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DJWilson
31-10-2008, 12:40 PM
Hi,

i need an english power lead as back up incase my german one goes (us ea convertor at the moment)

on the plug it says: 16A 250V

and on the input that goes into the amp says: 10A 250V

im not sure which english lead i would need?

please help,

thanks.

Vectis
31-10-2008, 12:43 PM
Got a picture of the one you have?

I'm guessing you probably need one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-8m-IEC-C13-Mains-Power-Cable-Kettle-Lead_W0QQitemZ250300581710QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 250300581710&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318) but a pic will confirm.

DJWilson
31-10-2008, 12:48 PM
Yup,

DJWilson
31-10-2008, 12:49 PM
I mean like what V and Watt it needs to be, sorry if wasnt clear.

501damian501
31-10-2008, 01:11 PM
just an adaptor, i dont understand your post.

One Vision
31-10-2008, 01:13 PM
How come your using 16A surely you don't have any kit with that rating?

DJWilson
31-10-2008, 01:16 PM
How come your using 16A surely you don't have any kit with that rating?


My T.Amp 1400 from Thomann (Germany) I need an enlisgh lead incase that lead or the convertor goes on me.

501damian501
31-10-2008, 01:21 PM
the plug on the end looks like an iec plug which can be bought off ebay, then some wire and a plug, if you are not wise with wiring, ask a local sparky to do it for you.

just your normal 13amp will do the job.

here you go young lad

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-KETTLE-LEAD-HI-FI-LEAD-Mains-Power-lead-13amp-PLUG_W0QQitemZ130260606081QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 130260606081&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1121%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

Shakermaker Promotions
31-10-2008, 02:32 PM
the plug on the end looks like an iec plug which can be bought off ebay

But that's only if you can't wait for a decent one eh Damo!

501damian501
31-10-2008, 02:51 PM
thats right lol, power leads are basicly power leads in my eyes.

Jiggles
31-10-2008, 03:13 PM
the 16A will be the max that the plug and cable can take without going pop! You will be fine with a bog standard kettle plug.

Excalibur
31-10-2008, 06:16 PM
Unsurprisingly, Vectis is spot on. All standard kit, as long as the plug isn't fitted with a 3amp fuse you will be fine.

OllieJames
31-10-2008, 06:57 PM
thats right lol, power leads are basicly power leads in my eyes.

What else would they be? :D :p

A1DL
31-10-2008, 08:11 PM
16amp is like nearly 4,000watt, so why would sumthing 1400watt need a 16amp lead ?

The lead pictured is fitted with a European domestic Schuko connector, rated at 16a, as these unfused connectors are typically connected to radial circuits fused at 16a at the distribution board.


if thats the case, the amp will go pop before the fuse in the wire even thinks about popping

:confused: There is no fuse on a Schuko connector. The only fused plugtop I know of is the BS1363 UK d0m3stic type, and the BS1362 fuse used in conjunction with said plugtop has the wire in the fuse, not the other way round.

UK d0m3stic electrics are the safest in the world, as unfused radial circuits offer no local overload or fault condition protection.

A1DL
31-10-2008, 08:28 PM
thats right lol, power leads are basicly power leads in my eyes.


What else would they be? :D :p

An old rant of mine, unfortunately too many people believe just because it "connects and works" that it's safe. Which is why at events you find:

Visibly damaged cables & connectors
Exposed inner sheathing
Indoor d0m3stic connectors & cabling being used outdoors
Thin hot d0m3stic reels being used partly wound
Blissful ignorance of the basic maths required to determine current draw
Disregard for H&S implications regarding cable placement in public & vehicular areas
Lack of RCD protection
Unprotected stepdown jumpers
Bodged splitters, where the cable is one or two diams lower than IET specs for said connector/MCB
Cables that were last PAT'd 5+ years ago, if at all
etc
etc
etc...

ppentertainments
31-10-2008, 10:52 PM
Buy a black plug from B and Q, cut the euro plug off, fit new plug with correct fuse (sorry not sure which one). Job done.

One Vision
31-10-2008, 11:11 PM
With it being for an amp I would either put a UK plug on and making sure its got a 13amp fuse in or just get another black IEC cable that already has a UK plug fitted and a 13amp fuse.

501damian501
01-11-2008, 03:05 AM
The lead pictured is fitted with a European domestic Schuko connector, rated at 16a, as these unfused connectors are typically connected to radial circuits fused at 16a at the distribution board.



:confused: There is no fuse on a Schuko connector. The only fused plugtop I know of is the BS1363 UK d0m3stic type, and the BS1362 fuse used in conjunction with said plugtop has the wire in the fuse, not the other way round.

UK d0m3stic electrics are the safest in the world, as unfused radial circuits offer no local overload or fault condition protection.

you learn something new everyday, good job us english are on the ball :D

as reguards to events, ive seen afew damaged cables in my short time, and their solution for the problem is, just abit of sticky tape.. i say no more.

discomobiledj
01-11-2008, 09:40 AM
you learn something new everyday, good job us english are on the ball :D

as reguards to events, ive seen afew damaged cables in my short time, and their solution for the problem is, just abit of sticky tape.. i say no more.

It's a shame you can't spell anything in English!

501damian501
01-11-2008, 09:58 AM
yeah i know, thats because english is my sceond language :D

JAMdisco
03-11-2008, 10:44 AM
yeah i know, thats because english is my sceond language :D

So what's your first language - jibberish? :p ;) :D

501damian501
03-11-2008, 10:53 AM
romany, us pikeys are always open to negotiation, tone will tell you. :D :D :D :D :D :D , Whats the deal on the trailer ? :D :D

Cj_The_Dj
04-11-2008, 10:09 AM
you would be better off with a normal kettle lead. beacuse that one is not earthed. and it would be easyer and cheaper than having adaptors

sleah
04-11-2008, 11:52 AM
you would be better off with a normal kettle lead. beacuse that one is not earthed. and it would easyer and cheaper than adaptors

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Yikes! I just realised that fact.... of course most of these stoopid euro>UK adaptors, apart from falling apart easily usually don't connect the earth and if you have a class 1 appliance plugged it to it, which the amp quite possible is......
:eek: your PLI & PAT are both invalid!! :eek: **
But worse, you could kill yourself or someone else.

Really, anykind of 'travel' adaptor should not be used.
If you have any non-UK IEC leads either replace the plug or just throw it away and replace, or if it's a fixed lead, replace the plug.

** Why? Because you have what could be considered dangerous working practice and a euro lead with a plastic adaptor could never really pass a PAT test or be considered safe.

DazzyD
04-11-2008, 04:45 PM
As an IEC connector (commonly called a "Kettle lead") CJs suggestion of using a UK Kettle lead should do the job adequately, provided that it has the correct rating fuse for your equipment (which I'd expect to be 13A for UK domestic use). Yes, I know you are using it for commercial use but your equipment only requires a domestic-rated electricity supply as opposed to an industrial one.

However, if your equipment requires protection of less than 13A (5A for example) then you should use the correct fuse to avoid the risk shock should your equipment become faulty.