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Jiggles

19-10-2006, 07:55 PM

Ricesnaps

19-10-2006, 08:15 PM

Sapphire Disco

19-10-2006, 08:24 PM

Why don't you just buy one , for about £140.00 you save all that time, you get a control box ,Carry case and you know it's going to look professional and work.

soundlad

19-10-2006, 08:26 PM

callum, you will need a resistor in the led circuit to reduce the voltage for the leds so they don't blow up!!

390r resistor would be fine. I will mail you the diagram!

alexperrins

19-10-2006, 08:32 PM

Might as well get xmas lights if your going to make it, would that work if you had small bulbs? Just twist the wires around and cover both sides, maybe make some kind of holders? I'd be interested to know! I'd be wary about the fire hazard with red hot bulbs :)

Maybe not then...LOL

Jiggles

19-10-2006, 08:42 PM

Can an electrical buff please tell me how this works???

Danno13

19-10-2006, 08:50 PM

Just make it and see if it works!

You might not even need that 555 chip, not really sure what its doing..

Jiggles

19-10-2006, 08:58 PM

Right these should do i hope http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=6418&criteria=%20leds&doy=19m10

alexperrins

19-10-2006, 09:07 PM

Can I just say....you are mad! Though I would be very interested to know if it works and I applaud you for trying!

Jiggles

19-10-2006, 09:22 PM

Can I just say....you are mad! Though I would be very interested to know if it works and I applaud you for trying!

The cloth or the controler :teeth:

Jiggles

19-10-2006, 09:50 PM

Even better http://www.spelektroniikka.fi/kuvat/valojono.pdf

Corabar Entertainment

19-10-2006, 10:19 PM

I should imagine that something with ENGLISH instructions might suit you better! :omg:

Dragonfly

19-10-2006, 10:21 PM

can anyone smell burning lolol

Jiggles

19-10-2006, 10:35 PM

I should imagine that something with ENGLISH instructions might suit you better! :omg:

Its in an international language Ang :teeth:

Jiggles

19-10-2006, 10:37 PM

can anyone smell burning lolol

I haven't started yet and you'll soon know if its went wrong the east coast of Scotland will have been blown away :teeth:

Dragonfly

19-10-2006, 10:39 PM

anyone know where callum can get dmx water canons lol

Jiggles

19-10-2006, 10:41 PM

Yes where can i get them lol

Have a disco

19-10-2006, 11:17 PM

contact these guys they are the best and have the most uptodate cloths

www.starcloth.co.uk

Solitaire Events Ltd

19-10-2006, 11:20 PM

contact these guys they are the best and have the most uptodate cloths

www.starcloth.co.uk

You really think that Callum could afford £700 for a starcloth? :omg:

(bangs head against the wall) :teeth:

Corabar Steve

19-10-2006, 11:20 PM

contact these guys they are the best and have the most uptodate cloths

www.starcloth.co.uk
Angela got a mug off them at PLASA :) :cup:

Solitaire Events Ltd

19-10-2006, 11:21 PM

Angela stole a mug off them at PLASA :) :cup:

:teeth: :teeth: :omg: :teeth:

Corabar Entertainment

19-10-2006, 11:25 PM

Oi, Darren! :mad: :) :mad: :) :mad: :) ....stop casting aspersions on my character or I'll sue you for defamation! :omg: :omg: :omg: :teeth:

DMX Will

19-10-2006, 11:36 PM

Callum,

Your project is easily done, even if you want to DMX your own cloth....it's easy (providing you know what your doing :teeth:)!

may I suggest you don't buy from Maplin, buy from Rapid (www.rapidelectronics.co.uk). They have much cheaper prices, and offer same day desptach (if ordered before 8pm) as standard.

I also suggest you use white LEDs, red/green/yellow will look crap :teeth: and blue are probably a bit too expensive.

As soundlad said, your going to need a ressistor (either on each LED, or on sets of LEDs) to stop them blowing up. I use 390Ohm ressistors when working with LEDs (my car is kitted out with over 75 of them).

If you then want to DMX sections of them, you should look at this (http://www.hoelscher-hi.de/hendrik/english/led.htm) and buy all the bits, and attempt to make the whole thing DMX.

Answer me this question: Which leg on the LED is the positive leg, and how do you know this?

If you can't answer that without looking it up, give up - go and buy one.

Dragonfly

19-10-2006, 11:42 PM

Angela got a mug off them at PLASA :) :cup:

did it come with a controller ??

Corabar Entertainment

19-10-2006, 11:48 PM

Angela got a mug off them at PLASA :) :cup:did it come with a controller ??Whadaya mean?!?!?!?!...... I AM the controller! :teeth: (...of the mug anyway :teeth: :teeth:)

Corabar Steve

19-10-2006, 11:49 PM

did it come with a controller ??
No, shes already got me :teeth:

Dragonfly

19-10-2006, 11:51 PM

Whadaya mean?!?!?!?!...... I AM the controller! :teeth: (...of the mug anyway :teeth: :teeth:)

now angela i dont think thats a very nice thing to say about steve do you??? :teeth: :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:

Corabar Entertainment

19-10-2006, 11:52 PM

now angela i dont think thats a very nice thing to say about steve do you??? :teeth: :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:Thank you!.... I deliberately left that one open in the hope that someone would take it up!!! :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:

Corabar Steve

19-10-2006, 11:52 PM

now angela i dont think thats a very nice thing to say about steve do you??? :teeth: :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:
You have to be a mug to work for my boss :teeth:

Solitaire Events Ltd

19-10-2006, 11:53 PM

(my car is kitted out with over 75 of them).

Why?

Dragonfly

19-10-2006, 11:53 PM

You have to be a mug to work for my boss :teeth:
steve its october and the shed will be cold lol

Dragonfly

19-10-2006, 11:55 PM

Why?

because its coooooool well derrr !!!! hes just a true pro incase his headlights fail hes got back up lol

Solitaire Events Ltd

19-10-2006, 11:56 PM

because its coooooool

Is it?

I'm just trying to imagine it - got a picture Will?

Dragonfly

20-10-2006, 12:00 AM

Is it?

I'm just trying to imagine it - got a picture Will?

it is until some bobby pulls you over and tells you to take them off as apparently you cant have blue lights on your car unless youre an emergency vehicle ........ apparently so i was told :embarasse

Corabar Steve

20-10-2006, 12:00 AM

Just in from Scotland.....

Dragonfly

20-10-2006, 12:02 AM

steve isnt it a little late for you to have the paints out??? lol

Dragonfly

20-10-2006, 12:08 AM

callums new lightshow really sets the dancefloor alight lol

http://www.biblehelp.org/images/burning%20house.jpg

in all fainess fair play to you mate for having a go your self technically im hopeless got my new lights other day from thomman with 2 pin plugs on ....all i had to do was chop the 2 pin off and swap it for a 3 pin ........ when i finished ...... 3 pin one end , 2 pin the other ..... i chopped the wrong end off!

Corabar Entertainment

20-10-2006, 12:23 AM

....got my new lights other day from thomman with 2 pin plugs on ....all i had to do was chop the 2 pin off and swap it for a 3 pin ........ when i finished ...... 3 pin one end , 2 pin the other ..... i chopped the wrong end off!ROFAPMSL!!!!!! :omg: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

spin mobile disco

20-10-2006, 02:30 AM

To answer the question earlier about what the 555 chip is doing. The 555 ic chip is the timer chip used to make led's flash (it is used in lots of things a very veratile chip) the whol curcuit is just a flasher unit and the output doesnt look hig henough for a whole starcloth.

Have a disco

20-10-2006, 07:44 AM

You really think that Callum could afford £700 for a starcloth? :omg:

(bangs head against the wall) :teeth:

thats the top range price then, the lesser ranges are cheaper than this I was quoted about £199 vat inc for something that would hang below a 4ft windup frame system

Solitaire Events Ltd

20-10-2006, 09:26 AM

thats the top range price then, the lesser ranges are cheaper than this I was quoted about £199 vat inc for something that would hang below a 4ft windup frame system

Can you find that quote, as I'd be very interested in that.

Did it come with transformer etc?

Dragonfly

20-10-2006, 09:29 AM

Can you find that quote, as I'd be very interested in that.

Did it come with transformer etc?

yes optimus prime.

Have a disco

20-10-2006, 10:12 AM

quote has been passed onto interested party will try to get it back or a copy and not sure if with transformers do do do do do sorry got me going now

Corabar Entertainment

20-10-2006, 12:07 PM

I would be very interested in seeing that quote as well, Badger: so do you best to get hold of it! Ta! :) :)

Solitaire Events Ltd

20-10-2006, 12:11 PM

quote has been passed onto interested party will try to get it back or a copy and not sure if with transformers do do do do do sorry got me going now

How would it work without a transformer though?

Corabar Steve

20-10-2006, 03:27 PM

thats the top range price then, the lesser ranges are cheaper than this I was quoted about £199 vat inc for something that would hang below a 4ft windup frame systemWhat, from S&H?

Have a disco

20-10-2006, 03:30 PM

I know was shocked myself but I took it and passed it onto the person looking for one in my local area will have to see how much further he got

Jiggles

20-10-2006, 03:31 PM

Callum,

Your project is easily done, even if you want to DMX your own cloth....it's easy (providing you know what your doing :teeth:)!

may I suggest you don't buy from Maplin, buy from Rapid (www.rapidelectronics.co.uk) (http://www.rapidelectronics.co.uk%29). They have much cheaper prices, and offer same day desptach (if ordered before 8pm) as standard.

I also suggest you use white LEDs, red/green/yellow will look crap :teeth: and blue are probably a bit too expensive.

As soundlad said, your going to need a ressistor (either on each LED, or on sets of LEDs) to stop them blowing up. I use 390Ohm ressistors when working with LEDs (my car is kitted out with over 75 of them).

If you then want to DMX sections of them, you should look at this (http://www.hoelscher-hi.de/hendrik/english/led.htm) and buy all the bits, and attempt to make the whole thing DMX.

Answer me this question: Which leg on the LED is the positive leg, and how do you know this?

If you can't answer that without looking it up, give up - go and buy one.

Iv been on to the rapid website before and its good. :teeth:

And it looks like ill need tot etch a PBC board (looks like illbe seeing be chemistry teacher as well) :teeth:

Corabar Steve

20-10-2006, 03:58 PM

for something that would hang below a 4ft windup frame system& why would you need a wind up stand if it was only 4ft? :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:

Thames Valley Discos

20-10-2006, 08:16 PM

& why would you need a wind up stand if it was only 4ft? :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:
Cos he,s only 3ft 2" :teeth:

soundlad

20-10-2006, 08:27 PM

Can an electrical buff please tell me how this works???
Basically callum you need to buy the 555 timer (micro chip) The output from the 555 is two little to power a buzzer etc... so you need wats called a transistor. It turns the current on at the base of it a 0.4v (it comes from pin 3 out of the 555. so you will need to put 120 leds along the 12v track and the - pin on the Leds needs to go into the 'emmitor' pin on the transistor. the the 3rd pin goes to 0v (collector) All the 555 circuit does is makes a currnt pulse. To change the speed of the pulse you need to chenge the value of the resistor. either a bigger value to slow the pulse down or smaller to speed it up.

hope this helps you!

soundlad

20-10-2006, 08:40 PM

looking at that circuit it looks like the wrong one sorry! i will give you the propper one!

Jiggles

20-10-2006, 08:53 PM

Will, that circut diagram is great and the website is good to, But i cant find the parts on it :teeth:

Ricesnaps

20-10-2006, 09:31 PM

This is bringing back some teenage nightmares - although I quite expect no notice to be taken of this whatsoever, I will tell the tale...

14 years old, just started putting together disco gear. Bought a sound to light kit from Maplin (well I was 14). Soldered up and placed in a fresh washed up ice cream box. Disco went well for the first 10 mins, then there was a flash, poping noise and a plume of smoke - and obviously no more flashing lights!

I have read this thread with interest. Home made is fine, but home electronics for a professional show, soldering iron and all, is more than crazy - here speaks one with experiance!

Shaun

20-10-2006, 09:37 PM

I have read this thread with interest. Home made is fine, but home electronics for a professional show, soldering iron and all, is more than crazy - here speaks one with experiance!

I couldn't agree more. :thumbs_up

Home electronics can be downright dangerous unless you know what you're doing.

Jiggles

20-10-2006, 10:10 PM

I couldn't agree more. :thumbs_up

Home electronics can be downright dangerous unless you know what you're doing.

It will be, i'm gonna get it checked by a electrician

spin mobile disco

21-10-2006, 02:34 AM

Advantage of low current stuff like this, is it it relatively harmless even if you made a mistake. 600ma not likely to cause much more than a small spark. But be aware that low voltage transformers dont have fuses to check continuity on your curcuit with a mutimeter before connecting.

Corabar Steve

21-10-2006, 02:38 AM

You only need a small spark to start a big fire

Dragonfly

21-10-2006, 08:29 AM

would seriously think callum .....really mate i do think its superb that you want to make this and do it yourself i certainly couldnt do it technically im a get a qualified chap or chapess to do it and pay a bit more .....just be sure that the desire to acomplish something and see it through doesnt compramise the quality of your show and more importantly the health and safety of you and your guests ..... i hope you know me well enough to know i dont mean this in a condesending way at all.... my website is my own work ... yes with guidance on the technical bits and no its not wonderful a* grade but ....ive done it. that said its not going to cause a disco inferno :teeth:

Shaun

21-10-2006, 09:35 AM

It will be, i'm gonna get it checked by a electrician

If you're going to have an electrition check it, why not just have the electrition do the work?

Jiggles

21-10-2006, 09:38 AM

If you're going to have an electrition check it, why not just have the electrition do the work?

I cant iv been trying to get him to do my PAT for over 2 mounths now :mad: if cant get him for that well he wont be able to build it for me ether!!!

Shaun

21-10-2006, 10:04 AM

If you can't get a hold of him to build it or to do your PAT....how are you going to get a hold of him to check your electronics work? :p

Jiggles

27-10-2006, 06:41 PM

Right an update iv got the 100 leds and i have started to solder them together. i am short on some parts for my controller for them iv tried Maplin and Rapid Electronics with limited success. so if anyone knows of anywhere i can get parts for this: http://www.instructables.com/id/E1Y29NTAC8EPLK0F0Z/ then that will be helpful :teeth:

I have the following parts all ready:
1 - Timer 555 8 pin IC
1 - 2N3053 NPN general purpose amplifier

20 - red LEDs
20 - blue LEDs
1 - LED

Oh ye last night i accidentally picked up the WRONG end of the soldering iron (ouch) so i now have a large blister on my thumb!!

Jiggles

27-10-2006, 08:37 PM

More updates:

Got 10 sets of leds (5 in each set) 10 more to go!!! :D

OH NO the :teeth: smilys gone :eek:

Corabar Steve

31-10-2006, 08:22 PM

Any more news Callum?

How's the hand?

Jiggles

31-10-2006, 08:32 PM

Im still missing some of the parts :(
my tumbs fine :D
and the black cloth im using is the stuff you use under gravel:eek:

Corabar Steve

31-10-2006, 09:06 PM

Just a though, is it fire proof / flame retardant?

Jiggles

31-10-2006, 09:09 PM

Just a though, is it fire proof / flame retardant?

Yes it is i though of that when i was think what i can use i tested it soo it all ok :D

future

14-11-2006, 09:04 PM

Right im going to start to make my own star cloth next week (hopefully :teeth:). Iv been on to maplis for some LEDs and there is so many i dont know what ones to get. Im going to need 120 LEDs and i have a 12v/ 500mA 6VA (max) Transformer to run them any ideas on what one i sould get?!

Callum

I have just bought a Starcloth on Ebay for £75.00 + £5.00 postage works really well comes with controller with settings: sound to light, fade, All on and comes with carry bag, includes Velcro for attaching to stand...what more can you ask for.

Solitaire Events Ltd

14-11-2006, 09:05 PM

I have just bought a Starcloth on Ebay for £75.00 + £5.00 postage works really well comes with controller with settings: sound to light, fade, All on and comes with carry bag, includes Velcro for attaching to stand...what more can you ask for.

Is it DMX by any chance?

Jiggles

14-11-2006, 09:05 PM