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daz226
31-12-2007, 04:57 AM
well guys the new year is off to a flyer booked fully jan and half of feb.....
only thing is in jan i have a 16th /39th bday party with over 250 comming now as i have just started out i am bricking my self with this one.
the 16yr ol wants rnb and dance whilst the 39 wants 60's 70's 80's 90's all of which i can do but i have not yet had the pleasure of pleasing so many peeps at one time.its the 18th jan so ill keep ya posted as to how i do but b4 i did any disco i was worried got past that then played to 100 + got past that 150 was next so why am i worried about 250 + god knows
btw if any one can surgest good dj one liners ( clean) that i can throw in during the evening then i will be forever in your debt
regards daz
BrightLights
31-12-2007, 09:44 AM
Seems odd to combine two quite different events. Are the 16 year old and 39 year old related?
It's tricky to please everyone when the crowd's tastes are divided into two groups, but you often find that if you choose your music carefully you can play a few tracks to please one group, a few to please the other, and something in between to please everyone. Just because the booking says something specific doesn't mean all the guests will only like/dance to that style - mix it up a bit and you'll be fine :)
rob1963
31-12-2007, 11:06 AM
Seems odd to combine two quite different events.
I'm not so sure about that.
Earlier this year I did a combined 18th birthday, 21st birthday, 60th birthday & 30th wedding anniversary...and it was an absolute blinder!
Kernow
31-12-2007, 11:43 AM
Hi daz
You needn't worry at all, after all you've been given a godsent opportunity to play right across the range. ;)
My suggestion, based on similar situations is:
Start with 'Pop Party' type stuff to wear out the kids and give the adults a chance to chat/drink, this will be to your advantage later :rolleyes:
Follow with a set of 70/80/90 tunes till the 'older' ones need a rest and then some R'nB/Dance to refill the floor.
Finally finish with half an hour or so of Classic Party stuff and a couple of 'end of night' smoochies.
Hope you have a great night
Rob #2
Finally keep
theoloyla
31-12-2007, 02:37 PM
Thats right! Provided the birthday people both realise that you are not going to play "their" music all night and are going to try to mix it up and play something for everyone then you can have a great night.
daz226
02-01-2008, 04:29 PM
yes i just need to go buy the latest rnb and dance as all the past bookings i have had its all been 60's 70' that kind of thing.
I was worried also about my powered mixer as its not that powerfull so just bought a Behringer Europower PMP2000 powered mixer for a small box it does quite a lot and as this is quite a large room i felt i need the extra ommf but that got me thinking about my speakers. I may also get some better ones than the ones i have now and also get them up on stands its just knowing what to get.
Being new to all this the buying of new equipment is like a minefield to me
DJ James Lake
02-01-2008, 06:01 PM
Being new to all this the buying of new equipment is like a minefield to me
If your any doubt about equipment have a chat with your local dj shop and hire different types until you find what you are happy with.
A lot of small shops will arrange to knock the hire cost off the purchase price if you decide to buy.
250 people you will certainly need a bigger pa system without a doubt.
daz226
02-01-2008, 06:49 PM
bigger than what i have just bought u mean ....hope not lol i did a lot of checking on this model and it should work fine for what i need at the mo towards summer ill be going the seperate amp mixer route this is just a get me by till then solution
Shaun
02-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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Daz, Please take a moment to read through the forum rules. the use of 'text language' isn't permitted on the forum.
daz226
02-01-2008, 07:02 PM
ok sorry about that :rolleyes:
DJWilson
02-01-2008, 07:03 PM
in a scenario like this your could play 80's and 90's music such as 'floorfillers club classics' and 'floorfiller anthems' the youth like the bass and the older generation like the memorys of there youth
PropellerHeadCase
02-01-2008, 08:15 PM
I'd try and organise to speak to as many of the involved people (guests of honour, particularly, if possible) and get a feel what they want whilst also making sure you let them know the potential difficultis inherent in playing to two so divergent age-groups.
DJ James Lake
02-01-2008, 10:14 PM
bigger than what i have just bought u mean ....hope not lol i did a lot of checking on this model and it should work fine for what i need at the mo towards summer ill be going the seperate amp mixer route this is just a get me by till then solution
Your amp is seriously underpowered for this type of function. These are built for very small bands certainly not DJ use.
Behringer Europower PMP2000
8ohm per channel 165w rms
4ohm per channel 250w rms
The amp is very likely to overheat and cut out. You also run the risk of blowing speakers through distortion if you run it hard, which you will have to with 250 people believe me.
PropellerHeadCase
02-01-2008, 10:35 PM
I did a gig for a wedding of 230 guests with a sound system that runs at 2500W (peak) in quite a big room and it sounded pretty good with the tops as high as my stand would go, for throw and my sub in a corner (for acoustic boosting).
To clarify - my system is 1500W on top and a 1000W sub - with the mixer peaking at zero I had my top end two clicks short of half, and my sub two clicks above half (as the sub is a little underpowered for the system) - balance and sound was good... no distortion.
daz226
03-01-2008, 02:06 AM
Your amp is seriously underpowered for this type of function. These are built for very small bands certainly not DJ use.
Behringer Europower PMP2000
8ohm per channel 165w rms
4ohm per channel 250w rms
The amp is very likely to overheat and cut out. You also run the risk of blowing speakers through distortion if you run it hard, which you will have to with 250 people believe me.
ok i need to look at the options available to me and work out the best possible solution to this many thanks
DJ James Lake
03-01-2008, 12:28 PM
ok i need to look at the options available to me and work out the best possible solution to this many thanks
You are welcome, thats what the forum is for.
JAMdisco
03-01-2008, 03:13 PM
Don't forget though, generally at disco's you'll have some sort of dancefloor - you aren't necessarilly entertaining all 250 guests. Some will want to talk and therefore if it's too loud you'll just pee them off. If the venue does have a dancefloor, provided the sound covers that area well it should be ok.
Dragonfly
03-01-2008, 03:24 PM
Don't forget though, generally at disco's you'll have some sort of dancefloor - you aren't necessarilly entertaining all 250 guests. Some will want to talk and therefore if it's too loud you'll just pee them off. If the venue does have a dancefloor, provided the sound covers that area well it should be ok.
very true ... i have this year changed the way i think .... Unless asked to do so I advertise and tell people that my sound and lighting is directed to those on the dancefloor as it is my belief it is those that are paying most attention to the music.
i had one guy at xmas ask me to turn it up which i thought was strange as everything was at around 3/4 volume .... so i told him not really i felt it was loud enough for people .....
"well we cant hear the music outside at the bar" (out of the room and down a corridor and the doors were kept shut by the venue.)
"mmmm well thats easily rectified isnt it?"
daz226
03-01-2008, 04:09 PM
yes i think ill be ok this will be my biggest gig so i guess i am a little nervous but as yet i have never had any complaints so i dont know why the nerves are setting in.
Its all good
Excalibur
03-01-2008, 04:17 PM
I did a gig for a wedding of 230 guests with a sound system that runs at 2500W (peak) in quite a big room and it sounded pretty good with the tops as high as my stand would go, for throw and my sub in a corner (for acoustic boosting).
To clarify - my system is 1500W on top and a 1000W sub - with the mixer peaking at zero I had my top end two clicks short of half, and my sub two clicks above half (as the sub is a little underpowered for the system) - balance and sound was good... no distortion.
Darren, can we have a smilie for " Willy Waving" ? :confused: :D :D
ok i need to look at the options available to me and work out the best possible solution to this many thanks
Beg, borrow, hire, just don't buy till you know exactly what you need/want.
Don't forget though, generally at disco's you'll have some sort of dancefloor - you aren't necessarilly entertaining all 250 guests. Some will want to talk and therefore if it's too loud you'll just pee them off. If the venue does have a dancefloor, provided the sound covers that area well it should be ok.
Absolutely true:)
very true ... i have this year changed the way i think .... Unless asked to do so I advertise and tell people that my sound and lighting is directed to those on the dancefloor as it is my belief it is those that are paying most attention to the music.
i had one guy at xmas ask me to turn it up which i thought was strange as everything was at around 3/4 volume .... so i told him not really i felt it was loud enough for people .....
"well we cant hear the music outside at the bar" (out of the room and down a corridor and the doors were kept shut by the venue.)
"mmmm well thats easily rectified isnt it?"
You can't compete with that level of genius! :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:
Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Darren, can we have a smilie for " Willy Waving" ? :confused: :D :D
Possibly not....:eek:
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