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I remember too hearing something about the backup.
Remember, all those prices above are + VAT so it's not £600 it's £720, it's not £50 per month it's £60, billed quarterly so it's £180 per quarter...
I don't pay that much now so i'll give it a miss.
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Originally Posted by
ianforest
I remember too hearing something about the backup.
Remember, all those prices above are + VAT so it's not £600 it's £720, it's not £50 per month it's £60, billed quarterly so it's £180 per quarter...
I don't pay that much now so i'll give it a miss.
Ditto - Too much for my needs. Nice idea for start up DJs that want a legal music collection mind you.
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Format Shifting
Originally Posted by
Corabar Entertainment
Really? First time I've heard that one, and seems to go against everything that Produb stands for!
I am not Format Shifting. You pay a produb licence to Format Shift. You are also permitted to have a back-up copy of your Format Shifted files.
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£10 per gig
Originally Posted by
ianforest
I remember too hearing something about the backup.
Remember, all those prices above are + VAT so it's not £600 it's £720, it's not £50 per month it's £60, billed quarterly so it's £180 per quarter...
I don't pay that much now so i'll give it a miss.
£720 works out at £10 per gig for me. I was spending £35 per gig on CDs and licences... so it is a huge saving for me.
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Originally Posted by
leelive
You pay a produb licence to Format Shift.
No, you pay for the Produb to make copies, regardless of format, hence the reason why copyright is involved as you are 'copying'.
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back-up
Originally Posted by
Solitaire Entertainments Ltd
No, you pay for the Produb to make copies, regardless of format, hence the reason why copyright is involved as you are 'copying'.
Think we are going round in circles. There is still no need to have a Produb for a back-up copy of downloaded tracks.
I have the email from the MCPS. This issue has already been discussed on this forum before so thought was widely understood.
Lee
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QUOTE from an email dated 8th June 2010:
Hi Lee,
You are allowed to make back up copies of legitimate, legal copies without the need for a ProDub licence.
If you are format shifting and making copies for the purposes of your work as a professional DJ then a Licence would be required.
Many thanks
Andy Ewbank l Music Licensing Manager l
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I have had a trial of this, it seems a bit fickle to get along with. It would have been better if they put all the weeks latest releases in a seperate area instead of having to search for songs.
I didn't realise the pirces were + vat either.
It will start becoming a real pain having to check the charts, hunt down new releases etc and type that all in to find what you want.
With my cd pool sub, most tracks are there and maybe I'll have to buy a couple to make up whats not there.
All in all, I can't justify £60 a month, so ..... i'm out
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Originally Posted by
leelive
QUOTE from an email dated 8th June 2010:
If you are format shifting and making copies for the purposes of your work as a professional DJ then a Licence would be required.
So you make a copy for what then Lee? If your hard drive died, you would then need to use the copies, so therefore would require the copy to use as a professional DJ (eg: commercial, making money from the music)
SO basically if you intend on making a copy of your downloads for use as a professional DJ, then you need the licence.
Read the email again, as that is exactly what it is saying.
Originally Posted by
leelive
There is still no need to have a Produb for a back-up copy of downloaded tracks.
If you are a member of the public not using the tracks to DJ with or for commercial gain.
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time
Originally Posted by
Solitaire Entertainments Ltd
So you make a copy for what then Lee? If your hard drive died, you would then need to use the copies, so therefore would require the copy to use as a professional DJ (eg: commercial, making money from the music)
SO basically if you intend on making a copy of your downloads for use as a professional DJ, then you need the licence.
Read the email again, as that is exactly what it is saying.
If you are a member of the public not using the tracks to DJ with or for commercial gain.
A back-up copy is for that exact purpose. To re-instate files lost due to a hardware error. If it happened I wouldn't be creating an extra copy I would be restoring a copy.
I have several other emails from the MCPS discussing this issue. I clarified it with them long before using mobiledjdownloads.com in 2010. I have nothing to hide. I was as confused as you until I contacted them. They created the laws and they up-hold the laws. They know my purpose and are happy with what I am doing. You are just trying to wind me up.
Lee
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