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Thread: The mic channel/channels on my mixer/controller are/aren't fit for purpose.

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    Default The mic channel/channels on my mixer/controller are/aren't fit for purpose.

    And in this case, we will assume that the purpose is being a mobile DJ who needs at least one mic channel which can offer a clear microphone sound. In a seasonally generous moment, I haven't stipulated two dedicated channels with volume, bass, middle, treble and kill switches, which I still maintain is the absolute minimum.

    My ADJ VMS4.1 offers this, and that's why I use it. A colleague has a VMS4, and despite it allegedly having an awful mic channel, he's having no problems with it at all.

    I've had experience of the Denon 6000 mk1, and it wasn't great in that area, but with a lot of adjusting of levels could be made to work in a passable fashion.

    OK folks, what have you got? Why is it suitable or unsuitable for the job? Floor is yours.
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    VMS4.1 and MC6000 mkII - no problems whatsoever (may just be the wireless mics I used with them).
    MC7000....waaaay too hot (not so much on the wireless mics but the wired dynamic mic....WOW!). Just a click of gain is more than enough.

    May just be because I've not had it long enough to get used to it properly....will report back more towards the end of the week after another couple of gigs.

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    Well at the moment none.................
    But the best I have ever used is the denon X900 ,two mic channels , both with EQ, stunning mixer

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    The Denon MC6000 mk2.

    Has been absolutely brilliant and I love the mic channels on it.

    Even the auto ducking is pretty good for when I'm doing stuff out front.

    Not had to use the reverb yet but seems like it could do an acceptable job should I ever need to do karaoke [shudder]

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    MC6000 MK1. The only way to get the mic to keep up with the level of music without distorting is pretty simple once you work out the music side of the mixer is very hot. About 2x too hot. So, crank the master volume of your playout software to 50%. Then, if using a dynamic wired mic you have up to 4 nodgits from OFF on the mic gain control to get your mic well & truly in the red if you speak up a bit - or 2 nodgits if using a typical radio mic. With careful adjustment during soundcheck you can get very nice sounding mics over your PA.

    The 'echo' the controller offers is alright I suppose if you're a Star Turn on 45 pints kind of klerb singer or a dub reggae artist.

    As for the ducking feature - that's surely a typo.

    Fit for purpose - yes, but only barely because of the twitchy gain controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imagine View Post
    MC7000....waaaay too hot .
    Just spoke to someone with the 8000. Apparently, compared to that, yours is sub zero!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
    Just spoke to someone with the 8000. Apparently, compared to that, yours is sub zero!!
    I think maybe the issue is these controllers are also trying to cater to bedroom DJs (we've all seem em at BPM ragging the faders off stuff on the Pie In Ear stand). Amateur 'broadcasters' who expect to be able to do 'shout outs' with their crappy low output mics from Currys. Shove something decent in like an SM58 and whoah..

    I mean, just taking the MC6000mk2 mic channel sensitivity here... from -60dBU which is about 1 millivolt.. virtually blimmin useless for real PA work without pre-attenuating it.

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    I use the Numark N4.

    Meets Excalibur’s requirements and served me well. Some times use 3 mics. Two wireless with one receiver and output in one input and trusty Senheisser e845 wired in to input 2 for me.

    Controller has been so good (mic inputs included ) that I am considering upgrading to the NS6 mkii. The Denon MC6000 mkii is on the list as well but I think it is a bit physically small and the buttons too close together.

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    VMS5, mic channels are spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrodisco View Post
    VMS5, mic channels are spot on.
    Funny, I've found them to be noisy and way too hot. The basic design is a bit flawed - pre-amp first and then what is effectively a volume control on the output from the pre-amp. If you put in a signal that causes the pre-amp to clip then you have no way of attenuating it. The really crazy bit is that if you want the Mic input to keep up with the 0db level from the built in sound card, you HAVE to drive the Mic channel to clipping (and push the gain to max).

    Anyway, the way I've made this work is to put three resistors between the Mic and the input to attenuate the Mic input to prevent it from clipping, but now have to crank the Mic volume right up (introducing hiss) to level it with the Sound card output.

    Maybe I missed a firmware update??
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