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Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 06:19 PM
Not once, but twice in one week, have our tripods been broken.

The pictures are from the first set, when an exetremly drunk woman knocked into the tripods and over they went, shearing the pole completely and bending one of the legs.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa260/daz2410/DSC00172Small.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa260/daz2410/DSC00171Small.jpg


The second time, another drunk woman bounced into my stands and it was only the fact that I happened to be facing the same way, that I caught the speaker. If I hadn't of caught it, I'm sure I would have been in hospital still now, as it would have smashed into my head. The stand was trashed again though.

colint
10-12-2007, 06:21 PM
Use steel stands, much better than ally!

djsteve10
10-12-2007, 06:23 PM
Nice big jbl cabs you got there... heard some of them and they sound nice... and nice and heavy too.

Not much luck your way with the speaker tripods then.

We once sheared one of the t-bar tripiods that hold a goal post up... only put 4 dynamos and 2 abstract twisters on it lol.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 06:23 PM
Use steel stands, much better than ally!

You're probably right. I used to use (and still have in fact) Powerdrive stands, but I started using these as they are strong and very light and also hold up to 70Kg!

I don't think it would have mattered in these cases as they were smashed into quite hard and the second woman was on the large side.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 06:24 PM
Nice big jbl cabs you got there... heard some of them and they sound nice... and nice and heavy too.



Not mine - one of my DJs in his storage space.

djsteve10
10-12-2007, 06:25 PM
aaah i see... they are very big and heavy tho... you just have your mackies on them then?

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 06:27 PM
aaah i see... they are very big and heavy tho... you just have your mackies on them then?

Yep, the first time was Lee's booking and the second was mine, both in the same venue and just a couple of days apart. Never happened to me in 20 odd years and then twice in a week!

djsteve10
10-12-2007, 06:29 PM
yeah dont think that has ever happened to me either lol

Tom
10-12-2007, 06:30 PM
i use these stands. Very very strong - http://www.studiospares.com/Product.aspx?code=448310

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 06:33 PM
i use these stands. Very very strong - http://www.studiospares.com/Product.aspx?code=448310

In this case I don't think the strength was an issue, more stability. If the tripod hadn't been knocked completely over, then the top bit wouldn't have sheared off.

Tom
10-12-2007, 06:34 PM
Ahh ok. after looking at the stand it does look a bit on the small side the size of the speakers being use. imo.

Excalibur
10-12-2007, 06:35 PM
I have run over one in a car park, and lost a pair out of the van in the past!:(

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 06:41 PM
Ahh ok. after looking at the stand it does look a bit on the small side the size of the speakers being use. imo.

Well your opinion is wrong. The stands are rated up to 70Kg and Mackies are 23Kg.

The stands are these.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Proel-FRE300BK-Black-PA-Speaker-Stands-Bag_W0QQitemZ320191331994QQihZ011QQcategoryZ47094Q QcmdZViewItem

The Mackies are a 12" speaker and aren't that big, let alone heavy.

Shaun
10-12-2007, 07:09 PM
That looks nasty Daz. Just glad you're OK. It would've been quite a headache if it had landed on you.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 07:14 PM
That looks nasty Daz. Just glad you're OK. It would've been quite a headache if it had landed on you.

The pictures were from Lee's stand, which were slightly worse off than mine as he didn't manage to catch his, but I did.

robbiedj
10-12-2007, 07:20 PM
Are either trying to sue you for tripping over the stands?

Tom
10-12-2007, 07:24 PM
Well your opinion is wrong. The stands are rated up to 70Kg and Mackies are 23Kg.



Just trying to see how you are saying that. :confused:

as in nasty or in a friendly manner.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 07:33 PM
Just trying to see how you are saying that. :confused:

as in nasty or in a friendly manner.

Neither. Thousands of people use these stands and they are fairly standard. The Mackies are not too big to go on them. That's a fact, which is why I'm saying you are wrong.


Are either trying to sue you for tripping over the stands?

Nope.

I'd like to see them try Robbie. Both were very drunk and I have plenty of witnesses including Hotel staff and Hotel security.

CRAZY K
10-12-2007, 07:37 PM
Yep, the first time was Lee's booking and the second was mine, both in the same venue and just a couple of days apart. Never happened to me in 20 odd years and then twice in a week!

Sign of the times we live in Daz?

Drunks, drunks and more drunks?

CRAZY K

gillo
10-12-2007, 07:38 PM
proel is a well established company and design very well made and sturdy stands! if it says it will hold 70kg then it will they are probably tested to twice this amount for safety issues! but when a given amouny of force is focussed fast on a certain point then it will just sheer off like it has done. its like if you make a bridge to hold 10 stone and you are 8 stone then you stand in the middle and jump it will give way because its like 16 stone being applied if you no what i mean:)rambling on a bit here but you get the point

soundmaster mobile disco
10-12-2007, 08:29 PM
Don't you just hate drunks!
what happens with regards to costs for repairs\new tripods daz?
Can you claim from the drunk person who caused the damage or is it an insurance claim?

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-12-2007, 08:36 PM
Don't you just hate drunks!
what happens with regards to costs for repairs\new tripods daz?
Can you claim from the drunk person who caused the damage or is it an insurance claim?

I managed to get £45 from the first person, but didn't see the second woman as I was holding a speaker up in front of my face.

I have an excess for the insurance, so it's not worth claiming.

CRAZY K
10-12-2007, 09:55 PM
I managed to get £45 from the first person, but didn't see the second woman as I was holding a speaker up in front of my face.
I have an excess for the insurance, so it's not worth claiming.

PROBABLY A BONUS DAZ--- NOT A PLEASANT SIGHT:eek:

CRAZY K

rob1963
10-12-2007, 11:00 PM
Use steel stands, much better than ally!

Same here.

When the threads finally went on my Doughty steel stands after about 10 years, I thought I'd replace them with aluminium ones, as they were lighter.

However, I hated them...as they seemed a bit bendy compared to the steel ones & just not heavy duty enough.

After a couple of gigs, I threw them out & bought another pair of Doughty jobs. Although they were more expensive, they're as solid as a rock, and there's no way in a million years I can see them breaking or shearing off.

Better to be safe than sorry!

PropellerHeadCase
10-12-2007, 11:55 PM
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa260/daz2410/DSC00171Small.jpg

Is that picture indicative of the distance apart you have the feet of the stands when in use?

rob1963
11-12-2007, 12:05 AM
Is that picture indicative of the distance apart you have the feet of the stands when in use?

I'm guessing the answer to that one will be a definate "No"!

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-12-2007, 08:51 AM
Is that picture indicative of the distance apart you have the feet of the stands when in use?

I'm not even sure I should reply to a question like that. Do you think I'm really that stupid? :mad:


I'm guessing the answer to that one will be a definate "No"!

Correct.

The stand was photographed like that as it wouldn't fold down any more than that after the incident.

Corabar Entertainment
11-12-2007, 04:26 PM
Is that picture indicative of the distance apart you have the feet of the stands when in use?
I'm not even sure I should reply to a question like that. Do you think I'm really that stupid? Yes..... must admit when I read that I thought "I really do hope that Alan just forgot the :p from the end of that post" :eek: :eek:

PropellerHeadCase
11-12-2007, 05:19 PM
Hey, if you're jammed in a corner, sometimes you have no choice - and I've seen cleverer people than I do stupider things than that.

No offence meant, Darren.

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-12-2007, 05:22 PM
Hey, if you're jammed in a corner, sometimes you have no choice - and I've seen cleverer people than I do stupider things than that.

No offence meant, Darren.

None taken, but if had a pair of 23Kg speakers on tripods opened like that, it wouldn't take a drunk woman to knock them over, they'd fall down on their own!