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Originally Posted by
ukpartydj
I don't see why I am not an agent? I organise a service for a client.
How on earth do you make money as an agent when you are charging £170 for 4 hours?
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Originally Posted by
ukpartydj
probably think agencies are a bit of a joke, it's not for everyone is all I can really say.
Agencies only get treated like a joke if they are unprofessional.
My wifes Barn and Line Dance Agency offers a fully professional service on the end of a landline 24/7 or by email.
She gets many complimentary feedback emails.
Its not that difficult
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Originally Posted by
ukpartydj
I don't see why I am not an agent? I organise a service for a client.
If you organise, therefore you are, unless, your prime income is derived from hiring, say, tables, chairs etc and the DJ or Band is an addition to this.
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Originally Posted by
Solitaire Entertainments Ltd
How on earth do you make money as an agent when you are charging £170 for 4 hours?
There are a lot of decent DJ's out there willing to do pubs and similar venues for £100+ I am of course talking about those that have another job. For those I only normally take £20 or £30 however. These are the sort of DJ's who will turn up, play music take requests and not give any real personal service. I used to be one of these DJ's when I started I was very keen to do a good job and fee's as low as £75 whilst I had another job was very low but also very welcome.
I know of 3 agencies other than mine (all far more established than mine) who I have got to know very well and they all offer jobs in the region of £125 -£175 for Hotel and Pub work ... small / medium sized pubs don't want to pay more than £150 -£175.
A lot of good DJ's who I know would rather earn £125-150 than sit on their arse. One of them who advertises prices from £350 on his website accepted a budget gig (£130) the other day because of this.
Actually I've just received an email from one of them I will list some of the prices they offer -
NYE - £250 (8pm-1am)
NYE - £250 (8pm-1am)
1st Dec - £150 (9pm - 2am)
NYE - £250 (9pm -2am)
15th Dec - £125 (7pm - Midnight)
And that is from an agency which employs 3 people to work in their office and have been going 5 years.
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NaD has so far handled quotes for a total of 322 "straightforward" NYE events with budgets ranging from £100 to £800, average of £327.
NYE 2011 was 308 events, budgets £100 - £820, average £335.
But December hasn't started yet, so the last minute panic merchants might push this year's average up a bit.
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Originally Posted by
ukpartydj
There are a lot of decent DJ's out there willing to do pubs and similar venues for £100+ I am of course talking about those that have another job. For those I only normally take £20 or £30 however.
I repeat, how on earth do you make money as an agent charging £170? Unless you have 20+ DJs out a week, it seems hardly worth the hassle.
Oh, and I have been around quite a long time and do know the industry very well, so please try and be a bit less patronising.
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I really don't understand it either Darren.
£20.00 here, £30.00 there...is it really worth the hassle unless like you said, there are multiple bookings going on in?
I have a couple of DJ's that I use on a regular basis and a number of others I can call upon should I need them. They all either tell me what they want pricewise or know exactly what they are going to get before they do the gig. I wouldn't personally take on bookings and pass them on if it wasn't worthwhile for me to do it and I certainly wouldn't do it for £20.00 here and there. I trust this DJ's 100% but firing gigs off willy nilly (ha!ha! never used that term before) to anyone just to make £20.00 is a risk in my opinion (just the same as it would be if you were making £100.00 and didn't know them). Is it worth risking your name?
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Just to go back to the title of this thread - 'Amounts offered so far from clients'
Sorry, but do we not tell THEM what we charge not ask them what they are offering ???? Or am I completely wrong ??
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Originally Posted by
Vectis
NaD has so far handled quotes for a total of 322 "straightforward" NYE events with budgets ranging from £100 to £800, average of £327.
NYE 2011 was 308 events, budgets £100 - £820, average £335.
But December hasn't started yet, so the last minute panic merchants might push this year's average up a bit.
I hope so only had 2 enquiries so far max budget £250
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Originally Posted by
Solitaire Entertainments Ltd
I repeat, how on earth do you make money as an agent charging £170? Unless you have 20+ DJs out a week, it seems hardly worth the hassle.
Oh, and I have been around quite a long time and do know the industry very well, so please try and be a bit less patronising.
Sorry I never like patronising people, you still don't seem to understand - I'm trying to explain.
£20 is not to be sniffed at, and this is the minimum amount I will take, do you think I spend hours on organising DJ's and events? Sometimes it takes about 30mins sometimes an hour and a half to answer peoples questions and organise DJ's.
I spend money advertising, every enquiry I will try and turn around - if it means I have to take £20 insted of my standard £40-50 I'd rather have the money for the little bit of work required than just turn it away.
I think you guys have got the wrong end of the stick here, I know that "DJ Fred" is great at kids parties and "DJ Jim" is good for older couples weddings. I ask a few questions to the client and then ask the correct DJ for the job to see if they are interested. If the event is a budget one then I don't ask as many questions, sometimes clients will increase their budget for a more experienced better matched DJ if I cannot provide a good match in their budget.
I am also a DJ if you haven't read my previous posts, so this money is on top of my weekends earnings.
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