Loudest sound system if as little outlay as poss?

[notroubleclubber]

Has anyone got a good cheapish amp that i could pair up with the cd15sp`s and maybe be enuf to power subs after?

[Excalibur]

Im looking at building up a sound system for as little as poss money.

Before i had a 300wrms 15" skytec speakers x2 through a soundlab 500w amp which i have since realised was running at about 250w per channel due to the ohms of the speakers.

What would you recommend as looking at about 600wrms per speaker and at least 500w coming from the amp and what people hear after calcualting ohms etc!

Dont mind going second hand but budget cant stretch over £450 - lower if at all possible.

Can't do what you want new for that budget. Closest would be CD15SP with C-Mark 2450 or similar amp. It'll ultimately leave you down on the sound output I guess you desire.

Best S/h would be Peavey UL15 /Hisys 2RX/ 2XT with amp to match.
Actives might fit your price range if you found the right ones. Ask away, folk will give help.
Berry 2000 is too small. 4000 is size you need, whether into CD15SP's on their own, or with subs.

[notroubleclubber]

I dont mind going 2nd hand.
WHeres the best place to look as ebay not that good at the mo.

[A1DL]

What would you recommend as looking at about 600wrms per speaker

ermmm.... any reason why? or is 600 a random number from a phone book?

600wrms per speaker and at least 500w coming from the amp

if the cabs are rated 600wrms INPUT power at given impedance, you want to be driving them with an amplifier that will power around 1,000-1,200wrms at same impedance.

Think along the lines of the national speed limit is 70mph... do you want a motor that will do 60mph with your foot hard on the floor, or one that will do a ton, and cruise comfortably at 70-80?

500w coming from the amp and what people hear after calcualting ohms etc!

(a) people can't hear watts and
(b) most people tend not to get too hung up about Ohm's law when listening to music and consuming alcoholic beverages at a party

[notroubleclubber]

very funny

I chose 600wrms per speaker as my old speakers were 350wrms and struggled. Then again this might be due to my old amp running only about 200wrms into my 8ohm speakers

[Excalibur]

I dont mind going 2nd hand.
WHeres the best place to look as ebay not that good at the mo.

No experience of these folk, but this is the sort of thing I'd suggest.

http://www.rockfactory.co.uk/proddet...-peavhisys2xt1

http://www.rockfactory.co.uk/proddet...avhisys2xtused

Good sized amp to feed them, and away you go.

These are nearer you.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-Hisys-H...3A1%7C294%3A50

Worth watching.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-Hisys-2...3A1%7C294%3A50

[notroubleclubber]

cool - but class d are brand new at same price. What would other people recommend - 2ndhand peaveys OR new Class D

[DJ Jules]

cool - but class d are brand new at same price. What would other people recommend - 2ndhand peaveys OR new Class D

At the risk of giving away the reason why I've been talking so much about Class D's tonight

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=120429231127

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=380128739924

In case you're wondering, I've decided I won't be bidding against anyone... I'm still saving up for "something better" whatever the hell that is

Julian

[A1DL]

very funny

wasn't meant to be

I chose 600wrms per speaker as my old speakers were 350wrms and struggled.

Mark - the amount of power a speaker needs to drive it does not determine how loud the speaker is. You want to look at efficiency (measured with 1 watt at 1 metre) and maximum sound pressure level data (both measurements will be quoted in decibels, not watts) to determine how loud a speaker will play.

Coming back to the motoring example, car "A" averages 45mpg, car "B" averages 22mpg. Which one will drive the fastest? The answer is, you simply can't tell from the fuel consumption.

Speaker "A" needs 350wrms, speaker "B" needs 600wrms. Speaker "B" may be less efficient than speaker "A" and turn two thirds of that power into heat. Car "B" could be an S500 AMG, but there's more chance it's a 20 year old Granada with a knackered engine that's not been serviced for 5 years.

[Excalibur]

cool - but class d are brand new at same price. What would other people recommend - 2ndhand peaveys OR new Class D

Peaveys will be 4ohms, more efficient, and probably give more sound. Whether you prefer that sound is a matter of taste/moot point.
Edit: Tony, didn't see your posts when I posted, but as always, duly noted.