Another produb ish post

[Corabar Steve]

Or download the lot from the likes of Amazon, 7 digital etc...

[djtrev]

I think you will find Marting that there are a lot of good professional DJ's out there in the same predicament as you who do not have the ProDub licence simply because they dont think it is workable.
Legally it would seem that you need the licence but the truth is that a lot of DJ's think it is not enforcable.
It is a very personal decision but which ever method you chose you will have support.
Maybe not the best thing to do on a mobile DJ site is to admit to illegal downloads but you wont be the first and certainly not the last to do it.

[Pink Elephant]

My understanding of the ProDub is that half the fee is for the format shifting (ripping from cd in our case), and the other half was the public performance of a track bought for personnal use.

If my understanding is correct (and no doubt I will find out if I am wrong ) then if you download your songs only, then you still need the ProDub.

Or am I just being Fik (as they say on a well known soap)?

[Corabar Entertainment]

Or am I just being Fik (as they say on a well known soap)?

TBH... I'm really not sure where you've got your information from, because I've not even heard that one before doing the rounds as one of the urban myths!

It is purely a copying / format shifting licence.

PS: ....although it is for people who are using the material in any kind of a commercial environment, so maybe that is where your confusion has arisen??????

[Dynamic Entertainment]

My understanding of the ProDub is that half the fee is for the format shifting (ripping from cd in our case), and the other half was the public performance of a track bought for personnal use.

If my understanding is correct (and no doubt I will find out if I am wrong ) then if you download your songs only, then you still need the ProDub.

Or am I just being Fik (as they say on a well known soap)?

It depends. If you download the track directly to the external HDD used for your playout then you dont need ProDub. If you download to your desktops internal HDD, then cut and paste over to your external...then you need the licence.

[Corabar Entertainment]

It depends. If you download the track directly to the external HDD used for your playout then you dont need ProDub. If you download to your desktops internal HDD, then cut and paste over to your external...then you need the licence.

..or if you make a back-up copy.

[Ecstatic Events]

It depends. If you download the track directly to the external HDD used for your playout then you dont need ProDub. If you download to your desktops internal HDD, then cut and paste over to your external...then you need the licence.

I download the MP3 directly to the external because I do not have a pro dub license. But to be fair. How on earth will someone be able to tell that i have done it this way, and how can the powers that be police this?

[sleah]

TBH... I'm really not sure where you've got your information from, because I've not even heard that one before doing the rounds as one of the urban myths!

It is purely a copying / format shifting licence.

PS: ....although it is for people who are using the material in any kind of a commercial environment, so maybe that is where your confusion has arisen??????

Don't forget it's forunner - the Digital DJ License debarcle.... that was to do with public performance... being PPL..
I seem to recall there was a suggestion in the early days of needing both or something along those lines, so maybe that's where the myth has sprung from?

[marting]

Maybe not the best thing to do on a mobile DJ site is to admit to illegal downloads.

Not any more all gone 100% legal from now on must admit my finger was sshking when i hit the delete key.......

[Eski75]

But to be fair. How on earth will someone be able to tell that i have done it this way, and how can the powers that be police this?

I have always wondered this. As per the OP, I am new and want to be legal and shall be legal, however I am baffled as to how somebody can tell a ripped from CD to MP3 track and a legally downloaded one without stopping the gig and examining code etc (that's just a guess before the tech's rip me to shreds) and all this talk of receipts??? What if I cannot produce one email from Amazon that has been accidently deleted....the licence is revoked?

I hope this doesn't hijack the thread, but in addition to these points.....what if I'm a specialist genre DJ that has several thousand tracks in their collection but is only ever likely to use a few hundred...........do you pay for all of the tracks on your playout or only the ones your likely to use?????

I know I will be in a minority but it all seems like a lot of beauracratic nonsense.