12" or 15" tops.

[OllieJames]

Could that not be 2 seperate statements ???

It could be, but due to the lack of punctuation - who knows!

[ppentertainments]

It could be, but due to the lack of punctuation - who knows!

Exactly, and since 99.9% of people relate watts to loudness a good play on words maybe

[OllieJames]

Exactly, and since 99.9% of people relate watts to loudness a good play on words maybe

Yet incorrect, as i'm sure Tony will post about

[Cj_The_Dj]

really?

I guess you're liking it with your eyes and not your ears, CJ.

The 802 has 120deg. horizontal dispertion, therefore that example of rigging is quite frankly ridiculous.

As are the 302s with the "Nigeltronic® mobility downgrade" (wheels on the bottoms)

I only like the 1st one lol...

As You alot about P.Aa and so on.. could you help me...

Im after a small pair of speakers with quite a big coverage. for no more than 500.00 Idealy somthing I can fly for small gigs...

[A1DL]

Im after a small pair of speakers with quite a big coverage. for no more than 500.00 Idealy somthing I can fly for small gigs...

OK, a few questions first though...

- define "small"
- define "big coverage"
- define "fly"
- what will be going through them?

I'm hoping that the "500.00" bit isn't a total project budget in GBP, because depending on your definition of flying, you can expect to spend that and some for just the rigging alone.

Whilst there are small speakers available that perform way beyond what one may expect of their size (think wolf in lamb's clothing), they generally come at a premium price.

[Excalibur]

Whilst there are small speakers available that perform way beyond what one may expect of their size (think wolf in lamb's clothing), they generally come at a premium price.

£750 plus rigging. Not too bad. I know Adam F raves about these.

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR251052

[Cj_The_Dj]

OK, a few questions first though...

- define "small"
- define "big coverage"
- define "fly"
- what will be going through them?

I'm hoping that the "500.00" bit isn't a total project budget in GBP, because depending on your definition of flying, you can expect to spend that and some for just the rigging alone.

Whilst there are small speakers available that perform way beyond what one may expect of their size (think wolf in lamb's clothing), they generally come at a premium price.

- define "small" - small Cab like the 802s.
- define "big coverage" - somthing that has enough power, spl etc to fill a room say 80 people. (i do have a pair of PD 156 bass bins)
- define "fly" - being able to hang from lighting truss.

I been offerd a pair of 802s mk1 with contoller thats why ive considerd these. for £325.00

[A1DL]

£750 plus rigging. Not too bad. I know Adam F raves about these.

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR251052

Never heard them Peter, but if Adam says they're good then fair play.

However the spec on that link omits the three first pieces of data I look for on a spec sheet, i.e.

- How loud they play
- How low they play
- Their H & V dispertion angles

[Excalibur]

Never heard them Peter, but if Adam says they're good then fair play.

However the spec on that link omits the three first pieces of data I look for on a spec sheet, i.e.

- How loud they play
- How low they play
- Their H & V dispertion angles

Ask and ye shall receive.

Not quite as impressive specs as I'd expected.
http://www.cerwin-vega.com/manuals/Pro/CVA-28_spec.pdf

- define "small" - small Cab like the 802s.
- define "big coverage" - somthing that has enough power, spl etc to fill a room say 80 people. (i do have a pair of PD 156 bass bins)
- define "fly" - being able to hang from lighting truss.

I been offerd a pair of 802s mk1 with contoller thats why ive considerd these. for £325.00

Wouldn't be my first choice, but I'm no Bose expert.

[CRAZY K]

Which is best?

Heard some very nice 15" on Saturday - db Opera system which I am seriously given this some thought.

What's the pro and cons?

Thanks.

Well here goes--see if Tony A1 reacts--

I BELIEVE the answer to be that 12inch speakers being smaller than 15inch can move more quickly therefore for high and mid frequencies the optimum sound would be 12 inch especially if used with subs all the time.

15s move slower so therefore are not so responsive and better used for applications where subs are not needed because a bit more power and bassend is available when comparing same make BOXES perhaps carrying/ weight /space is an issue.

Peter said all this--he just didnt explain the technical reason--which probably doesnt matter but I suppose someones got to point this out.

Personally I believe size is important Tony --what about you



CRAZY K