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Originally Posted by
Chris1984
It not just the people who do big jobs who need to remember its a disco forum, the amount of people on here trying to play our game is ridiculous and so why you get moody when one of us comes to play your game is beyond me.
I'm aware this is off topic to the OP, but Chris makes a very valid point here, regarding people getting out of their depth, taking on what they have little/no experience in and without the correct equipment to do the job in hand.
Because clients with limited/no events experience often don't know what they need (and in fairness they shouldn't have to), they will rely on their suppliers to guide them. Too often they are left disappointed after believing everything DJ Dave Doubledecks tells them he can do with his 4 Peaveys and they end up thinking they have a real bargain, but instead getting poor quality sound, too loud and distorted up front, uneven throughout and too quiet at the back. Or an attempt at lighting a stage with a few battered Acme/Maplin/et al effects out of the back of their Nova. Or an outdoor PA system that only a handful of people can actually hear.
Not only does this leave a disappointed client, it takes a job away from a business with the experience and equipment to do it properly. Because the client often does not understand the technicalities, it makes the job of explaining they are not comparing apples with apples when they say (for example) "£1,000+vat!! but x has quoted me £300 all in" so much harder.
In the particular case of the OP, obviously it is highly unlikely in this scenario that the services of an LX professional would be engaged, and the judging by the size/venue/location a cheaper compromise is unlikely to disappoint anyone.
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All you seem to care about is money and prices.
THE POST WAS FOR IDEAS & SUGGESTIONS - if everybody said use a couple of led pars then there would be no ideas would there?
I was offing some advice at which point i was asked what i would hire it out for - so i answered the question.
I really do not understand why everybody on this forum seems to be banging on about prices and moneys.
It was a suggestion based on what i have that's it.
I really am at a loss as to why you are all getting so annoyed about a comment that all bar a couple of profile lights isn't to dissimilar from the rest of the ideas is it?
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Originally Posted by
Corabar Steve
You're right Tony it is off topic & totally irrelevant to this thread.
We're talking about lighting karaoke singers in a pub/club, not Pink Floyd at Wembley
Stadium!
its not off topic its a suggestion on lighting a small stage.
and im sure you can understand that your pink flyod comment as with darrens follow spot comment is off topic and irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by
Chris1984
All you seem to care about is money and prices.
THE POST WAS FOR IDEAS & SUGGESTIONS - if everybody said use a couple of led pars then there would be no ideas would there?
I was offing some advice at which point i was asked what i would hire it out for - so i answered the question.
I really do not understand why everybody on this forum seems to be banging on about prices and moneys.
It was a suggestion based on what i have that's it.
I really am at a loss as to why you are all getting so annoyed about a comment that all bar a couple of profile lights isn't to dissimilar from the rest of the ideas is it?
Pub Karaoke - Prob about £150
Hire of lights suggested - £250
Unless the op is prepared to PAY £100 for each karaoke gig, can't see your suggestion working. When making suggestions I think it is relevant for all to live in the real world and appreciate the circumstances surrounding the gig.
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i give up i offer suggestion that uses the right tools for the job and not just going on about led pars and you say im willy waving?
not in the slightest it was an example for the op to take some ideas from any may do something different to what all the 'lighting designers' on here do.
im not talking about big shows i answered with what i would do - i don't do karaoke i don't know the rates for that type of gig i didn't look at the location which yes i should have done but as said i would have offered the same suggestion with was a slight spin on what everyone else has said is a good idea.
the op doesn't need to go out and hire hi-end gear basic kit would have done.
you are all money obsessed and yes i run a business and yes we make money.
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Originally Posted by
Chris1984
i give up i offer suggestion that uses the right tools for the job
Ever heard the phrase "Using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut"?
Originally Posted by
Chris1984
im not talking about big shows i answered with what i would do
You answered what you would do. Fair enough, but you do have some of these lights already. How many of the rest of us do you actually think also do?
Originally Posted by
Chris1984
i don't do karaoke i don't know the rates for that type of gig.
& yet you feel qualified to suggest something that would either entail a significant purchase or unrealistic (expensive) hire for most of this forum's members.
Originally Posted by
Chris1984
the op doesn't need to go out and hire hi-end gear basic kit would have done.
Bingo!
Originally Posted by
Chris1984
yes i run a business and yes we make money.
Which doesn't answer my question. I asked if the motivation behind running a business was to earn money.
Originally Posted by
Chris1984
you are all money obsessed
Whatever.
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