Advice needed on Kam cdg setup

[pogjones]

Hello everyone
I have just purchased a am 1000 twin CDG player and a 1000 mixer. On connecting the video phono cable, there are two video out ports one for each of the two players. If i connect them up individualy they work fine, but if i connect them though a splitter the monitor is unwatchable. I am thinking that the splitter being a cheap one may be the problem. Can anyone advise on this.
Thanks Bill.

[Shaun]

Please take a moment to introduce yourself in the 'newbies' forum section.

[Danno13]

Just get one of these to switch the output -

http://cpc.farnell.com/SW02438/components-spares/product.us0?sku=APEM-641NH-2

You'll need to mount it on a blanking plate, then just wire both grounds from the CDG signal to the ground for the output to the TV and a core from each of the CDG players to each side of the switch, with the output going to the monitor.

[DazzyD]

Just get one of these to switch the output -

http://cpc.farnell.com/SW02438/components-spares/product.us0?sku=APEM-641NH-2

You'll need to mount it on a blanking plate, then just wire both grounds from the CDG signal to the ground for the output to the TV and a core from each of the CDG players to each side of the switch, with the output going to the monitor.

Wot he said!

Just wondering, Bill. Are you using this setup for pro karaoke? If so, what are you using for echo/reverb effects? The KAM 1000 is a decent budget mixer but, for another £50, maybe the 1500 would have been a better choice as it has onboard effects for the mics.

Just a thought.

[pogjones]

Just using the system at home, got it at a price i could not refuse but want to get it working correctly.

[DazzyD]

At the moment all of my systems use powered mixers (including StudioMaster) with on-board effects so I don't need to use separate echo units.

However, I've done a quick search and come up with this:http://www.images2.co.uk/cgi-bin/KA_550_2U_ECHO_CONTROL_and_KEY_CHANGE_MIXER_JF4254 50.html

It's a karaoke microphone mixer with on-board effects. What's more, it's made by KAM so it would work well with your mixer and players.

Personally, I quite like using VocoPro stuff and you could try this: http://www.discostudio.co.uk/item.php?upn=14081

Or even this: http://www.discostudio.co.uk/item.php?upn=14080

Or, for a little bit extra, this : http://www.ebdj.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?product_id=12141&affid=froogle

The other alternative is a mixer with onboard effects. Like I said earlier, the KAM 1500 fits the bill at under £190.

All these solutions can be used at home or on the road. Whichever you choose, good luck!

[pogjones]

Great now i know what i am looking at, and would go for the Kam product i think.
What i need to know next then is how this unit fits in to the system. The Kam site has some tutorials, but there does not appear to be a technical section for setting their products up along side each other. I have the Kam mixer and twin cd and a Kam wireless mic then if i buy this other unit it all needs marrying up to work together. Getting interesting now.

[DazzyD]

There are two ways you could include the KAM microphone mixer.

The first is the simplest. Simply connect your players to your mixer (as I assume they would already). Then take the line feed from the mic mixer and connect it to a spare channel on your KAM 1000. Plug your mic in to the mic mixer and use it's controls for echo, etc. and use the KAM 1000 to control the music volume and EQ's and also the overall master mix. That's the easy way.

The second way is to plug your mics and CDs in to the KAM mic mixer and control the mics and audio here. A single line feed then goes from the mic mixer to the KAM 1000 so you have EQ controls over the overall sound mix.

In both options the KAM 1000 would feed out to your amp and then the speakers (as you expect).

Of course, you could just plug everything in to the mic mixer and then straight to your amp bypassing the KAM 1000. That seems a waste of a decent budget mixer though.

Personally, I would use the first setup simply because I haven't used the mic mixer before and not sure how it would cope in mixing together multiple mic & audio channels. I'd simply use it for mic effects and then use the KAM 1000 for complete control over the mics & audio.

Apparently the mic mixer has 3 video inputs and 3 video outputs so if it performs well there are numerous possibilities there (karaoke, VJing, logos & splash screens, etc).

Hope this helps

[pogjones]

Thanks to all for all the info, i will now have a look at which way i will go with it all. No doubt i will be back shortly with some setup problems.