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Nakatomi
15-10-2015, 12:56 AM
Okay, I admit it. My penny pinching ways, timing & other factors have resulted in me adding a pair of Alto TS115A speakers to my collection. They're for backup, and for playing a smaller room in my residency. "They'll do til I can afford better". I'd been to hear the Proel V15As recently & thought the Altos sounded about the same - albeit for less money. The TS115 speakers I'd heard once before at a gig somebody I know was walking in at.

So, what are they like? Well, for £400 a pair including (a little shonky) stands from Gear4Music.com they're easily the best sounding speakers I've ever owned.

I took them for a test drive at a wedding tonight (Mackies were in the car juuust incase) and can honestly say compared to the SRM450s I barely had to touch the EQ tonight no matter what I played. With the Mackies I'm always having to tweak the mid & top to stop them being ear-bleedingly awful. Lulu - Shout? Forget it on the older speakers of mine. Motown like 'You Can't Hurry love' ? Crank the mid & top to quarter to, then a little more with my other speakers. Beyonce's 'Single Ladies' ? Careful of hitting the SRM450's excursion on that one fella even with the bass 'flat'. No such qualms with the Altos tonight. Everything I played into them sounded much more natural than I'm used to and as I already said I barely even had to touch the EQ all night.

At low to mid volumes they sound pretty good, but things seem to fall apart when they're pushed (cheap speaker syndrome I suppose) - no more than the you-know-whats though. But at high volume, they still sound pretty good. The 15" woofer delivers plenty of punchy bass, which seems tight & controlled. Midrange & top from the 1" compression driver is restrained & pretty well balanced. I didn't need to put the mixer's EQ in a smiley face curve - they sounded just fine nigh as damn it flat. The mid control was brought down to around 5 to, maybe closer to 12 o clock.

I played a variety of stuff through them tonight, but where they really shone was current music & reggae (!). Yes I said reggae. Toots & The Maytals 'Monkey Man' has a very fine bassline, and these speakers cope with it just fine. No rattles, no buzzes, no thumps.... just astonishing low end, controlled mid & crisp highs. Bob Marley's 'Three Little Birds' was a good test too.. I actually had to wind the bass down for that one, just because there was so much of it. It seemed there were no nasty peaks in the bottom end where one bass note sticks out like a sore thumb. Britney & Will.I.Am's 'Scream and shout'... last time I heard that played it was at BPM coming out of a big KV2 rig. No comparison, but you couldn't half feel a pounding from the Altos.

Sadly these Altos are another case of stupid input configuration - where (great!) you get no less than two XLR/Jack combi sockets - but each has its own volume control which up to 12 o clock gets you line level sensitivity, and past that it goes into mic territory. There's a master volume control for the speaker after those two, and you can output a mix of both inputs (or not) on the extra output, which is going to be a nifty feature for somebody.

The 'contour' switch engages a 'smiley face' 'loudness boost' EQ curve to the output which might be a help at low volumes but will only make the bass far less controlled at high volumes & likely to tickle the speaker's inbuilt limiter.

Did I mention these things have a built-in media player too? Well they do.. plug in a USB stick or microSD card full of music & away you go.

They seem pretty well built, although the front grille has a tendency to ring if you strike it - something I was worried would translate into nasty resonances in the output but I didn't notice any such problems in my testing.

For £400 a pair I very much doubt you're ever going to find a better speaker than these. They're loud, light, and very very punchy. Reliable? Time will tell. The limit LED comes on way before the Mackies in terms of input level, but by that point the Altos are belting it out way louder than the SRM450s could & they're not fatiguing at all.

You'll likely need to keep an eye on the fan during their life though. At the end of the night, after running at almost full pelt most of the time the amp module on the back was barely even warm - but if the speed controlled fan ever conks out I wouldn't given them long.

So happy am I with these speakers I'm now seriously considering leaving the Mackies at home from now on. The Altos are way lighter, better looking IMHO (apart from the label on the front.. gah) but best of all I hardly had to touch the EQ on tracks all night. Hell, even Mr Brightside sounded quite palatable! :O

Excalibur
15-10-2015, 06:51 AM
Glad to hear you're happy. Surprised to see you've got the media player models. There's a pair near me on Ebay, and I might have had a look, if I hadn't got the Proels first. £250 and no bids yet.

Nakatomi
15-10-2015, 10:03 AM
These are definitely a good starter speaker & I can't emphasise enough how good they sound for the money. Now whether a speaker costing twice as much would sound twice as good, I'm dying to find out. At least going this way I wasn't wasting money & now I have a chance to save & consider a proper upgrade at a more leisurely pace..

I'm going to get myself to every speaker demo I can in the meantime

Casual77
15-10-2015, 10:38 AM
Nice review!

I really need to get you to audition my speakers sometime because from where I stand behind the speakers the best review I could give is that they sound 'OK' or 'not that great'. It probably doesn't help that my ears have been damaged by many years of loud music abuse.

Nakatomi
16-10-2015, 07:55 AM
Yamaha are still on my 'to hear' list. Somebody I know says to avoid them - there's too much on the back apparently. I think he means that a clueless DJ could easily 'do it wrong'. He has a point but I wouldn't put anybody like that in charge of my gear.

Excalibur
16-10-2015, 07:33 PM
Yamaha are still on my 'to hear' list. Somebody I know says to avoid them - there's too much on the back apparently. .
From my experience, he's in a minority of one. Anyone who gives a seven year warranty must be confident they will last.

Nakatomi
16-10-2015, 08:47 PM
From my experience, he's in a minority of one. Anyone who gives a seven year warranty must be confident they will last.

Peter, to give you an idea how much weight that man's opinion carries with me, he's the guy who put THAT rig in for the 18th I did a while back ;)

I know whose opinion I value.

djdj
17-10-2015, 01:37 PM
Peter, to give you an idea how much weight that man's opinion carries with me, he's the guy who put THAT rig in for the 18th I did a while back ;)

I know whose opinion I value.

LOVE mine! the wooden 12's are one of the best speakers I have ever heard! the plastic 15"s are fab!!

Excalibur
17-10-2015, 03:06 PM
LOVE mine! the wooden 12's are one of the best speakers I have ever heard! the plastic 15"s are fab!!

Much as I thought at Coalville. In a perfect world though, I'd have wooden fifteens and plastic twelves. ( Says the man who owns wooden twelves and plastic fifteens. :o:o:o ) Fifteens on their own, twelves over subs.

There are some absolutely stunning wooden twelves about at the moment. To list three I have experience of, I heard Dave's Yamahas at Coalville, I have my beloved LDs, and Andy ( Deltic ) has some even better HKs. It's actually amazing what these type of cabs can deliver in a large venue.

Nakatomi
17-10-2015, 03:16 PM
I'd consider wooden cabs, if only because I'm now so used to lugging the mackies around & throwing them up on stands. When I first started out last year (12 months to the day tomorrow!) it was a struggle, but now I just grab em off the floor, carry em to the pole & hoik em up. Usually find the hole first time too. Ahem

ppentertainments
17-10-2015, 03:26 PM
So would you definitely prefer the altos over mackie ?

I love my mackies (with a fan attached to the back) but they weigh a tonne.

Nakatomi
17-10-2015, 04:15 PM
So would you definitely prefer the altos over mackie ?

I love my mackies (with a fan attached to the back) but they weigh a tonne.

In terms of overall sound, yes. In terms of weight - the altos are lighter than the Mackies - but then I'm used to their weight now. In terms of build quality & longevity... nah. I know my Mackies are ancient, but I seriously doubt the Altos will hold their looks for as long.

I bought them to see me through having to run 2 rigs over the Christmas period at the lowest possible cost. I had my eye on a serious upgrade (buying cheap & wrong is always a false economy) but I thought better of rushing into anything before I've auditioned everything I can. Plus, there'll likely be a lot more decent 2nd hand gear around in the new year I expect. Up here there's loads of junk crap PA going for way more than it's worth. Where are all the people selling Yamaha, EV & RCF right now? Wayyyyyy daaaaahn saaaaaaaaaaaarf :(

mrrawuk
01-01-2016, 02:35 AM
The Alto's do seem good for the price. :)

Excalibur
01-01-2016, 11:08 AM
The Alto's do seem good for the price. :)
They are. A small increase in budget though, can result in much better cabs.

mrrawuk
01-01-2016, 02:55 PM
They are. A small increase in budget though, can result in much better cabs.

Such as?? :)

Nakatomi
01-01-2016, 03:57 PM
It'll depend on your definition of 'small' really. I picked up my Altos for £400 the pair, new with stands. Add about £60 for padded covers & you're away.

Next up from the TS115A I think would be the Proel V15A which you can pick up for £250 each ex-demo (e.g. at www.djanddiscostuff.com) . £50 per speaker dearer than the Alto (£400 inc stands at gear4music).

The USB media player in my Altos has already come in handy, for background music duty at my residency's murder mystery nights. Easy to control & saves me having to turn up with my laptop hours before I'm actually needed (usually 3+ hours).

Having used them for a while, I still think they sound nicer than my Mackie SRM450s BUT... they were really only ever a stopgap speaker for me. A few outfits use them as main PA but I'm really after a fuller, punchier sound... and that means phase 2 of my PA buying should come into play soon. New tops, and at least one bin.

I plan to sell the Mackies (which will no doubt pay for the Altos) & keep the Altos as backup for my 'real' PA when I get it.

mrrawuk
01-01-2016, 04:44 PM
It'll depend on your definition of 'small' really. I picked up my Altos for £400 the pair, new with stands. Add about £60 for padded covers & you're away.

Next up from the TS115A I think would be the Proel V15A which you can pick up for £250 each ex-demo (e.g. at www.djanddiscostuff.com) . £50 per speaker dearer than the Alto (£400 inc stands at gear4music).

The USB media player in my Altos has already come in handy, for background music duty at my residency's murder mystery nights. Easy to control & saves me having to turn up with my laptop hours before I'm actually needed (usually 3+ hours).

Having used them for a while, I still think they sound nicer than my Mackie SRM450s BUT... they were really only ever a stopgap speaker for me. A few outfits use them as main PA but I'm really after a fuller, punchier sound... and that means phase 2 of my PA buying should come into play soon. New tops, and at least one bin.

I plan to sell the Mackies (which will no doubt pay for the Altos) & keep the Altos as backup for my 'real' PA when I get it.

Altos seem to fit what i need but so many reports of poor reliability it's quite alarming and making me lean towards going for a Yamaha 12's speaker.

Nakatomi
27-01-2016, 06:32 AM
Altos seem to fit what i need but so many reports of poor reliability it's quite alarming and making me lean towards going for a Yamaha 12's speaker.
I think a lot of the altos reputation is founded upon people not knowing what they're doing. Drive any speaker with a built in limiter too hard for too long and it'll go 'foop'.

mrrawuk
27-01-2016, 09:40 AM
I think a lot of the altos reputation is founded upon people not knowing what they're doing. Drive any speaker with a built in limiter too hard for too long and it'll go 'foop'.

I almost bought a set but went for FBS j12's in the end.