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    Hi Guys,

    I've a couple of questions relating to mics:

    1) Karaoke. Currently using a Chord 4 channel wireless set for karaoke, with individual levels.
    Every now and then I get a group of singers, where one likes to be very loud, even seeming to shout down the mic, where others could be really quiet.

    It's a PITA trying to maintain gain levels for 4 singers, trying to remember who is on what colour mic, and adjust them (sometimes needed quickly when shouting down the mics)

    I'm wondering if there is a simply way to have some sort of Auto gain control for mics, so the quiet singers can be amplified, and the loud singers, attenuated (all automatically)

    2) Ducking. I like having the ability to duck, save messing with sliders, but on my MC6000, when ducking is in use it ducks too much. (So I don't currently use the feature).

    Is there a way to have adjustable duckling levels, are there any mixers/controllers which support it?

    Is there a mixer/controller which would sort both my questions out?

    TIA

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    I'm hoping others might have better memories than me here... but generally you won't see Compression (Auto Gain Control) on a mixer with ducking because Compression is a feature aimed at bands and live performers and ducking is generally used by DJ's. The two worlds don't often collide I think there was a software update available for the Denon to resolve an issue with ducking (but I can't remember if it was to increase or decrease the amount!)

    The Yamaha mixers had compressors built into the mic channels which would sort out your shouty singers. Doing a quick google the Mackie ONYX series also have them.

    Sorry I can't be of more help... hopefully someone else will be along soon with a magic mixer to solve all of your issues

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    Would something like this do the job?
    Keeps each mic in check and wont cut out the other ones if someone shouts into it.

    I don't know whether foam would make a difference to the mic sensitivity also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdj View Post
    Would something like this do the job?
    Keeps each mic in check and wont cut out the other ones if someone shouts into it.

    I don't know whether foam would make a difference to the mic sensitivity also?

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    Looks like a good option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcontact68 View Post
    Looks like a good option.
    Probably cheap too and will work with your current mic thing as i think thats rack mountable?
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    If only my chord receiver had mounts on...... Yes, an option to look at, could leave wired up then in a rack

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    Just be aware that once you start adding compressors in to the chain, you have less headroom before feedback kicks in, because of the way a compressor works.

    You are moving more towards sound engineering territory - although it's worth learning, as you get a far better sound out of a processed mic then one just "raw".

    All of the mics on live stages will be processed, with eq, compressors and gates. It can make a big difference to the sound - positively when set up well, but equally, badly when set up wrong!

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    What's the simplest option here (without hovering over all 4 gain controls on the receiver, hoping to get the correct one at the correct time)

    Ideally a plug-n-play solution

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    Personally I'd leave them to it.

    Anyway your best bet is to take 4 outs from the receiver to a small PA mixer & mix them properly. Mark the mic colours on the mixer channels.

    As for ducking - I can't ducking stand ducking. It's never sounded good on anything. What's so hard about sliding a fader once in a while?! :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakatomi View Post
    Personally I'd leave them to it.

    Anyway your best bet is to take 4 outs from the receiver to a small PA mixer & mix them properly. Mark the mic colours on the mixer channels.

    As for ducking - I can't ducking stand ducking. It's never sounded good on anything. What's so hard about sliding a fader once in a while?! :O

    Yes, I do use the summed output of the Chord into a mic channel on the VMS, when I'm offering what I call " Karaoke Lite ", ie the big mixer stays at home, and I can still use the Micromax. Mainly for when Karaoke is alleged to be secondary to the disco.

    Nothing beats having the enhanced capabilities of a dedicated mixer though, as long as it has faders, FX, and enough channels. ( Mute buttons don't hurt, either. )
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