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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitaire Entertainments Ltd View Post
    I'll let Tony explain.
    I wish somebody would.
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    Ok.....what I was saying is that for Powered(active) speakers that already have a crossover fitted an LMS is of limited use, the protection, delay and compression features would be useful.

    In a set-up like this where the frequencies are split by the electronics in the powered(active) speakers the LMS would not be used to it's full potential.

    One of the features I find most useful using an LMS is the ability to use filters as steep or as shallow as I need, My high-pass 32hz on my subs is a 48db Butterworth to give maximum protection, whereas the kick-bass to lo-mid filter is a 24db L-Riley to give a flat response at the x-over frequency.....this feature could not be used if using an LMS with the Powered(active) speakers as described above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Scott View Post
    Not sure what Tom uses, I meant actives with built in electronic x-overs etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
    Now I'm baffled. Tom uses actives, and says it's great. Tony says it's not good for actives.
    I do use active speakers, Mackie and DB but in time will have a passive sub/s when I can source a small, powerful switching amp, possibly 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Scott View Post
    Ok.....what I was saying is that for Powered(active) speakers that already have a crossover fitted an LMS is of limited use, the protection, delay and compression features would be useful.

    In a set-up like this where the frequencies are split by the electronics in the powered(active) speakers the LMS would not be used to it's full potential.

    One of the features I find most useful using an LMS is the ability to use filters as steep or as shallow as I need, My high-pass 32hz on my subs is a 48db Butterworth to give maximum protection, whereas the kick-bass to lo-mid filter is a 24db L-Riley to give a flat response at the x-over frequency.....this feature could not be used if using an LMS with the Powered(active) speakers as described above.
    The reason why I bought the LMS because of what it packs in such a small unit. I need a full 31 band eq and limiters which is what LMS has. Great I thought.

    These are the features on the unit:

    1) Gain
    2) EQ's
    3) Dynamic EQ
    4) Crossover
    5) Limiter
    6) Polarity/Phase
    7) Short/Long Delays

    Now for most DJ's, you would not need most of these features but some of these are quite useful.

    Now after trying the onboard crossover build in the sub and trying the LMS, the LMS wins hands down on quality. You can pick any crossover point you wish on the LMS which is a lot better than the 80hz, 100hz and 120hz you have on the DB sub 15. I have the sub crossed at 110hz and can go down to 35hz.

    I find this LMS much better than having to spend loads on other outboard equipment. Some of you may say that DJ's won't need this kind of processing but if you already use an EQ and also have some kind of compressor or even more outboard equipment, then wny not get a LMS. It has more features and also takes up less space and also less weight, hence the reason why I bought It.

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    Thanks for that lads. I think I understood some of it. I'm still playing with a rig I've begun to use a lot more. It's an active x-over, two amps, two subs. One bonus I found is that you can have the gains on the x-over set low, so numpties can't set all the red lights blazing. One of these days, I'll have a concerted play with it so I can get more out of it,but I'd recommend one as the minimum requirement if you have subs and tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    These are the features on the unit:

    1) Gain
    2) EQ's
    3) Dynamic EQ
    4) Crossover
    5) Limiter
    6) Polarity/Phase
    7) Short/Long Delays

    Now for most DJ's, you would not need most of these features but some of these are quite useful.

    ...........if you already use an EQ and also have some kind of compressor or even more outboard equipment, then wny not get a LMS.

    It has more features and also takes up less space and also less weight, hence the reason why I bought It.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Scott View Post
    Top bit of kit, hours of fun if your that way inclined!
    Spent 4 hours yesterday playing around with it.

    Just need to get a RS-232 cable so I can connect it to the pc. I didnt even look at the manual to work it out. Really easy to work with.

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    Tom, this post may be of interest on the 2496

    http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/fo....asp?TID=21794

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    Quote Originally Posted by A1DL View Post
    Tom, this post may be of interest on the 2496

    http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/fo....asp?TID=21794

    I saw this thread last week, got to say my 2 have been trouble free!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A1DL View Post
    Tom, this post may be of interest on the 2496

    http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/fo....asp?TID=21794
    I have seen this also. I'm a regular viewer and poster on that forum.

    I am happy to say that mine is trouble free.

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