4 X IEC to Bulgin

[sleah]

Standmate in reverse ?
This any good to you ??
http://www.images2.co.uk/Cable_Leads..._BU600510.html

Bloody hell that company REALLY need to talk to a qualified sparky!
Not too mention their ar5es kicking by trading standards.
Mind you they are using the words legal/illegal in that loverly inappropriate way
They bang on about regulations and how there lightboxes comply blah blah on the same page that they are selling a lead which COULD NEVER pass a basic inspection, let alone any kind of PAT, indeed could KILL

It's already been mentioned in this thread that such a lead leaves exposed neutral connectors that could become live.

There is a chance a voltage could appear on a neutral, hence they are always treated in the same was as a live connector.

Imagine the live & neutral were swapped in whatever is feeding the device you plug those IECs into, you would have exposed live pins.

Even if one of the IEC outlets was reverse wired there would be a bloody big bang!

[BossmanKaraokeDisco]

Imagine the live & neutral were swapped in whatever is feeding the device you plug those IECs into, you would have exposed live pins.

Even if one of the IEC outlets was reverse wired there would be a bloody big bang!

Not sure where your seeing live pins here as the male iec plugs are being pluged into the power feed and so no power enters the wire until they are plugged in, which then leaves the female bulgin socket to plug your units into which is the correct way.
The power is being fed in at the IEC plug end and out at the female Bulgin.

Dave
Bossman Karaoke Disco

[A1DL]

Not sure where you're seeing live pins here as the male iec plugs are being pluged into the power feed and so no power enters the wire until they are plugged in, which then leaves the female bulgin socket to plug your units into which is the correct way.
The power is being fed in at the IEC plug end and out at the female Bulgin.

Dave
Bossman Karaoke Disco

If you have 2 x IEC60320/C14 plugs and the neutral from both is commoned in the Bulgin PX0956S inlet, when only one of the two is connected to a supply, the neutral may become energised on the C14 plug that is not connected, which may be touched.

[sleah]

If you have 2 x IEC60320/C14 plugs and the neutral from both is commoned in the Bulgin PX0956S inlet, when only one of the two is connected to a supply, the neutral may become energised on the C14 plug that is not connected, which may be touched.

Thank you Sir! Saved me some typing

The only 100% safe way to do it is the female connector needs to have the same number of pins as cables entering it.
So if you have four male IECs, that's 12 cables. The Bulgin on the lead in question only has 8 pins

[A1DL]

The only 100% safe way to do it is the female connector needs to have the same number of pins as cables entering it.

correct, a la socapex...

In soca spiders you have dedicated phase, neutral & earth pins for each tail, therefore if individual tail/s are disconnected, there is no risk of shock from a common pole, nor a dependancy on all/multiple tails to be patched to maintain the neutral and/or earth.

[sleah]

UPDATE:
It seems those of us who have been using Bulgin 8 ways for some time now risk a crminal record


Email correspondance:

Sorry but no! Incidentally legal doesn’t come in to it, no-one is going to jail for using the wrong connector.

This lead would seem ideal for use with (say) a dimmer with four IEC outlets. In the event that dimmer’s incoming mains was reversed, either by the plug incorrectly wired or the source being incorrect, the lead could easily leave live exposed connectors.
There are also many older Bulgin 8 way cables still in common use!
The ONLY safe way to adapt separate IEC (or similar) connectors in to a multicore cable and connector is to use a connector with at least as many pins as incoming cables, such as Socapex.
Therefore a system using the Bulgin 8 way that needs to interconnect to a dimmer or switch pack with only single channel output connectors should be converted to socapex or equivalent.

Regards
Simon Leah
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From: Sales [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 May 2010 13:03
To: 'Simon Leah'
Subject: RE: Dangerous products

Hi Simon

This lead is only dangerous to anyone using the now defunct and already illegal generation 1 bulgin male to male leads. Anyone using the current legal generation 4 male to female lead with this product is perfectly safe.


regards
David

Images Entertainments Store

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From: Simon Leah [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 May 2010 11:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Dangerous products

Dear Sirs,

With reference to http://www.images2.co.uk/Cable_Leads_Conne...e_BU600510.html

4 x Male IEC to 8 way Bulgin connector.

You do know how staggeringly DANGEROUS that cable is??? Your website talks of safety standards yet you sell a cable that could potentially KILL.

Simon Leah