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Matty12
15-01-2011, 08:05 PM
Hi there

In the next year and a half I would like to buy some new speakers.

I was thinking HK or LD systems (speaker at top and bass at bottom) because there smaller and lighter so I can lifted them up.
I also like the foam grill at the front as well, but other speakers are ok as well.

Any advice would be nice

Thanks.

Matthew.

surround sounds
15-01-2011, 09:59 PM
Hi there

In the next year and a half I would like to buy some new speakers.

I was thinking HK or LD systems (speaker at top and bass at bottom) because there smaller and lighter so I can lifted them up.
I also like the foam grill at the front as well, but other speakers are ok as well.

Any advice would be nice

Thanks.

Matthew.
Year and a half? a lot can happen in that time. Also new speakers coming out all the time.

Matty12
15-01-2011, 10:07 PM
Yes I know that but I mite get some in the next couple of month.

surround sounds
15-01-2011, 10:17 PM
Yes I know that but I mite get some in the next couple of month.

Well i love rcf in that case

Shaun
15-01-2011, 10:26 PM
Yes I know that but I mite get some in the next couple of month.

Can you please use a spell checker on your posts. We've politely asked you on many occasions.

Matty12
15-01-2011, 10:50 PM
I'm sorry.

What did I spell wrong for next time.

yourdj
16-01-2011, 12:03 AM
I use an LD dave 12 inch sub and 10 inch RCF tops. They are 127 db so are pretty loud.

Great system but I would go HK tbh.

get mk 2 dave as its not made of mdf! HK much better but more expensive.
really quick set up and minimal floor space.

super-hero
16-01-2011, 12:05 AM
I use the LD range. I use the 8", 12" and 15" cabs, both active and passive, and they are great.

I haven't used any of their bass bins, but if they are as good as the other cabs, then you should be ok.

Shaun
16-01-2011, 12:06 AM
I'm sorry.

What did I spell wrong for next time.

Mite...I think you meant to say Might?

Unless of course you were referring to small anthropods? :p

Andy Goodtimes
16-01-2011, 08:03 AM
I have listened to the LD stuff in my local store and its not bad for the money. HK is pretty nice and IMO slightly better. For small top cabs I do like the RCF ART10A, most folk would say they are only really for back ground or using in multiples but I think they are easily as good as the SRM450s...if not better. You really need to get out and listen and see what suits you best.

Solitaire Events Ltd
16-01-2011, 12:15 PM
Hi there

In the next year and a half I would like to buy some new speakers.



Why?

Corabar Steve
16-01-2011, 12:39 PM
Yes I know that but I mite get some in the next couple of month.


Can you please use a spell checker on your posts. We've politely asked you on many occasions.
A spell checker might have worked, however there were no spelling mistakes in that post. An identical sounding word was transposed & a "S" was missed altogether, but nothing was spelled incorrectly. I think what is needed is more care in checking that what he wants to communicate is being communicated & not just something that sounds like it when it's spoken out loud.


Why?
Because he has more money than sense?

Because he wants to?

Because his current speakers are rubbish?

Because he only has full range & wants to run tops & subs?

Because he's a teenager & they are never happy with what they've got & always want something new?

All of the above?

None of the above?

Some of the above?

Because?

:sj:

The LD stuff certainly looks solid enough & seems well made. Unfortunately, I didn't think to ask to hear it when I saw some last year. Toby (YourDJ) has a set of the LD Dave system, he's probably the best person to ask about them. :sj:

Excalibur
16-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Because he's a teenager & they are never happy with what they've got & always want something new?


Errrr, Steve, it's not restricted solely to the young and foolish. ;) ;) :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

paulg
16-01-2011, 01:01 PM
I think what is needed is more care in checking that what he wants to communicate is being communicated & not just something that sounds like it when it's spoken out loud.:sj:

5/10 could do better. In fewer words: Please check for homophones.

come on you frustrated school teachers - Give the guy a break!

In answer to the thread, if you can, pick up a decent quality s/h HK1000 system. It is generally better than the Dave systems and better sounding than the newer HK Audio 3 box systems.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 01:03 PM
What are these speakers like.

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR247077

I'm not saying I'm going to buy them.

Corabar Steve
16-01-2011, 01:06 PM
come on you frustrated school teachers - Give the guy a break!.
So you'd sooner see a forum full of posts that you have to read several times before you can work out what the hell is being said????

Please leave the moderating to us.

soundtracker
16-01-2011, 01:07 PM
5/10 could do better. In fewer words: Please check for homophones.

come on you frustrated school teachers - Give the guy a break!

In answer to the thread, if you can, pick up a decent quality s/h HK1000 system. It is generally better than the Dave systems and better sounding than the newer HK Audio 3 box systems.

Yes, absolutely! Someone that is unable to spell "MIGHT", will obviously understand what is meant by a homophone!

Anyway,
:ontopic:

paulg
16-01-2011, 01:08 PM
What are these speakers like.

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR247077

I'm not saying I'm going to buy them.

Made by HK Audio, these are effectively a budget range. Very similar to the HK Audio 3 box systems except they do not have the on-board controllers and other gadgetry that make HK's systems so impressive. As far as I know, they have similar quality drivers / amps.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 01:15 PM
Are these better.

http://www.theaudioworksuk.com/index.php/hk-audio-lucas-1000-legacy-1000w-active-pa-system-used.html

Excalibur
16-01-2011, 01:22 PM
5/10 could do better. In fewer words: Please check for homophones.
I'm sure there's are jokes there, but I know I can't get away with them. ;)



come on you frustrated school teachers - Give the guy a break!
.


So you'd sooner see a forum full of posts that you have to read several times before you can work out what the hell is being said????

I'm with Steve on this, but that's not really a revelation. Some posts really do require a lot of work to be understandable. :(


What are these speakers like.

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR247077

I'm not saying I'm going to buy them.
They would suffer from the inherent design problem with a system like this: Everything is powered from in effect one amp in the sub. If it died, you would be able to use a spare amp on the tops, but that would leaave you with a rather thin sound, though still better than nothing.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Is there something like speaker and bass speaker and bass which are light to carry.

Roy James
16-01-2011, 01:30 PM
Hi all,
I bought a pair of the LD Stingers (15" Passive cabs) about 4 months ago, up until then I was useing the Mackie S215's which I thought sounded good, but the LD cabs out class them in sound quality. but thats just my opinion!

Matty12
16-01-2011, 01:30 PM
what about these (LD).


http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?ref=gbase&Track=LDDAVE12UK

paulg
16-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Is there something like speaker and bass speaker and bass which are light to carry.

No, not really unless you want to spend on things like the HK Audio Elements series or the Bose equivalent.

For small and compact, the HK 1000 is pretty good but, it has been said already that they suffer from an inherent design flaw. If the mains section inside the sub fails or the unit overheats (and shuts down) you are left with no sound at all. That, and the appalling after sales back up is why I got rid of my HK gear.

A pair of decent 15 inch speakers (powered or unpowered) would probably be your best bet. The passive (unpowered) LD ones mentioned do look very reasonable. For some reason the equivalent active (powered) ones deliver 30db less.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:12 PM
what about these

http://www.stagebeat.co.uk/product.php?product_id=3267


and


http://www.rattleanddrum.com/product/3651/hk-lucas-impact-pa-system-1200w-700w-sub-x2-250w-satalites

Solitaire Events Ltd
16-01-2011, 09:14 PM
Is there any point in just posting random links to speakers? You really need to get out and listen to a few suggested by our esteemed members.

Charlie Brown
16-01-2011, 09:15 PM
Is there any point in just posting random links to speakers? You really need to get out and listen to a few suggested by our esteemed members.

:lol:

He's right Matthew.

Did you like the sound of my Mackies?

They would probably be a good buy.

Nice and light for you to carry round etc.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:15 PM
would you go for active or passive.

Charlie Brown
16-01-2011, 09:16 PM
would you go for active or passive.

Active.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:17 PM
yes I did like the sound but are thay heavy to put on a stand.

Charlie Brown
16-01-2011, 09:20 PM
yes I did like the sound but are thay heavy to put on a stand.

Not really.

Your mum and you put together could do it no problem.

One of the lighter speakers out there...

Remember, active speakers are always going to be a bit heavier because they have the amp built in etc.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:23 PM
what did you think about the last link I made.

Charlie Brown
16-01-2011, 09:25 PM
I'm sure they will be fine dude but its very hard to comment without hearing them.

TBF - I ordered my mackies without giving them a test.

Solitaire Events Ltd
16-01-2011, 09:26 PM
I repeat...


Is there any point in just posting random links to speakers? You really need to get out and listen to a few suggested by our esteemed members.

Excalibur
16-01-2011, 09:28 PM
Is there any point in just posting random links to speakers? You really need to get out and listen to a few suggested by our esteemed members.

And possibly some suggested by us :muppet:s. :D :D :D :D


Honestly, it's no good buying any speakers without hearing them first, whether they be £30 Skytec, or £3000 RCF. Sound is subjective. A couple of members on here rate Peavey very highly. A few hate them vigorously. Same with Mackie 450 V1. Which camp would you be in? You wouldn't know, without hearing them.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:29 PM
would thay be loud enough 1000w and 1200w

Charlie Brown
16-01-2011, 09:30 PM
would thay be loud enough 1000w and 1200w

Matthew,

Stop posting and read what Darren said.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:33 PM
ok I'm sorry but would they?

what types are yours / modle?

Corabar Steve
16-01-2011, 09:33 PM
would thay be loud enough 1000w and 1200w
Depends on their efficiency

Corabar Steve
16-01-2011, 09:34 PM
ok I'm sorry but would thay?

what types are yours / modle?
Spel checher :sj:

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:37 PM
Sorry.

Charlie Brown
16-01-2011, 09:38 PM
Sorry.

When you have the cash ready - ask mum to take you too a disco shop so you can compare and listen. :)

Matty12
16-01-2011, 09:40 PM
what types are yours / modle?

:)

Charlie Brown
16-01-2011, 09:46 PM
:)

model. ;)

Mackie SRM 450 V2.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mackie-SRM450v2-active-PA-speaker-black-Ex-Display-/310274540469?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item483dcdc3b5#ht_10053wt_1139

Excalibur
16-01-2011, 10:12 PM
Remember, active speakers are always going to be a bit heavier because they have the amp built in etc.
Errrrrrrr, no Charlie. You had a pair of CD15SP's once, didn't you? Are they lighter than your Mackies? I think not. ;)


Depends on their efficiency

Absolutely. You can't hear watts. ;) :D

yourdj
16-01-2011, 10:13 PM
Toby (YourDJ) has a set of the LD Dave system, he's probably the best person to ask about them. :sj:

i would recommend the Dave for price but the HK for quality. both great. For you I would recommend the Dave for now.
The old version of the dave I have is not very well made so get the latest ply wood one. G2 VERSION.

My one has chunks out of it and rattles if not kept on its side. sound brilliant though.
I do think the case underneath amplifies the bass :confused:


I do like the RCF ART10A, You really need to get out and listen and see what suits you best.

The LD 12 inch dave sub with Art 10 passives and they sound brilliant!
I have a spare amp in the van (as your relying on one amp - if that goes your screwed) but am looking at getting a second LD dave system so I do not have to rag the current one.

The best thing is the lack of gear. i am always getting venue managers saying "OH is that it that looks neat".

the speakers are off in each of the rooms corners facing the dance floor:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_044PTfUkGaA/TQqySq1HtEI/AAAAAAAAC2g/rPAlfHExUvk/s1600/IMG_2237.jpg


the HK 1000 is pretty good but, it has been said already that they suffer from an inherent design flaw. If the mains section inside the sub fails or the unit overheats (and shuts down) .

i bought one off ebay that had this problem - no volume.
The bloke sold it a month later under a different name.


would thay be loud enough 1000w and 1200w

Makes no difference. Loudness is measures in DB.

I am running my 300 watt RCF (127db) tops off 4 ohm 100 watt LD outputs and they sound great.

Matty12
16-01-2011, 11:09 PM
Thanks

Matty12
17-01-2011, 11:35 AM
Right then this is it.

It’s between Mackie and LD both active which one’s would you go for?

LD

http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/LD-Systems-DAVE-15G2-Portable-Active-PA-System/EPA


http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/LD-Systems-DAVE-12G2-Portable-Active-PA-System/EP9

Mackie


http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Mackie-SRM450-V2-Active-PA-Speaker-each/8PP

which one would you choose?

Thanks.:D :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
17-01-2011, 11:37 AM
You obviously aren't listening to a word anyone is saying, so I am closing this thread.

Go and listen to a few cabs and then report back.