Subs

[bluishbob]

Hey all,
So all this talk of subs lately has gotten me thinking.

In the new year i will be looking at the bass end of my set up.

I have been bouncing around with the idea of making my own subs.

Now my logic is that i would like a cab of about 500watts RMS, now the nearest cab i can think of to this is the wharfedale EVP-X15B (400 watts), and these are about £350 new (about 250 second hand).

Now in respect to drivers, i like the look of the Eminence Kappa 15c (500watts, £75 each new), but was wondering if they would be good enough.

But i know i can get a set of B&C of the same size for £100 each new.

I think i could build the cabs for about £50-60.

So what do you think?
Is it worth it?

I know the B&C would be well worth it, but would it really be worth the extra £50?

By the time i have spent £250 ish, could i have bought a secon hand pair of 500watt cabs?

Let me know what you think

Many thanks
Jamie

[Paul James Promotions]

Apart from the obvious satisfaction from knowing you've built your own cabinets, the usual reason for self built boxes is that you can get better results for your money. So, yes it is worth spending more on a top end driver, and the selection will depend on the size and type of enclosure you wish to build.

[bluishbob]

oh yes, forgot to mention that....I will go for a regular 15inch reflex cab if i was to build one.

I have a good selection of tools etc, but being the 1st time i want to keep it simple.

[Tom]

jamie, does this work for the much louder driver thats around the 1000 watts rms mark???

[Paul James Promotions]

jamie, does this work for the much louder driver thats around the 1000 watts rms mark???

Don't quite understand what you mean :confused:

[Tom]

Don't quite understand what you mean :confused:

ahh. what i mean is if i build myself a large pa system where the bass cabs would have 1000 watt drivers, would i still get a better sound from where if i bought a sub from a named brand.

[Paul James Promotions]

ahh. what i mean is if i build myself a large pa system where the bass cabs would have 1000 watt drivers, would i still get a better sound from where if i bought a sub from a named brand.

There's no reason you shouldn't get better results, or rather equal results for less money, providing you do a good job on the build.

[Tom]

ok. cheers jamie. anyway back to the other jamie. :lol:

[CRAZY K]

Hey all,
So all this talk of subs lately has gotten me thinking.

In the new year i will be looking at the bass end of my set up.

I have been bouncing around with the idea of making my own subs.

Now my logic is that i would like a cab of about 500watts RMS, now the nearest cab i can think of to this is the wharfedale EVP-X15B (400 watts), and these are about £350 new (about 250 second hand).

Now in respect to drivers, i like the look of the Eminence Kappa 15c (500watts, £75 each new), but was wondering if they would be good enough.

But i know i can get a set of B&C of the same size for £100 each new.

I think i could build the cabs for about £50-60.

So what do you think?
Is it worth it?

I know the B&C would be well worth it, but would it really be worth the extra £50?

By the time i have spent £250 ish, could i have bought a secon hand pair of 500watt cabs?

Let me know what you think

Many thanks
Jamie

If your buying Peavey Pro 15s why dont you buy what we suggested before--the Peavey Subs--they are cheap, should be an exact colour and grille match to the Pro 15s, have a filter unit built in thats matched to the pro 15s and you can drive them with ONE 1000 watt peavey Amp.

Which is exactly what I do ( Vectis Vibe as well)

Decent sound for the money.

No need to build your own or come on here asking about mismatching impedances, crossovers and all that stuff!!!!!!!!

Will people appreciate the difference in sound from your cabs as opposed to Peaveys?

CRAZY K

[Excalibur]

If your buying Peavey Pro 15s why dont you buy what we suggested before--the Peavey Subs--they are cheap, should be an exact colour and grille match to the Pro 15s, have a filter unit built in thats matched to the pro 15s and you can drive them with ONE 1000 watt peavey Amp.

Which is exactly what I do ( Vectis Vibe as well)

Decent sound for the money.

No need to build your own or come on here asking about mismatching impedances, crossovers and all that stuff!!!!!!!!

Will people appreciate the difference in sound from your cabs as opposed to Peaveys?

CRAZY K


Agreed, matching kit looks so impressive to the customer, more so than a set of selfbuild, which may perform better, but could look a bit naff. Our business relies a lot on appearance, and matching PA is one area where you can do this. Also, as Alan says, you know the kit will match physically as well.

[Vectis]

If your buying Peavey Pro 15s why dont you buy what we suggested before--the Peavey Subs--they are cheap, should be an exact colour and grille match to the Pro 15s, have a filter unit built in thats matched to the pro 15s and you can drive them with ONE 1000 watt peavey Amp.

Which is exactly what I do ( Vectis Vibe as well)

Decent sound for the money.

No need to build your own or come on here asking about mismatching impedances, crossovers and all that stuff!!!!!!!!

Will people appreciate the difference in sound from your cabs as opposed to Peaveys?

CRAZY K


I'll second that... the Prosub's are really quite good especially when you look at the price. OK so "only" 400W but I get away with one (under the deckstand) for all but the largest venues when I wheel out a second. And at least half my gigs are kids/youth club type in big rooms with a demanding audience.

I use the Prosub-P's (active version circa £230) rather than passive and the Behringer EP2500 amp driving a pair of Pro-15's on tripods.

For very large/outdoor gigs I'll put on a second pair of Pro-15's with a second amp. I can count on one hand the number of times this happened in the last year though.

[Excalibur]

I'll second that... the Prosub's are really quite good especially when you look at the price. OK so "only" 400W but I get away with one (under the deckstand) for all but the largest venues when I wheel out a second. And at least half my gigs are kids/youth club type in big rooms with a demanding audience.

I use the Prosub-P's (active version circa £230) rather than passive and the Behringer EP2500 amp driving a pair of Pro-15's on tripods.

For very large/outdoor gigs I'll put on a second pair of Pro-15's with a second amp. I can count on one hand the number of times this happened in the last year though.

All of that is completely logical, and I agree with it wholeheartedly. May I just put my fourpennorth in regarding this: If you have a pair of subs under your tops, and poles connecting them, you remove the danger of the trip hazard of a tripod leg. Also, where space is an issue, subs have a smaller footprint than tripods. You may not need the subs as a sound feature, but they can be more use as a stand.