"Format Shifting" to be legalised?

[Creature]

its easy Funkymook - just buy the mp3 from a legal website - no Produb required

[mattydinx]

Or you could try (like I did before I posted) looking into the whole thing, rather than relying on an out of context quote.

Actually the quote wasn't out of context when the BBC article was first published yesterday morning. The article has been majorly changed since I posted the link and less of a point has now been made about 'legal CD ripping'

[funkymook]

either pay the fee...dont format shift...or work round it legally (as I do)

A legal work around? Intriguing. Something you care to share with us?

its easy Funkymook - just buy the mp3 from a legal website - no Produb required

That comes under 'don't format shift' it's not a work around.

[Corabar Steve]

Actually the quote wasn't out of context when the BBC article was first published yesterday morning. The article has been majorly changed since I posted the link and less of a point has now been made about 'legal CD ripping'

I beg to differ. The quote was on it's on with no relation to anything else in the whole article (or the proposal), ergo it was out of context.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Personally can't wait to se the end of produb. IMO when you pay for a track that should be the end of it....period.

It is unless you make a copy.

[BossmanKaraokeDisco]

its easy Funkymook - just buy the mp3 from a legal website - no Produb required

So you download from the legal website straight to your playout hard drive then cos if you dont you still need Produb.
Also assuming you dont make a copy either, what happens if your hard drive crashes???

[Dynamic Entertainment]

A legal work around? Intriguing. Something you care to share with us?

Not really a secret, ive mentioned it loads of times. i download direct to my extrenal hard driveand plug that into my laptop running serato. Im running on a mixture of MP3 and cd, and slowly rebuying the most popular stuff i play on cd as MP3 with a view to only carrying cds for stuff thats not available on MP3.

I have a seperate extrenal hard drive for back up, which is downloaded directly only that has a very small selection of top tracks, so if the main harddrive or laptop dies then i have backup (aswell as CDs). I only have a bery small collection of floorfillers on that drive becuse the backup lappy isnt overly powerful or capable of processing a huge library. Yes, it means buying some tracks twice, but as long as im still on cds too, i dont mind.

[Excalibur]

So you download from the legal website straight to your playout hard drive then cos if you dont you still need Produb.
Also assuming you dont make a copy either, what happens if your hard drive crashes???

Well, this is where it gets greyer than a battleship on a foggy day, but:
As I understand it, you're allowed to make a backup of your downloads. No question, as long as it's not used for performance.

Logic suggests that you put a new HD in your playout machine, and reinstate the tunes without penalty, or alternatively get the IT magicians to recover the original HD contents, and transfer it to a newly installed one. This is of course merely my supposition, but I feel it doesn't breach the spirit of the licence.

[BossmanKaraokeDisco]

Well, this is where it gets greyer than a battleship on a foggy day, but:
As I understand it, you're allowed to make a backup of your downloads. No question, as long as it's not used for performance.

Logic suggests that you put a new HD in your playout machine, and reinstate the tunes without penalty, or alternatively get the IT magicians to recover the original HD contents, and transfer it to a newly installed one. This is of course merely my supposition, but I feel it doesn't breach the spirit of the licence.

Dont know about foggy day, thats a real pea-souper, IMO I think that you still need Produb for doing that, but I could be wrong and I am sure someone will point out if I am

[DJ_Wulfman]

So you download from the legal website straight to your playout hard drive then cos if you dont you still need Produb.
Also assuming you dont make a copy either, what happens if your hard drive crashes???

I would presume that using your "back-up" copy to restore the original is acceptable practice (being the whole point of making back-up copies) and therefore bypasses produb legislation.

But then again, I'm not the person making up and trying to justify stupid unenforceable laws to try and fleece an extra few quid from you.