Seriously drunk punters

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Having discussed this with all my guys and several other people on here and other forums, why this year, do people appear to be getting more drunk than ever at Christmas parties?

We have had more incidents this December than I can remember before, involving drunk people, getting shirty for one reason or another (normal story - you won't play their request immediately etc), starting trouble, or knocking over and damaging gear.

People seem to go out on a company Christmas do with the sole intention of making idiots of themselves. These functions are all in Hotels, so you'd expect people to behave, but they don't.

Don't people go out the rest of the year?

I'm seriously beginning to lose my patience with drunken idiots now. Don't get me wrong - I like a beer or five, but I still know how to behave myself.

Anyone else experiencing more trouble and abuse than normal this December?

*awaits Steve's reply* ;)

[Dragonfly]

I got my first bit of abuse Sat night .... the first time for ages ... infact this year as I can remember.

What really annoyed me was he said his piece calling me several things then went to the toilet and came straight back and called me them again with hand gestures ... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I do not however tolerate this in any capacity and made sure his bosses knew what had been said/done. :D :D :D :D :D

[Silver]

I'm doing my normal pub gigs and can say there seems to be more problems with 'lashed up' young women, I would not call them ladies. They come up and request a tune and want it played NOW!!! I had this on Friday and this girl, about 20 really went off on one when I said I'd put it on in three or four tunes time.

The problem is of course, we are all human and when you get this approach, you can easily think "up yours, I'm not playing that!"

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm doing my normal pub gigs and can say there seems to be more problems with 'lashed up' young women,

Nearly all of our problems have involved women too. Worrying.:(

[Shaun]

I'm doing my normal pub gigs and can say there seems to be more problems with 'lashed up' young women


Nearly all of our problems have involved women too. Worrying.:(


Me too. The women are worse than men. Why do they all seem to think they can DEMAND that they're requests get played right away?. I normally don't play their requests at all when they act like that.

[TonyB]

Probably another side effect of the smoking ban:D

Those that have given up are probably going through withdrawal and have the tempers to go with it.

Those that haven't given up are spending more time drinking because they can't get their nicotine fix.

Its to cold to go and stand outside, have a fag and a chat so they spend more time indoors getting hammered.

They also probably don't go out as much due to the present economic climate (and the smoking ban in pubs) so are less used to alcohol.

Changes in the education establishment. We are now seeing the effect of the lack of discipline in schools spilling over to the workplace as undisciplined school leavers are starting work.

The attitude of the government that makes this country such a miserable place to live so people are taking comfort in alcohol.

The depressing effect of the price of fuel.

Having the winners of the X factor imposed on us as entertainment.

Apart from that can't think of any other reasons but I'm sure I can come up with some more:D

[rob1963]

The attitude of the government that makes this country such a miserable place to live so people are taking comfort in alcohol.


...which has been made worse by the governemnt thanks to their changes to the licencing laws to allow all day drinking.

What a fantastic idea that was.....not

The amount of binge drinking is a very serious problem.

Firstly, we need to go back to the old licencing laws.

Secondly, we need to make drink much more expensive.

Thirdly, pubs must be more responsible & stop their crazy offers such as "All you can drink for £10"

Finally, all advertising of alcohol should be banned.

This things would at least START to solve the problem.

[CRAZY K]

Having discussed this with all my guys and several other people on here and other forums, why this year, do people appear to be getting more drunk than ever at Christmas parties?

We have had more incidents this December than I can remember before, involving drunk people, getting shirty for one reason or another (normal story - you won't play their request immediately etc), starting trouble, or knocking over and damaging gear.

People seem to go out on a company Christmas do with the sole intention of making idiots of themselves. These functions are all in Hotels, so you'd expect people to behave, but they don't.

Don't people go out the rest of the year?

I'm seriously beginning to lose my patience with drunken idiots now. Don't get me wrong - I like a beer or five, but I still know how to behave myself.

Anyone else experiencing more trouble and abuse than normal this December?

*awaits Steve's reply* ;)

Lets face it--there is now a serious drink problem in the UK which everyone knows about except the Government and its a vote loser and revenue loser to do anything about it. So dont expect any action.

Why more drinking? Alcohol is dirt cheap 24 hours a day which doesnt help.

Apart from poor parenting I wonder if this is connected to stress levels and working hours imposed on employees now.

My youngest son has just jacked in a job with a big four Accountancy Firm (admittedly not at senior level ) because of the ridiculous " targets culture" being used both by Government and Private Companies.

He had to shift x number of invoices a a day, take phone calls of complaint etc and was instructed NOT to pay invoices within agreed time scales making more people angry and phone up----one guy in his department was already off work with a nervous breakdown.

Theres no excuse for bad behaviour and as I posted today my Wedding event Saturday was awash with booze but everyone was brilliant.

I also wonder if a lot of people get drunk at home before they even get to these events--you hear a lot of reports--and lets face it---its dirt cheap.

For some people alcohol is the ONLY CHEAP OPTION TO FORGET day to day life and work that is in many case BORING--

I dont suppose soaring debt levels and the realisation that they can never be repaid doesnt help much:mad:

Whilst not on the same scale of problem--we have to make it clear to Xmas organisers that for Line Dancing which is quite popular they have to finish by say 11pm because we know whats going to happen---trying to get drunks
to respond to a few simple instructions becomes Mission Impossible---having said that theres a lot of very reasonable people out there--BUT we have to work on the basis of worst case scenario.

We have a responsibility to the guy out there working with these problems (DJ or Caller) for his safety and you have to be careful.

If im working myself I dont worry too much.

I would have to correct a statement I made earlier in a thread about gigs where people who are willing to pay more money seem more reasonable when drunk--clearly this does not apply to Corporate Xmas Parties involving "staff"

CRAZY K

[Corabar Steve]

...which has been made worse by the governemnt thanks to their changes to the licencing laws to allow all day drinking.

What a fantastic idea that was.....not

The amount of binge drinking is a very serious problem.

Firstly, we need to go back to the old licencing laws.

Secondly, we need to make drink much more expensive.

Thirdly, pubs must be more responsible & stop their crazy offers such as "All you can drink for £10"

Finally, all advertising of alcohol should be banned.

This things would at least START to solve the problem.Let's introduce curfews & bring back National Service while we're at it

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

The depressing effect of the price of fuel.



Slightly off topic, but it's just reminded me...they ran out of unleaded fuel at my local petrol station and I had to pay £1.06 per litre for some 'lower sulphor' type fuel yesterday! :eek:

[Spirits High]

The gig I did on friday was a 'works do' just outside Melton Mowbray to say they liked a drink would be an understatement!

Alot of very drunk people by about half 11, had a few of the "play my request now" dramas.

Did an "X" Factor type competition but by the time it came to the results part there was a fair bit of "unruly behaviour!"

There was a few kick offs here and there and I bet there were people not on great terms this morning back at the Office.

Hey Ho, Merry Christmas and all that!

[rob1963]

Let's introduce curfews & bring back National Service while we're at it

Not at all...but I'd be interested to hear your ideas on how you think the problem could be solved, Steve...

...unless of course you don't think there's a problem.

[CRAZY K]

Let's introduce curfews & bring back National Service while we're at it

National Service never hurt any one and it might introduce some respect.

But thats back to my point--poor parenting.

Sadly of course some of the worst offenders with Alcohol problems are--

The Armed Forces--:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I agree with the points made by everyone--a general drop in standards of life---starting at the very top--POLITICIANS.

This is a good time to sign off before I say something really nasty:mad:

CRAZY K

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Anyway, let's not try and turn this thread into a political debate about why people are getting more drunk and drinking more.

I was interested in whether others are having the same problems.

[rob1963]

I was interested in whether others are having the same problems.

Yes.

Last night, I even had drunk people ruining my quiz night...

...and that's never happened before.

Sadly a sign of the times.

[CRAZY K]

Anyway, let's not try and turn this thread into a political debate about why people are getting more drunk and drinking more.

I was interested in whether others are having the same problems.

Bit worrying that the mainstream contributors on here that I know including Corabar, Dragonfly and Teardrop Handles Rob all seem to have noticed the problem as well--I dont work in the Xmas Party market so not an issue for me, although I do pass work on.

What next, minders for the DJ?

CRAZY K

[Excalibur]

...which has been made worse by the governemnt thanks to their changes to the licencing laws to allow all day drinking.

What a fantastic idea that was.....not

The amount of binge drinking is a very serious problem.

Firstly, we need to go back to the old licencing laws.

Secondly, we need to make drink much more expensive.

Thirdly, pubs must be more responsible & stop their crazy offers such as "All you can drink for £10"

Finally, all advertising of alcohol should be banned.

This things would at least START to solve the problem.


Actually Rob, that is a knee jerk reaction, and though I can see where it comes from, I think it would be counter productive. What is needed is a culture where loutish drunken behaviour is not tolerated, and drinking is a relaxed and social pastime. It happens on the continent, and would take at least twenty years to filter through here if at all.:(

PS Many years ago a pub near us had a policy of " If you're a customer, I'm open !". You've never seen such well behaved customers leaving, as we didn't want to do anything to draw attention to ourselves, or queer our pitch! All day drinking per se is not the cause of bad behaviour. It's the attitude society takes which is the problem.:(

[rob1963]

Actually Rob, that is a knee jerk reaction, and though I can see where it comes from, I think it would be counter productive. (

We'll have to agree to disagree then, Excalibur...as I stand by what I said, and it was not a knee jerk reaction, but something I've been thinking about ever since I first saw a television show about this problem.

You say that all day drinking is not the cause of bad behaviour, so why do all the figures show that bad behaviour & excessive drinking have got worse since the licencing laws changed?

Do you really think it's just coincidence and there is some other reason?

It's a fact that if you reduce access to something AND make it more expensive, consumption will reduce.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

This year I agree is definitely the worst for drunken idiots with attitude, not totally sure why to be honest? I'm getting really fed up with it to tell you the truth and the incident with the guy the other night that I mentioned in another thread has really put me off but it's a case of 'grin and bear it' I think as it's a busy time of the year and a good earner before the quiet period at the beginning of next year.
Don't get me wrong, I love doing what I do and I know for a fact that a lot of people I know are very jealous of me but they all think it's a case of turning up and putting a few cd's on and getting paid well for it. They don't realise that there is a skill to it, there is abuse received and there's also a lot of lugging gear about and actual physical effort too.

The guy from the other night was totally embarassed and apologetic the next day when I saw him outside the hotel. I hated the sight of him at the time and all that was running through my mind was "If I wasn't working and we were in the same situation where he spoke to me like a piece of the proverbial, he would most definitely not have that cheesy, sickly little grin on his face"...I guess a lot of us think like that (maybe?) but you MUST keep your cool. If I would've done something about it...even the day after whilst having a 'word' with him, it only takes a few questions from him to find out who I am, who I work for etc..and bangs goes a residency.

It's all very well apologising too AFTERWARDS and saying that "I was so drunk I didn't know what I was doing.." etc but does that make it all better? Did I forgive him because he spoilt a potentially very enjoyable night for me? NO WAY!! It's no excuse whatsoever in my opinion. That's the problem, some of the nicest people I know are absolute evil idiots when they've had a few beers and act like Mr Idiot did at the party and then the next day, think it's ok to apologise and everyone will forget.

Companies should stop the free bars in my view (although they probably claim it all back as expenses in their accounts), as it just encourages everyone to get absolutely wrecked big time. Should the day ever arrive when my gear gets trashed because of some idiot...well, I would hate to think what I would do....Insurance or no insurance...it's called lack of respect in my book. I treat everyone how I want to be treated and I expect people to have a bit of decency and do the same with me...if they can't do that then they have a problem.

[Excalibur]

We'll have to agree to disagree then, Excalibur...as I stand by what I said, and it was not a knee jerk reaction, but something I've been thinking about ever since I first saw a television show about this problem.

You say that all day drinking is not the cause of bad behaviour, so why do all the figures show that bad behaviour & excessive drinking have got worse since the licencing laws changed?

Do you really think it's just coincidence and there is some other reason?

It's a fact that if you reduce access to something AND make it more expensive, consumption will reduce.

No jokes, and no offence Rob, bit I feel we will not meet here. All day drinking is not in itself a cause of bad behaviour. What if society as a whole shunned people who regularly got drunk and behaved badly? Until that happens, no amount of bans and price increases will help to improve behaviour. Some of my mates have parties in summer, and serious drinking is indulged in for a long time. This in itself does not cause bad behaviour, because it would not be tolerated.

Even if it's something I may disapprove of, I fervently disagree with bans and restrictions.

[rob1963]

No jokes, and no offence Rob, bit I feel we will not meet here.

Excalibur,

I understand your feelings, and certainly have not taken offence to any of your comments.

As you say, we will have to agree to disagree here.

After all, you can't expect old farts like us to agree ALL the time!

:rolleyes:

[Excalibur]

Excalibur,

I understand your feelings, and certainly have not taken offence to any of your comments.

As you say, we will have to agree to disagree here.

After all, you can't expect old farts like us to agree ALL the time!

:rolleyes:

Where I suspect we do agree, is that we would both like to see an improvement in behaviour, and more respect for people and property. The disagreement is in how we get there.;) :)

[rob1963]

Where I suspect we do agree, is that we would both like to see an improvement in behaviour, and more respect for people and property. The disagreement is in how we get there.;) :)

Absolutely!

:)

[funkymike]

having done a load of xmas parties this year, direct and through agencys i'm cheesed of with hassel from drunks, male or female and i have to say its got to the point that frankly is it really worth it?

People in this country are so fed up with evryday life i think they use the free bars just to forget about it for a few hours and i'm sure not many really remember what they said or did. A friend of mine had his shure cordless mic snatched out of his hand and smashed on the floor all for the sake of someone singing on the karaoke out of tune!

So until that changes i'm going to take next December off or pack up for good, its sole distroying to put your heart and money into something for drunks to ruin.

mike

[Corabar Steve]

We'll have to agree to disagree then, Excalibur...as I stand by what I said, and it was not a knee jerk reaction, but something I've been thinking about ever since I first saw a television show about this problem.

You say that all day drinking is not the cause of bad behaviour, so why do all the figures show that bad behaviour & excessive drinking have got worse since the licencing laws changed?

Do you really think it's just coincidence and there is some other reason?

It's a fact that if you reduce access to something AND make it more expensive, consumption will reduce.


No jokes, and no offence Rob, bit I feel we will not meet here. All day drinking is not in itself a cause of bad behaviour. What if society as a whole shunned people who regularly got drunk and behaved badly? Until that happens, no amount of bans and price increases will help to improve behaviour. Some of my mates have parties in summer, and serious drinking is indulged in for a long time. This in itself does not cause bad behaviour, because it would not be tolerated.

Even if it's something I may disapprove of, I fervently disagree with bans and restrictions.

The Laws you are refering to that were repealed in the 80s, 90s & last year were only introduced during WW1 as an emergency measure. There wasn't anywhere near as much agro in the days before the restrictions were introduced, because if anyone was out of order they were dealt with.

The problem as I see it is a the acceptance of "yob culture" & the fact that if somebody is out of order, you can't put them in their place (even reasonable force can be called into question these days).

It has nothing to do with all day drinking. I frequently attend bike rallies where alcohol is freely available 24 hours a day. There is never any major trouble & if anything does kick off from some drunk idiot then it is dealt with swiftly & effectively (a show of force is usually all that is needed). People eventually realise they were in the wrong.

To say it's just down to the availability of alcoholic drink is foolish, it's more like the fact that people have realised that they don't have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Something the idiot that I had to deal with on Saturday will find isn't true when his company receives the bill for repairs. We are pursuing the hotel for the details of which company was at the table involved & will be seeking recompense (via the hotel)(if necessary I will go to their workplace to identify the person concerned).

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

So until that changes i'm going to take next December off or pack up for good, its sole distroying to put your heart and money into something for drunks to ruin.



It's a shame, but I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.

I really hope that not many drunken idiots will force DJs to do that.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

(if necessary I will go to their workplace to identify the person concerned).

With a big stick? :D :eek: :D

[Corabar Steve]

I don't need a stick

[CRAZY K]

No jokes, and no offence Rob, bit I feel we will not meet here. All day drinking is not in itself a cause of bad behaviour. What if society as a whole shunned people who regularly got drunk and behaved badly? Until that happens, no amount of bans and price increases will help to improve behaviour. Some of my mates have parties in summer, and serious drinking is indulged in for a long time. This in itself does not cause bad behaviour, because it would not be tolerated.

Even if it's something I may disapprove of, I fervently disagree with bans and restrictions.

So excluding your friends who are impeccably behaved, PROBABLY LIKE ME AND YOU we just let the rest of the drunken louts and yobs and criminals do what they like:eek: :eek: :eek:

Whats wrong with society shunning morons who cant adhere to reasonable behaviour?

CRAZY K

[Excalibur]

The Laws you are refering to that were repealed in the 80s, 90s & last year were only introduced during WW1 as an emergency measure. There wasn't anywhere near as much agro in the days before the restrictions were introduced, because if anyone was out of order they were dealt with.

The problem as I see it is a the acceptance of "yob culture" & the fact that if somebody is out of order, you can't put them in their place (even reasonable force can be called into question these days).

It has nothing to do with all day drinking. I frequently attend bike rallies where alcohol is freely available 24 hours a day. There is never any major trouble & if anything does kick off from some drunk idiot then it is dealt with swiftly & effectively (a show of force is usually all that is needed). People eventually realise they were in the wrong.

To say it's just down to the availability of alcoholic drink is foolish, it's more like the fact that people have realised that they don't have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Something the idiot that I had to deal with on Saturday will find isn't true when his company receives the bill for repairs. We are pursuing the hotel for the details of which company was at the table involved & will be seeking recompense (via the hotel)(if necessary I will go to their workplace to identify the person concerned).

Oh dear, I find myself agreeing with Steve. That will never do!:p :D

[CRAZY K]

having done a load of xmas parties this year, direct and through agencys i'm cheesed of with hassel from drunks, male or female and i have to say its got to the point that frankly is it really worth it?

People in this country are so fed up with evryday life i think they use the free bars just to forget about it for a few hours and i'm sure not many really remember what they said or did. A friend of mine had his shure cordless mic snatched out of his hand and smashed on the floor all for the sake of someone singing on the karaoke out of tune!

So until that changes i'm going to take next December off or pack up for good, its sole distroying to put your heart and money into something for drunks to ruin.

mike

I was serious when I suggested perhaps a minder might be required for certain of these type of events.

CRAZY K

[funkymike]

I was serious when I suggested perhaps a minder might be required for certain of these type of events.

CRAZY K

I dont need a minder but its unproffesional to beat the living C*** out of a client, well in front of the other guests at least:D

[sleah]

The Laws you are refering to that were repealed .............
...........of which company was at the table involved & will be seeking recompense (via the hotel)(if necessary I will go to their workplace to identify the person concerned).

:clap: wise words there Steve.


I don't need a stick

I've seen the pictures, no you don't do you:eek: :D :D :boxer2:

Seriously I admire that you are following through with this rather than just putting it down to experience and drink.


I dont need a minder but its unproffesional to beat the living C*** out of a client, well in front of the other guests at least:D

Agreed! To be honest I wish the :Rob James: were beaten out of some of them more often, might learn some respect, and they would have something to remember the night before by:D

:handbag: :boxer2: :argue: :riceandrob: :Naughty:

meanwhile.......
:DJ: :banana: :beerchug: :corabarsteve: :Blues Brothers: :Kiss 3:

[Corabar Steve]

I dont need a minder but its unproffesional to beat the living C*** out of a client, well in front of the other guests at least:D
You have no idea how close I came to giving in to the urge on Saturday night.

[PropellerHeadCase]

Actually Rob, that is a knee jerk reaction, and though I can see where it comes from, I think it would be counter productive. What is needed is a culture where loutish drunken behaviour is not tolerated, and drinking is a relaxed and social pastime. It happens on the continent, and would take at least twenty years to filter through here if at all.:(

It's all just football hooliganism without the football. It seems that the behaviour in question has been gotten away with by the loutish end of the societal spectrum for long enough (boys will be boys, etc.) that it's now creeping up the social order (not to sound classist or anything).

If you want to blame the UK government then explain why the binge-drinking issue is the same (if not worse) here in NZ.

Ironically feminism/women's lib/call it what you will has allowed women to compete on a more level playing field (as is appropriate), unfortunately that has flowed across to less admirable pursuits like drinking... physiologically women can not handle alcohol as well as men (a by-product of both average body-mass and proportion of water in the body), but many young women are trying to surpass the lads in that arena, too. Unfortunately any lesson learnt is after being taken advantage of when impaired, or a legal or medical tangle due to excessive alcohol.

I know I bang on about spelling and grammar (:bang: ) but I do believe that pride in one's abilities (including educational achievement) has been subsumed by the chasing of unrealistic and unattainable goals (wealth and fame foremost amongst them), moreso since the advent of 24-hour TV (and Idol and X-Factor), the internet, and the dumbing-down of the educational system ("you haven't failed, you've just not done quite so well"), and that this has led to teenage angsty depression developing into full-blown (undiagnosed) clinical depression in far more people at a far younger age. The reality shock attendant to the first year out of school (or the first year out of uni) is literally driving people to drink (and there are less barriers, socially, to doing so).

Unfortunately any measures taken to limit people's access to alcohol will have exactly the same outcome as it did during prohibition - illegal and (more)dangerous drinking practices. That said, all venues need to be far more vigilant in ejecting drunk punters rather than just refusing to serve them (as, lets face it, their colleagues are quite happy to enable them in the Xmas party scenario).

Enforce the drink driving and drunk and disorderly laws more thoroughly and the message might sink in. Though whilst Paris, Lindsay and Britney (and even Kiefer, for goodness sake) are seen to, relatively speaking, get away with it (and certainly glamorise it) it's just another part of the fame and fortune dream that people can successfully emulate.

[Excalibur]

You have no idea how close I came to giving in to the urge on Saturday night.

Oh yes we have. There but for the grace of God.........................;)

[BeerFunk]

The amount of binge drinking is a very serious problem.

Firstly, we need to go back to the old licencing laws.
By it's very definition, binge drinking can only exist where time constraints are in place, encouraging the person to get drunk quickly.


Secondly, we need to make drink much more expensive.Yes and no - yes, stop the ridiculously tempting 'any drink for £1' deals, but the average price of a pint down the local isn't exactly 'cheap' right now, in my opinion.


Finally, all advertising of alcohol should be banned.If you look at the offending parties, I can't see how that would help really? Maybe it would in some cases, like those WKD ads (although I do find some of them amusing!)


The Laws you are refering to that were repealed in the 80s, 90s & last year were only introduced during WW1 as an emergency measure. There wasn't anywhere near as much agro in the days before the restrictions were introduced, because if anyone was out of order they were dealt with.

The problem as I see it is a the acceptance of "yob culture" & the fact that if somebody is out of order, you can't put them in their place (even reasonable force can be called into question these days).

It has nothing to do with all day drinking. I frequently attend bike rallies where alcohol is freely available 24 hours a day. There is never any major trouble & if anything does kick off from some drunk idiot then it is dealt with swiftly & effectively (a show of force is usually all that is needed). People eventually realise they were in the wrong.

To say it's just down to the availability of alcoholic drink is foolish, it's more like the fact that people have realised that they don't have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Something the idiot that I had to deal with on Saturday will find isn't true when his company receives the bill for repairs. We are pursuing the hotel for the details of which company was at the table involved & will be seeking recompense (via the hotel)(if necessary I will go to their workplace to identify the person concerned).


It's all just football hooliganism without the football. It seems that the behaviour in question has been gotten away with by the loutish end of the societal spectrum for long enough (boys will be boys, etc.) that it's now creeping up the social order (not to sound classist or anything).

If you want to blame the UK government then explain why the binge-drinking issue is the same (if not worse) here in NZ.

Ironically feminism/women's lib/call it what you will has allowed women to compete on a more level playing field (as is appropriate), unfortunately that has flowed across to less admirable pursuits like drinking... physiologically women can not handle alcohol as well as men (a by-product of both average body-mass and proportion of water in the body), but many young women are trying to surpass the lads in that arena, too. Unfortunately any lesson learnt is after being taken advantage of when impaired, or a legal or medical tangle due to excessive alcohol.

I know I bang on about spelling and grammar (:bang: ) but I do believe that pride in one's abilities (including educational achievement) has been subsumed by the chasing of unrealistic and unattainable goals (wealth and fame foremost amongst them), moreso since the advent of 24-hour TV (and Idol and X-Factor), the internet, and the dumbing-down of the educational system ("you haven't failed, you've just not done quite so well"), and that this has led to teenage angsty depression developing into full-blown (undiagnosed) clinical depression in far more people at a far younger age. The reality shock attendant to the first year out of school (or the first year out of uni) is literally driving people to drink (and there are less barriers, socially, to doing so).

Unfortunately any measures taken to limit people's access to alcohol will have exactly the same outcome as it did during prohibition - illegal and (more)dangerous drinking practices. That said, all venues need to be far more vigilant in ejecting drunk punters rather than just refusing to serve them (as, lets face it, their colleagues are quite happy to enable them in the Xmas party scenario).

Enforce the drink driving and drunk and disorderly laws more thoroughly and the message might sink in. Though whilst Paris, Lindsay and Britney (and even Kiefer, for goodness sake) are seen to, relatively speaking, get away with it (and certainly glamorise it) it's just another part of the fame and fortune dream that people can successfully emulate.
I agree with just about all of that, well done you pair! :D

I was waiting for someone to make a reasonable and justified statement, rather than shout for bans to everything, or how the smoking ban causes everything.

[Excalibur]

So excluding your friends who are impeccably behaved, PROBABLY LIKE ME AND YOU we just let the rest of the drunken louts and yobs and criminals do what they like:eek: :eek: :eek:

Whats wrong with society shunning morons who cant adhere to reasonable behaviour?

CRAZY K

Nothing Alan. You did realise that I was advocating that, didn't you? If it was unclear, then I apologise.

[Penfold42]

Don't get me wrong - I like a beer or five, but I still know how to behave myself.
I'm what you call in the trade....a happy drunk....yes i have a few and let my hair down......then spend the rest of the night laughing and having a good time..........
Glad i'm that way to......:)


I got my first bit of abuse Sat night .... the first time for ages ... infact this year as I can remember.

What really annoyed me was he said his piece calling me several things then went to the toilet and came straight back and called me them again with hand gestures ... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I do not however tolerate this in any capacity and made sure his bosses knew what had been said/done. :D :D :D :D :D
Sorry Dave........:o
I'll find out when i'm back at work.....not nice for anyone......:)


You have no idea how close I came to giving in to the urge on Saturday night.
I've read the other thread.....sorry to hear that....but at least you did'nt stoop to there level.........for what it's worth - well done......pro to the end......:)

[Excalibur]

By it's very definition, binge drinking can only exist where time constraints are in place, encouraging the person to get drunk quickly.

In my opinion, too many people now appear to go out simply with the intention of getting as drunk as possible, as quickly as possible. Time constraints are not the limiting factor.




I was waiting for someone to make a reasonable and justified statement, rather than shout for bans to everything, or how the smoking ban causes everything.

Miss this did we?




Even if it's something I may disapprove of, I fervently disagree with bans and restrictions.

[CRAZY K]

I dont need a minder but its unproffesional to beat the living C*** out of a client, well in front of the other guests at least:D

I was thinking of someone who could intervene on your behalf so you dont get involved and remain professional.

Your minder could take care of things whilst you continue the show--im sure we are often capable of looking after ourselves but its its better if someone else helps.

Like the guy who had the mike snatched perhaps the minder would be able to stop that.

Maybe a bit extreme but on your own its very difficult.

Certainly when we used to cover a really dodgy Youth Club in Kilburn my partner used to come along as support ( as in DJ partner) and be ready for aggro.

My most frightening experience( probably early 80s) was a guy on DRUGS which may also be coming into play here.

Now thats really bad news--totally uncontrollable--my DJ friend gave him a good pasting but it took all his family -four people -to hold him down and eject him whilst apologising--nice Hotel--nasty people.

I think we hadnt played "his record" :eek:

CRAZY K

[PropellerHeadCase]

I agree with just about all of that, well done you pair! :D

I was waiting for someone to make a reasonable and justified statement, rather than shout for bans to everything, or how the smoking ban causes everything.

Why, thank you! :D

[BeerFunk]

Miss this did we?My apologies, I didn't read the posts at the end of the 2nd page for some reason :o

[Excalibur]

My apologies, I didn't read the posts at the end of the 2nd page for some reason :o

:thumbs_up:

[Vibrant Sounds]

At my gig on Friday night I had a drunk, rather rotund, not the prettiest girl (drunk, rather ugly, fat chick) pester me most of the night, to play her songs, let her win the Thorntons chocolate prize (3rd prize in the karaoke competition) and kiss me, in the interests of piece and quiet I offered my cheek, next thing she is forcibly pulling my head around I managed to pull away, and I said jokingly I don't do lips on the first meeting as I am a gentleman. She staggered off back to her seat.:angel:

About half an hour later she is back, even more drunk, "I want a kiss on the lips" she says, sorry I said "I'm busy at the moment", next thing I'm traveling back wards as she has pulled me towards her, ripped my shirt and trying to plant one (a kiss) on me. I managed to pull free and told her to GO AWAY (okay that was not actually the words I used but you get the drift), she waddled away and about 10 minutes later fell flat on her face, her mates struggled to get her up and then took her home. Worst I have ever experienced, tantamount to molestation! Now if this had been a bloke acting like this to a woman they would probably have been arrested and charged.:police:

Now for those of you that know me, god alone knows what she was thinking, have you ever envisaged two weebles having sex :eek:

Week before, I was offered <EDIT: something naughty> by a rather drunk niceish looking late 20s blond if I let her win the first prize in the karaoke (night for 2 with breakfast at the hotel, worth about £150), I laughed it off, and she said "no I'm serious, come outside now and I'll do it, I can give the prize to my boyfriend for Christmas" :whistle:

Looking forward to next week:sofa:

[PropellerHeadCase]

Please note, Darren, I am resisting the urge to correct a seriously amusing spelling error in that last post :p Someone please put me out of my misery :eek:

[Excalibur]

Looking forward to next week:sofa:

Hey Rob! I've realised why we don't get chatted up. We obviously need to do Karaoke! :eek: :D :D

[Vibrant Sounds]

Please note, Darren, I am resisting the urge to correct a seriously amusing spelling error in that last post :p Someone please put me out of my misery :eek:


Where??????

[PropellerHeadCase]

Suffice to say that "blond" is the masculine and "blonde" is the feminine ;)

[Danno13]

Only in french though surely??

[PropellerHeadCase]

Not according to Chambers Dictionary, no.

[rob1963]

Hey Rob! I've realised why we don't get chatted up. We obviously need to do Karaoke! :eek: :D :D

*Goes off to look for karaoke equipment on ebay*

:D :D :D :D :D

[rob1963]

I just don't understand why so many people's idea of a great night out is to drink the equivilent of about 20 pints when:

1) It costs a fortune
2) They can't remember a thing about it the next day
3) They are sending themselves to an early grave

[PropellerHeadCase]

It's like when people get drunk or worse at concerts.

Did you or did you not come for the music?

[summer sounds]

My feelings are that the folk who are critical of regular boozers are normally the worst offenders at Christmas and new year...simply because they cant handle the drink!

[PropellerHeadCase]

Not guilty. Got over that when I was first flatting as a 19 year old... surgical alcohol and orange :o

[rob1963]

As I've already said, if booze was more expensive, people would drink less.

In the same way that if ciggys cost less than £6 a packet, more people would smoke.

Common sense, really.

[Excalibur]

As I've already said, if booze was more expensive, people would drink less.

In the same way that if ciggys cost less than £6 a packet, more people would smoke.

Common sense, really.

Just when we agreed, you have to go and spoil it! I don't think you can price it out of the market. People who want/need it will still buy it. It will make the French booze runs attractive again, and may even hit British retailers of drink. If the pubs/clubs start to close, some of our incomes could be hit.

PS While I remember, I did get chatted up recently!



























By a Bloke!!:eek: :eek: :( :(

[Dragonfly]

Just when we agreed, you have to go and spoil it! I don't think you can price it out of the market. People who want/need it will still buy it. It will make the French booze runs attractive again, and may even hit British retailers of drink. If the pubs/clubs start to close, some of our incomes could be hit.

PS While I remember, I did get chatted up recently!



By a Bloke!!:eek: :eek: :( :(

indeed you will not price things like this out my sister is a smoker and when at uni ended up passing out in a lecture because she gave up eatin so she could afford to smoke.

people will forego other things so they can still do it.

[Excalibur]

indeed you will not price things like this out my sister is a smoker and when at uni ended up passing out in a lecture because she gave up eatin so she could afford to smoke.

people will forego other things so they can still do it.

One nil to me, Rob.;)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Blimey, the force is strong in this topic young(ish..lol) jedi's.
I reckon if you said to 10 blokes between the ages of 20 and 40 why they get so wrecked at christmas parties, the majority would answer that it's because it's a christmas party and therefore going to be rubbish music. Most people probably don't even think of it as a time to let your hair down for the night with your work colleagues. Maybe some of them don't even want to be there in the first place and be forced to sit with people that they may not really have any interest in or people that 'talk shop' all night? I know that when I worked for a certain company a few years back, I purposely missed 2 christmas parties, not because I didn't want to have a few free beers etc but because I couldn't hack being in the same company of some of the people I worked with as I didn't like half of them. I am easy to get along with and will put a front on so that the person I don't like doesn't know I don't like them as I like an easy life without any hassle but doing that for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week was hard enough. A night on the razzle with them would have ended in disaster.

Maybe that's why some people feel the need to get wrecked because they are told they HAVE to go. It does not for one second excuse rude behaviour etc but I can see why they may get as drunk as they do. As I said a few days ago, the ladies, no matter what their age know exactly what to expect and go all out to enjoy it. The number of gorgeous girls under 25 that I have seen this year who I expected to ask for current music have all requested classic party stuff and now and then the guys will join in too.

...and maybe, some people don't even think about us lot? Maybe they just go for the food and drink and that's it? I know that seems pointless but then again, when we are stood there getting abuse from drunken idiots, it seems pointless to me aswell.

Tonight I am in Southampton for a huge college christmas ball and I am doing an hour set of Indie music. Really looking forward to it and hopefully there won't be any abuse because they are all aged between 16 and 18.

[rob1963]

PS While I remember, I did get chatted up recently!


By a Bloke!!:eek: :eek: :( :(

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Come to think of it. the same thing has happened to me at least half a dozen times over the years!

[Shakermaker Promotions]

That happened to me at the last night I did for the Gay/Lesbian community in October. The guy was bigger than me but looked scarily like me too and someone commented that it would look quite funny as we both looked like Grant and Phil Mitchell. Anyway, I showed him my ring!!!.....wait for it....my wedding ring and he walked off.

Hahaha

[rob1963]

Tonight I am in Southampton for a huge college christmas ball and I am doing an hour set of Indie music. Really looking forward to it and hopefully there won't be any abuse because they are all aged between 16 and 18.

I thought 16-18 year olds were among the worst culprits.

That's the main reason why I don't do 18ths!

[Dragonfly]

I thought 16-18 year olds were among the worst culprits.

That's the main reason why I don't do 18ths!

I did a brilliant one last night very civilised sit down meal and a couple of hours dancing at the end , every person in the room was absolutely lovely and made for a really relaxed fun gig.

but then they could afford me :D :D ;)

[rob1963]

Anyway, I showed him my ring!!!.....wait for it....my wedding ring and he walked off.

For a split second there, I was really worried about where that was going!!!

:Laugh:

[rob1963]

but then they could afford me :D :D ;)

They had plenty of change in their pockets then?

:rolleyes: :D :D :D :D :D

[CRAZY K]

They had plenty of change in their pockets then?

:rolleyes: :D :D :D :D :D

Remember the old rule--

Generally for private Functions ( not Corporate) the people paying higher fees
tend to be more reasonable to deal with, even when drunk.

Well thats how I find it anyway--

[Dragonfly]

indeed :D :D :D rob was being tongue in cheek ;) Monday night packet of walkers and a beef sanger buys me :D :D :D

[rob1963]

Monday night packet of walkers and a beef sanger buys me :D :D :D

I didn't know you'd put your prices up!

:rolleyes: :p :D :D :D

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Rob, I'm doing an hour set from 10pm - 11pm. It's Indie/Alternative as requested and all of the equipment etc is there already. I turn up, play, get my cheque and then I'll be home before midnight. There's one DJ on before me and 3 after so it's going to be easy.

[rob1963]

Rob, I'm doing an hour set from 10pm - 11pm. It's Indie/Alternative as requested and all of the equipment etc is there already. I turn up, play, get my cheque and then I'll be home before midnight. There's one DJ on before me and 3 after so it's going to be easy.

Ahhhhhh...sounds like a good one then.

Hope it goes well.

:)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I hope so mate. I'm going to take a camera too as I've heard there may well be loads of people there (the main room holds over 2000).

[rob1963]

I hope so mate. I'm going to take a camera too as I've heard there may well be loads of people there (the main room holds over 2000).

Whoaaaaaaa...that's what you call a large gig!

[Excalibur]

Remember the old rule--

Generally for private Functions ( not Corporate) the people paying higher fees
tend to be more reasonable to deal with, even when drunk.

Well thats how I find it anyway--

And just to balance the argument, as a general rule, I find the exact opposite.

[Dragonfly]

And just to balance the argument, as a general rule, I find the exact opposite.


I like being sort of in the middle , I price myself out of the 1 dole cheque and a packet of walkers gigs but know someone not a million miles away who has got a very nice payer at new year , but all things considered the whole thing has not been easy ....

they want this , they want that , they don't want this , they want this colour , they want this there even if it won't fit ... just make it fit .

i'm getting a hundred quid less than him but im in a tiny pub with a tiny set up , can go anytime on nye and leave my gear to pick up on nyd if i so wish , ive been told just a good mix of music for all the family is all that is expected.

I can well believe the saying is true of both sides very high payers and very low payers.

to sum up I find those who have had to graft to make their money often appreciate more those who do the same.

[CRAZY K]

And just to balance the argument, as a general rule, I find the exact opposite.

I have covered about 8 different counties this year all over the UK --all the same--the more they pay the better they are.

Mind you its not Disco all night--maybe thats the reason?

CRAZY K

[Excalibur]

I have covered about 8 different counties this year all over the UK --all the same--the more they pay the better they are.

Mind you its not Disco all night--maybe thats the reason?

CRAZY K

Not saying you're wrong, simply what I have found in my experience. :)

[CRAZY K]

Not saying you're wrong, simply what I have found in my experience. :)

No problem--following this vital information my My New Year Resolution has to be-----

No gigs in Yorkshire:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

CRAZY K

[rob1963]

I'm seriously thinking of taking next December off from discos...

...partly because of the extra hassle & risk of equipment damage due to more drunk punters...

...partly because my December work is always agency stuff for my mate, and he charges less than me & also takes a commission, so the pay is quite low, and I only end up with about two thirds of my normal rates...

...and partly because it would be really nice not to work, to relax & have a drink on new year's eve.....for the first time in a quarter of a century!

[Twinspin]

I told someone to GO AWAY!! last week because she was been rude to me. I said when you come back and ask nicely i will at sometime play your request.

[Excalibur]

I told someone to GO AWAY!! last week because she was been rude to me. I said when you come back and ask nicely i will at sometime play your request.

Well done that man.:) Politeness costs nothing.;)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I nearly started another topic just a second ago as I forgot about this one. Last night I came very very close to getting my head stoved in by an absolute nutter and I have decided not to go back to the venue again as it just isn't worth it.

When I got to the pub (it's somewhere I do once a month), there were 2 blokes sitting where I usually set up. As I started bringing the gear in they asked me "What the :Censored: do you think you are doing?"....I got the hump straight away but kept my mouth shut as I could see what they were like. Then one of them went to touch my speakers to move them (they were the big JBL's)..."Oi mate, leave my stuff alone!" I shouted...These 2 guys were meatheads and I know of them although up until last night I had never had the 'pleasure' of meeting them....They told me to :Censored: off as I wasn't needed and both went face to face with me and started grinning. The landlord came over and he is well known for being an old 'face' around town and is well respected, he knew them, told them to behave and they walked off to the other bar. I said to the landlord that I can't have that kind of thing happening and he said not to worry about it as they knew where they stood with him and if anything happened to me or my gear, all hell would break loose. I really felt like going home as I have a full on cold now and I don't feel great but I thought I would give it a go.

All throughout the night I felt uncomfortable. The 2 blokes were making gestures towards me from the other bar and one of them (the nuttiest one) kept coming over, staring at me and asking if he could use my mic. I kept saying no and stood my ground but then he would get really abusive. In the end I shouted at him "Why are you giving me hassle? I am trying to work" and he replied "If I was giving you hassle you would know about it" and just laughed in my face.

Now, I know that there are loads of things I could've done that have been advised on here but to stop the music and mention that I was getting hassle on this occasion would have definitely been a bad move, you had to be there to understand. The landlord always had an eye on the situation and everytime I said no to the nutter who wanted to use my mic, he would go over to the landlord and moan and look over at me. At one point he came over and asked for a tune (Al Wilson 'The Snake') and I said "Great tune mate, I'll play that for ya"...Would you believe it...typical, I couldn't find the thing and after 20 mins he came back and went full on, calling me all kinds of things and saying that all I was doing was playing cd's and anyone could do it, I was rubbish (change of word there) etc etc...I found it in the end and as soon as it came on he came rushing over to me to get my mic again...I said "You aint using it mate, I aint a karaoke tonight" and he said "You got bad attitude son"...I shouted back at him and I could feel the adrenalin in me. I was pretty worried and what with feeling ill too, I felt sick.

I went over to the landlord and asked if this was all a wind up and again he assured me that I would be ok so I took his word for it. I didn't see them for the last hour and everyone had a good time but I did make it known to the landlord that I wasn't happy as I couldn't concentrate etc...He understood and assured me again that he was watching me all the time and making sure I was ok. My main worry was that they would be waiting for me outside but they weren't.

I like DJing down that pub 99.9% of the time and feedback from the landlord and staff says that everyone loves what i do. I am going to have to ring them in the new year and tell them that I have decided not to go back due to this incident. I know that they will be gutted and I probably will go back but I am worried that these 2 blokes will come back because now they know I am an easy target for them. I must admit that last night was the first time I had seen them in the pub and they may not go back but it's just the chance that they might that bothers me.

This christmas in my opinion has been a total let down. Like most of you, I have been out almost every night and DJing non stop and I'm ill and knackered and it's not over yet. Christmas Eve at my local was excellent, not one ounce of trouble yet from what I have heard, every other venue in town had trouble big style and one venue that I do regularly had a 30 man brawl. We put ourselves in dodgy positions don't we...all we are doing is playing music and entertaining yet people have a few beers too many and want to spoil it and it makes me sick, it really does.

[pdarnett]

As a lot of people know, I dj at the Royal Armouries ever Christmas, and you're all right about people just going out with the intention of getting hammered (either by drink or colombia's national product). This year more than ever I have been grateful for the amount of event security that's been present, and there's been many nights where I've felt uneasy with the amount of aggressive drunken behaviour going on.

This came to a head the other night with a girl snatching a bottle of wine from one of the serving staff in the upstairs function room and running off towards the balcony, then slamming into the rail and ending up falling the 13m from the 1st floor onto the marble floor below, amazing she got up !! but was told to stay down until the ambulance arrived. There's not a H&S issue as the balcony rail is almost at chest height, she fell due to the sheer momentum.

She's lucky to be alive, and for what? She was absolutely wasted and wanted some more wine so nicked some off the staff, is that worth dying for?

[Kernow]

That's a nasty one Paul.

Hope it didn't cause you too much personal distress.

Rob #2

p.s don't want to make light of a frightening situation but shouldn't that be Colombia ?. Don't see many folk getting out of their head on Feature Films :eek: (and before Rob points it out I know that Messrs. Price, Lee & Cushing were often 'Hammered' ;) )

[djsteve10]

Christ paul sounds like you had abit of a bad one,
I have had people falling off stages and also falling onto tables but never off balconys.
But over the past couple of years i have noticed that the amount of xmas partys is decreasing now for some reason.

[pdarnett]

Colombia it is then, lots of people kicked out for abusing the "white stuff".

I felt sick after the balcony thing, just seems the law of "Christmas" overrides all usual sensibilities, wonder how long before she sues the Armouries for not having any safety nets.

[djsteve10]

I dont think i could of carried on dj'in after i had seen that... ok the show must go on but after you've seen that it just doesnt put you in the right thrame of mind too.

Well i was at elland road most xmas and there were alot of people doing the white stuff in the toilets. It aint a way to celebrate xmas.

[CRAZY K]

I dont think i could of carried on dj'in after i had seen that... ok the show must go on but after you've seen that it just doesnt put you in the right thrame of mind too.

Well i was at elland road most xmas and there were alot of people doing the white stuff in the toilets. It aint a way to celebrate xmas.

I guess we have all been thinking this might well be the reason for the extra trouble breaking out everywhere--

As I have said before the most violent episode I have been involved with at a Disco involved an idiot on drugs:eek: :eek: :eek:

Sadly its going to get worse--not better:mad:

CRAZY K

[Pazz]

I have just been catching up with the posts on this thread and I am glad to have read some of your comments to know that we all have been having our fair share of problems this December - glad I'm not the only one.

I had a joint 16th the other week and little did I know that the venue is notorious for fights and also there were fights going on downstairs. I got told to cut the music an hour early even though upstairs the party was swinging. Apparently the 'underage' party people were bringing in their own alcohol - and more astonishing the landlord knew this and wasn't going to stop them. Unsurprisingly the men in blue were outside afterwards as I was trying to pack away! Another one I'm glad to get away from. I might get a disco one day where I and the guests can enjoy the night in an orderly controlled environment!

I'm also a bit low after last night as I didn't get much time for my disco set - it was basically an hour to start and hour to end with a few small cameos in between. The rest of the night was taken up by a young female cabaret singer but I can't help thinking that the venue just settle for what they can get as long as they got something to entertain the paying punters. She give it a good go but to be honest wasn't very good and was more interested in the end with her broken foot pedal in trying to get it fixed than actually singing. She also had a tendency to speak too much and it didn't really appear anyone was listening to her either! But for some bizarre reason the crowd seemed to like it later on and she could do no wrong in their eyes (I can only put this down to them having had a good drink by now and not worried what was going on or what it was like!)

After 3 extra final songs from her I got on for my final part - the punters were on the dancefloor and I was mixing old and new and getting a lot of requests. Just as I was getting into it the host for the night (why have one of these is a mystery to me!) decided to pull my plug out - great! I apologised to the crowd (he didn't) - don't know why - not my fault - and continued... thankfully they were still dancing!!! Then the host insisted I finish at 12 (booked to 12:30) -he switched the lights on 3 mins early - I still had loads of requests to play BUT had to listen to Mr Host! So I finished...

Packing away then downstairs outside into the miserable night, had complaints from people who's requests I hadn't played, including one from the apparent Entertainments guy (unlikely - I hadn't seen him all night!) who said he will give me a bad name in the area and wont recommend me. Also the practical jokers kept locking the doors just as I'm trying to get out of there quickly - so all in all a quite nightmarish night. Thankfully not had too many like it this month. Trouble is I’m not looking forward to NYE as I got to do the exact same venue again!!! I hope it will be completely different or else I will just think about the money and getting it over and done with.

If a venue can't be bothered to book decent cabaret, to organise their event properly, then pull my plug out and just be miserable and complain well there's plenty better discos I can be doing. As I always say I never rely on any one venue for my bookings and also I can always add a venue to my banned list! Make this number 2 to be added in 1 month after NYE that is!

Have a happy new year everyone...

[mb3]

........Companies should stop the free bars in my view (although they probably claim it all back as expenses in their accounts), as it just encourages everyone to get absolutely wrecked big time..........


One good alternative is to give guests free drink "tokens".... maybe 3 or 4 each guest. It still means you can make the nice gesture of free drinks, but limits people to quantity.

I have seen this method used on a couple of occasions and it worked well.

[Shaun]

May I remind members.....


19. Posts relating to the following subjects are not permitted (whether in writing or image-related): Drugs, sex, pornography, excessive violence and other related or similar topics are prohibited. MDD strives to maintain a family-friendly atmosphere.

[pdarnett]

sorry, its difficult on such a topic like this where we're obvious seeing a trend with our punters to do drugs, to discuss it without actually saying "they're doing drugs" if you get what i mean.

[Shaun]

sorry, its difficult on such a topic like this where we're obvious seeing a trend with our punters to do drugs, to discuss it without actually saying "they're doing drugs" if you get what i mean.

My comment was directed moreso at another Tongue-in-cheek post that was made earlier in the topic (which has since been removed by the poster). I'm not saying that the word "drug/s" can't be used, as long as it's in the context of the post. :)

[CRAZY K]

sorry, its difficult on such a topic like this where we're obvious seeing a trend with our punters to do drugs, to discuss it without actually saying "they're doing drugs" if you get what i mean.

My apologies for using the "word" earlier but its becoming fairly obvious that the demon alcohol is not solely responsible for the bad and unacceptable behaviour that is emerging.

CRAZY K

[mutley]

yes, my pet hate raises its head yet again, again & again:bang:

i do sympathise with all concerned, this is the WORST part of the job:beer1:

but its what you DO about it that counts,

A+B=c :cool:

-get that music switched off quick so every one looks round & at the situation
-get on that mic loud volume & continue (if possible) some sort of conversation with the idiots concerned
-try to get them ejected
-abuse them back & tell them to get lost* :D or you will stop the music

if all this fails, you either play their request to shut them up or try to get back at them & dont, but then you risk a gamble of them coming up at a later stage even more drunk:beer1: trying to ask for this request
or you just stratch this off as yet ANOTHER bad night, bite your tongue & collect the payment at the end of the night bitterly.

Although extremly anooying, its the job & dare i say it, if it were not for alcohol - how many people would not have the courage to dance:attn:
but too much spells disaster.
At weddings i bet i could tell most times whether or not it was a free bar just by looking at all the half empty glasses left everywhere & by the amount of people who get up earlier than usual to dance.........