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spin mobile disco
03-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Been looking at updating a couple of lights on my rig and decided I needed a couple with good floor coverage and bright enough to be striking.
Saw some one else using a couple of twister 4's at the weekend and they seemed pretty brights and covered the dance floor well. Unfortunantly I find them a bit on the expencive side for my current finances so if anyone can suggest similar lights for cheaper pennies it would be appreciated.
Things I would like would be.
1. Bright
2. Reliable
3. Linkable or dmx able
4. Good floor or room filler
5. Say budget of £250 for 2 lights give or take

Any suggestions would be nice

Thanks

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2008, 09:59 PM
Impossibleds?

Dragonfly
03-01-2008, 11:00 PM
Impossibleds?

rock !!!! and illuminate large areas such as north London

well well worth the investment !!!!

Paul James Promotions
03-01-2008, 11:01 PM
Datamoon?

Dragonfly
03-01-2008, 11:07 PM
on your budget ...

datamoon
impossibled
mirrorball and 2 colourchangers
dynarock
chauvet vue 3
ishow 3 (although i was not impressed with the spread on them)

wigglyrich01
03-01-2008, 11:18 PM
I agree with the datamoons. I use two linked together and they easily fill the dancefloor with bright sharp colours. you can pick them up for £100 each or buy the pack.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NJD-Datamoon-MKII-DMX-Gobo-Lighting-Effect-Kit-DJ-Band_W0QQitemZ350011058831QQihZ022QQcategoryZ14984 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I've never seen the impossibleds for myself but on the videos they look impressive! definatley a contendor;)

rob1963
03-01-2008, 11:22 PM
ishow 3 (although i was not impressed with the spread on them)

I always think a good spread is really important

:D

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-01-2008, 11:25 PM
I always think a good spread is really important

:D

:thumbsup:

rob1963
03-01-2008, 11:36 PM
:thumbsup:

Darren...how did you know I'm a Flora man?

:p

Dragonfly
03-01-2008, 11:38 PM
Darren...how did you know I'm a Flora man?

:p


because it spreads easily :eek: :eek: :eek: :quiet: :quiet: :quiet: :quiet: :quiet: :quiet: :beer1: :beer1:

Daryll
04-01-2008, 12:14 AM
Used a cyclope (impossibled clone) on NYE.
filled a room with 200 + people, only other lights were datamoon and 2 x led pars.

Daryll

spin mobile disco
05-01-2008, 01:10 PM
Any one use an acme stormbird? what do you think of it?

Vectis
05-01-2008, 01:14 PM
Any one use an acme stormbird? what do you think of it?

Great for painting walls & ceilings... a bit fast/manic for dancefloor use IMHO.

spin mobile disco
05-01-2008, 01:14 PM
Any way to slow it down?

spin mobile disco
05-01-2008, 01:23 PM
Did look at the impossibled but was unsure as to its brightness over distance etc if up on a stage.

Vectis
05-01-2008, 01:42 PM
Any way to slow it down?

Nope



Did look at the impossibled but was unsure as to its brightness over distance etc if up on a stage.

It would fill Wembley - go for it!

(OK slight exagguration but they're very good in large rooms)

Penfold42
05-01-2008, 01:54 PM
Any one use an acme stormbird? what do you think of it?
I use one.....i like them but....

Great for painting walls & ceilings... a bit fast/manic for dancefloor use IMHO.

..they are fast.....but do fill a room nicely......

I like it...use it most times, if it get's too much switch it off...that's what i do....:)

Dragonfly
05-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Did look at the impossibled but was unsure as to its brightness over distance etc if up on a stage.

have posted this before but if it helps this is 2 impossibleds in a large school drama studio.

as you can see the impossibleds are very visible amongst the other lighting ... all 250w.

spin mobile disco
06-01-2008, 03:49 PM
ANy chance of a breakdown on pro's and cons of the unit?

Dragonfly
06-01-2008, 03:55 PM
pros ......

no lamps, motors, overheating problems , massive spread 2 cover a large venue easily, lightweight, no fading of gobos etc.

cons .

large units , only 5 colours , a little on the quick side if you have no way of controlling them although this doent bother me.

Penfold42
06-01-2008, 04:05 PM
large units , only 5 colours , a little on the quick side if you have no way of controlling them although this doent bother me.

I tend to give them a slap......well it works on my kids.......:D :D :D :D :D :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-01-2008, 05:32 PM
pros ......

no lamps, motors, overheating problems , massive spread 2 cover a large venue easily, lightweight, no fading of gobos etc.

cons .

large units , only 5 colours , a little on the quick side if you have no way of controlling them although this doent bother me.

And you can get a CA-8 for around £20 to do this.

soundscapes
06-01-2008, 07:38 PM
can the stormbird not be slowed down ? I used to have the chauvet gobosplash (clone) a couple of years ago and it had a\rotary sensitivity control on the back. May be looking for a new light myself as one of my i-shows has just given up

Penfold42
06-01-2008, 07:56 PM
can the stormbird not be slowed down ?

Not that i'm aware of.....:)

Vectis
06-01-2008, 07:59 PM
Mine can't. Only way to slow 'em down is to play music with a slow beat.

Penfold42
06-01-2008, 08:02 PM
I suppose if you tighten the prism up it may stop them going round....but i've never tried that or slowing the beat down...........:D

Starlight
06-01-2008, 08:08 PM
I also have a Stormbird and the only downside to this light is that it cannot be DMX controlled. You play a slow song, the Stormbird will perform slowly.

The stormbird is a great light and the beams are excellent - nice and sharp :)

Mendoza.

CRAZY K
06-01-2008, 09:42 PM
Any one use an acme stormbird? what do you think of it?

Yes me--certainly for a basic cheap light its been very useful and effective.

I still have the original lamp working after a lot of gigs even after smashing it into a marquee dance floor in Northampton:eek:

If you want to have a look, wander up to Denford when your better--Happy Birthday

CRAZY K

soundscapes
07-01-2008, 09:04 PM
Not that i'm aware of.....:)

I had a chauvet gobosplash which i think came from dfb, it was\exactly the same as the acme but had a rotary sensetivity control on the back which controlled the prism so you could stop the prism completly and just have the gobowheel scrolling slowly.

Penfold42
08-01-2008, 11:34 AM
I had a chauvet gobosplash which i think came from dfb, it was\exactly the same as the acme but had a rotary sensetivity control on the back which controlled the prism so you could stop the prism completly and just have the gobowheel scrolling slowly.

I'll look see next time.....:)

spin mobile disco
08-01-2008, 03:43 PM
Ok after much deliberating and with help from all of you, decided to order 2 impossibled . Got them coming in some time before Saterday (I hope)
Thanks for the help and I will give a review when they arrive, may still get a stormbird and remove the controller so I can use a simple potentiometre to control prism and gobos change. As they are quite cheap it shouldnt break the bank to badly.

HyperRAT
08-01-2008, 04:31 PM
I think you made a good decision there matey.

I've ordered 2 Impossibleds too and will more that likely use them as a centrepiece. I've also ordered a starville dmx master, so along with my gobobarrels, dynarolls and strobe I should be able to put on a relatively good show!

Was thinking about scrapping all the lights and having two moving head Martins, 2 martin destroyers and a roplight on a trullice. Thoughts, anyone? :)

Penfold42
09-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Was thinking about scrapping all the lights and having two moving head Martins, 2 martin destroyers and a roplight on a trullice. Thoughts, anyone? :)

I would lose the ropelight.....bit naff.....don't like them...:)
IMO

Corabar Steve
09-01-2008, 11:49 AM
I had a chauvet gobosplash which i think came from dfb, it was\exactly the same as the acme but had a rotary sensetivity control on the back which controlled the prism so you could stop the prism completly and just have the gobowheel scrolling slowly.

Unless there's different models of Stormbird, they don't have one.

Dragonfly
09-01-2008, 03:21 PM
I think you made a good decision there matey.

I've ordered 2 Impossibleds too and will more that likely use them as a centrepiece. I've also ordered a starville dmx master, so along with my gobobarrels, dynarolls and strobe I should be able to put on a relatively good show!

Was thinking about scrapping all the lights and having two moving head Martins, 2 martin destroyers and a roplight on a trullice. Thoughts, anyone? :)

A trullice??? A trullice ?? are you made of money you could fit all that on a coat hanger .... less is more :D :D

Starlight
09-01-2008, 05:53 PM
I think it would be a superb idea if ACME brought out a Stormbird mark II with DMX capabilities, any ideas' in the pipeline, maybe? Get hundreds of DJ's to sign a petition!

Mendoza.

Penfold42
09-01-2008, 06:08 PM
I think it would be a superb idea if ACME brought out a Stormbird mark II with DMX capabilities, any ideas' in the pipeline, maybe? Get hundreds DJ's to sign a petition!

Mendoza.


I think it would be a superb idea if ACME brought out a Stormbird mark II with DMX capabilities, any ideas' in the pipeline, maybe? Get hundreds of DJ's to sign a petition!

Mendoza.

So good an idea that you posted it twice......:p

If you edit one post and look at the options to your right....you will see a delete.....press that and hey presto........

Now who's confused.....:D

Starlight
09-01-2008, 06:31 PM
So good an idea that you posted it twice......:p

If you edit one post and look at the options to your right....you will see a delete.....press that and hey presto........

Now who's confused.....:D

Confused.com :Laugh: :p

Mendoza.

Starlight
09-01-2008, 06:38 PM
As mentioned previously about Dynatwins being jerky on the slow pans/tilts. Can anyone highly recommend a 250W light that's nice and smooth on the slow cycles? Ideally I'm looking at barrel type lights but would settle for the flat mirror scanner type.

Mendoza.

Vectis
09-01-2008, 06:56 PM
Well sticking with the Acme's the dynaroll (and presumably dynarock) are nice and smooth when run from a desk.

HyperRAT
09-01-2008, 10:12 PM
Was thinking about scrapping all the lights and having two moving head Martins, 2 martin destroyers and a roplight on a trullice. Thoughts, anyone? :)

Yeah, sorry, can I just clear something up, as my attempt at sarcasm and humor seems to have gone over everyone's heads! My post, as quoted above, was in direct reference to the post on this thread;

http://www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=10002

...As made by mikey_ice-creams_discotek (post #9).

I have no intention of scrapping my lovely lights, buying a trullice or indeed going anywhere near anything vaguely resembling a rope light.

I jolly well hope that has sorted the matter out!

P.s. I've noticed a lot of brash comments in the forums, normally followed up by a 'my willy's bigger than yours' contest with relation to gear mainly. Is this the norm?

Dragonfly
09-01-2008, 10:15 PM
Yeah, sorry, can I just clear something up, as my attempt at sarcasm and humor seems to have gone over everyone's heads! My post, as quoted above, was in direct reference to the post on this thread;

didn't go over mine mate :D :D :D however my equally sarcastic retort may have :D :D :D :beer1: :beer1:

DJ James Lake
09-01-2008, 10:54 PM
As mentioned previously about Dynatwins being jerky on the slow pans/tilts. Can anyone highly recommend a 250W light that's nice and smooth on the slow cycles? Ideally I'm looking at barrel type lights but would settle for the flat mirror scanner type.

Mendoza.

The Abstract VR Scanners or Second Hand Futurescans for the flat mirrors and gladiatiors for the barrel scanners

Starlight
09-01-2008, 11:53 PM
The Abstract gear does look tasty and considering purchasing some of the VR series soon. ACME are nice don't get me wrong, but I personally think Abstract is better in regard to build quality and performance :cool:

Mendoza.

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-01-2008, 12:42 PM
P.s. I've noticed a lot of brash comments in the forums, normally followed up by a 'my willy's bigger than yours' contest with relation to gear mainly. Is this the norm?

No, it isn't and we try not to let willy waving contests happen on here.