working abroad

[flatliners]

I am still thinking of going to work in say magaluf.my question is what are the advantages / dissadvantages of djing in spain.
Is it easy to find the work out there and what is the average rate of pay per night. someone told me that you get 70 euros a night (50 pounds) and you can get diggs for about 70 euros a week.
so that would be about £350 a week working 7 nights -£50 diggs so 300 a week
and if you had someone shareing a room then split the rent.
Anyone know any companys that can get you work out there or would it just be a case of booking a break taking your laptop and looking for work.
thanx you

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

A DJ that I trained has been working in Magaluf for 10 years now. He now hires and fires DJs there now apparantly. Unfortunately, I don't have an up to date mobile for him.

Disadvantages are having to work every night and working long shifts for not a lot of money.

Advantages - great fun if you're young and single.

Julianas send DJs abroad, but I'm not sure if they go to Majorca.

[DJWilson]

im not sure if you mean discos. but i know that the clubs love taking well know DJ's, go on a few club websites that are in sapin and ask about Djing regually. you might even see the HTID in the sun event. lucky you

[A1DL]

Disadvantages are having to work every night and working long shifts for not a lot of money.



...and work as a gopher / cleaner etc during the day too in some cases :eek:

there are plenty of young guys that try it but many are on a plane back to the UK after a just few weeks, as it is often not as glam as it may seem.

just my 2p

[flatliners]

i would only be djing over there not be a gopher just dj i would love to dj in bcm but no chance of that so just a bar would do or even a hotel and would you say £50 a night sounds right and £50 a week for diggs
htid event i like good music not that toilet stuff

[rob1963]

Flatliners,

It might be worth having a word with vectis vibe, as I believe he works on an island overseas.

[A1DL]

Flatliners,

It might be worth having a word with vectis vibe, as I believe he works on an island overseas.

LOL Rob, not much difference between The White Isle and The Wight Isle :D

[rob1963]

LOL Rob, not much difference between The White Isle and The Wight Isle :D

:Laugh:

[A1DL]

ihtid event i like good music not that toilet stuff

like I said - you'll need that during the day :rolleyes:


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[Solitaire Events Ltd]

i would only be djing over there not be a gopher

How do you know that if you haven't done it yet?

A lot of the guys that just turn up end up doing bar work and cleaning too.

[Sam]

i would only be djing over there not be a gopher just dj i would love to dj in bcm but no chance of that so just a bar would do or even a hotel and would you say £50 a night sounds right and £50 a week for diggs
htid event i like good music not that toilet stuff

all very well but I presume people don't do jobs like that unless they have to earn money to survive out there... which says something imho.

Personally I wouldn't go...

BUT I'm sure you will strive in whatever you do... good luck!

[rob1963]

like I said - you'll need that during the day :rolleyes:


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Hi,

I'm Barry Scott...and I shout at 120 decibels...

...Bang, and the dirt is gone!

:D

[A1DL]

How do you know that if you haven't done it yet?

A lot of the guys that just turn up end up doing bar work and cleaning too.


Spot on Daz, I've heard this from more than just a few people who have actually been there and worn the T-shirt.

And those lucky enough to escape the cleaning & washing up are more often than not sent out during the day handing out flyers to promote the night time events. So if the night is poorly attended, that will be your fault too.

So coming back to my original point, 95% of the time, unless you're a jetsetting Dave Pearce or Pete Tong, essentially you will be a poorly paid gopher during the day and a free DJ by night.

By the way there's no loo paper in the gents and there's a spillage to mop up on the terrace...... BEFORE you go on the decks!

Love Barry *BANG*

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Years ago, a chap that I used to DJ for went on holiday to Corfu and when he came back he told me that he'd been 'offered' a job DJing in a bar and he wanted to take it for the summer, so he asked me if I would look after his business, which I did.

He came back after a few weeks and told me that the offer of the job wasn't there even though he'd been promised it. Because he didn't have much money, he ended up sleeping on the beach and then working behind a bar for a while to get enough money for his ticket home.

Still want to work abroad? :lol:

[flatliners]

that was then this is now might be diffrent now i will have 2 try and find out but i am not doing anything other than djing if a wanted to got over as a barman or a pr person giving out flyers then thats what i would of done

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

that was then this is now might be diffrent now

I should imagine with everybody and his dog being a DJ or wannabe DJ it is worse than ever. The market is saturated, therefore less work for DJs and more DJs taking bar jobs and cleaning jobs etc.

I could be wrong - you may get something and be in the right place at the right time. Good luck. :)

[Vectis]

Flatliners,

It might be worth having a word with vectis vibe, as I believe he works on an island overseas.

:ner:

[JAMdisco]

I think there are far too many "wannabe" DJ's going abroad hoping to be the next "Big Thing". I know a few local club D&B DJ's here in Hull and they only get paid around £30 for a set due to the fact that there is too much supply and not enough demand!
Imagine this type of thing in a DJ "Hotspot" like Magaluf?

Also, you're the same age as me - and I know for a fact I couldn't do it every night, especially in that heat!

If I was you, I'd go across for a weeks holiday and see if there's the job opportunities out there first.

If you do decide to go I wish you well and hope to see "DJ SHAUN" on the next Ibiza Annual CD

[rob1963]

If I was you, I'd go across for a weeks holiday and see if there's the job opportunities out there first.

I agree.

It's far more sensible to go there first & find out more, rather than uprooting & going...only to come back a couple of weeks later if you can't get any work.

[Corabar Steve]

Why try & put him off? He obviously knows better than the rest of you.

Go for it Flatliners! :sj: :sarc:

[JAMdisco]

I wasn't trying to put him off - hope he does it (as I said in my post) but I only suggested maybe a little more research as people on her don't seem to have much experience with working abroad (do they?) If there is anyone that has - let him know so he can PM them.

[A1DL]

Why try & put him off? He obviously knows better than the rest of you.

Go for it Flatliners! :sj: :sarc:

Yep, I take it all back, Steve's right. Go for it.....

Flatliners, one thing I can promise is you will just LOVE slammin' it on the decks in BCM..... as I'm sure you already know they have the largest Stasys installation in the world.

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[Adam_F]

Danno13 and James H know about working abroad as they have both done it, no doubt they'll be on at some point to give their opinions.
I think I was on about £25 a night when I was out in Kavos in 1999, and yes, flyering was the norm, if you wanted to keep your job, there are loads of people ready to jump in and take control of the decks. Most will try and undercut, or even offer their services for free, just so they can tell all their chavvy friends they've DJ'd abroad.

[Penfold42]

there are loads of people ready to jump in and take control of the decks. Most will try and undercut, or even offer their services for free, just so they can tell all their chavvy friends they've DJ'd abroad.

It all seems a bit cut throat to me.....:)

[electricnite]

i wouldnt even look at an air fayre for £50 quid a night. pure rubbish !!!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

i wouldnt even look at an air fayre for £50 quid a night. pure rubbish !!!

It's not about the money though really, is it?

As I said, if you're young free and single, there's a great time to be had.

[A1DL]

an air fayre for £50 quid a night. pure rubbish !!!

agreed £50 is a little expensive, although the skill of the pilots is amazing and definitely something worth seeing up close... I love a good Air Fayre :D :D :D

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[Sam]

agreed £50 is a little expensive, although the skill of the pilots is amazing and definitely something worth seeing up close... I love a good Air Fayre :D :D :D

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haha :p

[electricnite]

A1 you need a medal for that. i'm peeing myself laughing. they got more hope of me hitching a ride with those guys than working for £50 quid a night. what a pile of pants

[secretDISCO]

As an Ex-Julianas/Bacchus jock i would go for it !!!!
I travelled to Dubai,America,Norway,Hong Kong,Bahrain and Austrailia Jocking and living in some of the best hotels in the world......so if your good enough and have no ties, then the worlds your oyster.
PS make sure you have a good agent with a water tight contract.:cool:

[BeerFunk]

I would like to add that the big name DJs out there did not work their way up over there! Most of the big name DJs that I know of start out closer to home, then get big money offers to go to the big holiday clubs.

For example, where did Pete Tong start out? Doing mobile discos in a transit van! ;)

[PropellerHeadCase]

As did Norman Cook.

[groovy-nights]

Flatliners i have been to magulf and dj'd.You are living in a dream work if you think you will only dj you will be out in the daytime pring and stocking the bar.If you do want to do it you need to be out there from late march and dj jobs are hard to come by.For everyone job theres 20+ people after it so if you are not upto it and the boss walks passed your out.best of luck if you go

[OneSteve]

I spent 5 years of my life working in Salou, Magaluf and later Tenerife don't listen to all the scaremongers, I look back on it as being the best days of my life. I worked from '88 until '93 and made around £30 a night, HOWEVER my accomodation was paid for me (including gas/lecky) as was ALL my food and drink. So the £30 a night was "pocket money". I never once had to PR on beaches or attend to anything during the day like cleaning bogs etc. I was the DJ, the man who brings in the crowds and makes sure they stay put.

If you are good at what you do and can hold a crowd you will gain respect from your manager, 2 of my ex-managers used to ferry me to and from the airport!

The biggest problem is competition, as mentioned earlier all too often the wee chav that hands out leaflets for a fiver a night finds himself through luck, behind the decks and realises that if he plays the same tunes the last DJ did, the punters will enjoy (especialy in July/Aug when EVERYWHERE is mobbed). I've met some very sub-standard "DJs" that have found their opening this way. Personally, I seen them for what the were, and most of them realised they couldn't cut the cheese when they came back to Britain for the Winter and tried to keep a pup/club busy.

ALL of the work, bar one number, which I did in Spain was achieved through flying in to the resort, finding a hotel for a night, freshening up then hitting the town and going from busy Fun-pub to busy Fun-pub. It never took long to arrange a trial, and if you're a pro you'll open their eyes and have an offer.

Best time to travel is the week before Easter, most other travellers haven't made it accross by this time and the Spanish flock to the resorts in their thousands. Shortly thereafter the Brits start appearing.

I've seen loads of other jocks become homesick, fed-up after a couple of weeks. Working abroad is not for the faint hearted, but if you overcome the initial pull to through the towel in, you will have the time of your life.

At 37, you might be pushing it a bit now, no offence, I was there when I was in my 20s and would feel that the £50 a night wouldn't cover my costs today. But if you're single, debt-free and up for probably the best adventure you'll ever have, go for it. The women are a plenty.

Average day for me back then...

Get up around midday
Eat lunch at the pub (free)
Down to the beach with my mates
chat up everything that moves
Back to the pub around 5-6 for Dinner (free)
home for a shower/change
Back in the Fun-pub for 8-9
Party until 2ish
On to the club with new found female friends
In to bed
Get up and go home
sleep
start over....

Avoid the Clubs over there though, in high season you could be working until 6/7am which is a nightmare. Fun-pubs are where it's at.

[mike8863]

Not sure on spain, but if you work in turkey, you need a work permit, tax no etc, i know turkey isn't in the eu, but alot of countries are trying to stabilise or reduce their unemployment figures.....!!!. might be worth checking out before committing yourself.

Mike

[OneSteve]

Spain is OK, as it's EU. At the time I was there you officially required a work permit but that has changed. For taxation you may be required to register with the local authorities, again it's at your discretion, most don't bother. Cash in hand seems to be the payment of choice for the spaniards.

[DazzyD]

I did a stint out in Ibiza in 1999 at, like OneSteve, a popular fun pub. I got the job there by 2 factors - the pub had recently lost it's regular DJ (the manager was standing in) and I stood out like a sore thumb! I was dressed as Jake Blues from the Blues Brothers so people, including the manager, noticed me. The choice of songs was poor to say the least and the dance floor was empty. I requested a few tracks (student anthems of the time) and people started to fill the dancefloor. I ended my requests with Sit Down by James and the place went mental! Everyone was up dancing (and, at one point, sitting down on the dancefloor!). It was quite surreal.

The next day I went back the bar and got talking to the manager (a german bloke) who told me that people said what a great time they'd had the night before. There'd been people in from all over the place (most noticeably germans, swedes, and dutch!) and the music had appealed to all of them! He offered me a trial for the rest of my holiday which went down well and people were coming back to the bar each night. Due to commitments at home, I couldn't stay straight away so I said I'd sort things at home and return in a couple of weeks which I did and finished the peak season there.

Unlike some comments on here, I got a free apartment, free meals and drinks and didn't have to work as a cleaner or bar staff during the day. I did, however, set up an entertainments team at the bar with singers and dancers so that we could put on varied shows and this paid off too. We also had to hand out flyers (the free-shot voucher on the bottom seemed to pull punters in!). By mid season, we had live entertainment on as well as karaoke sessions and a disco to fill in the gaps and end the night. The pub was sold over the winter that year and the new owner had his own ideas so didn't want me back in 2000.

My experiences were quite good and enjoyable but I've spoken to DJs out there who weren't so happy. They had to work the bar during the day or work in the kitchens so make enough to survive. Some people found that it was a lonely experience out there on their own. I was too busy to feel this way and had a good team to work with so I really enjoyed it. I had the chance to go back to another venue there in 2005 but my son was born that year and that changed everything. And I'm much happier being a dad now anyway!

[nigelwright7557]

...and work as a gopher / cleaner etc during the day too in some cases :eek:

there are plenty of young guys that try it but many are on a plane back to the UK after a just few weeks, as it is often not as glam as it may seem.

just my 2p

I would agree with this.

I love DJing but doing it every night would it start to be a drag after a week or two.
Once or twice per month for me is great.

[501damian501]

yup,great working out in spain, sun, sea, sand and sexy women, but read the terms and conditions, before you commit yourself

[DJmissbehaving]

I am so glad someone started this thread as i am going to Ibiza next friday for a holiday and the thought of not coming back here is the first thing on my mind......but i was worried about the cost of staying there and things....something i have always considered but might not be until after i "qualify" (hopefully) then Australia is on the cards.....

[markthedoc]

I worked out in Kavos, Corfu for a bit DJing about 10 years ago.
It was long hours and the pay was terrible. A lot of the apartments out there that are affordable are dives with bad drains and no air-con.
It didn't suit me, I like my creature comforts and I came back after a few weeks but my mate who I went out with loved it. He stayed the whole season and went back every summer for 3 years then started going to Salou DJing every summer.

He now lives in Spain and has done for a good few years now, can't see him ever coming back to England.

Give it a go, if you can't find work just come back home, at least you would've give it a try.

[markthedoc]

I went out to Kavos, Corfu DJing about 10 years ago.
The hours were long and the pay was terrible.
A lot of the workers apartments out there are dives with bad drains and no air-con.
It didn't suit me, I like my creature comforts too much and I came home after a couple of weeks.

My mate who I went out with loved it though. He stayed out there all season and went back every summer for the next 4 years. He then went to Salou a few times to work for the summer season. He now lives out in Spain permanently. I can't see him ever coming back to the UK.

I'd give it a go if I was you, if you don't like it just come back home.
You'll never know if you don't try it.

[markthedoc]

I worked out in Kavos, Corfu DJing about 10 years ago.
The hours were long and the pay was terrible.
A lot of the workers apartments out there are dives with bad drains and no air-con.
It didn't suit me, I like my creature comforts too much and I came home after a couple of weeks.

My mate who I went out with loved it though. He stayed out there all season and went back every summer for the next 4 years. He then went out to Salou a few times to work for the summer season. He now lives out in Spain permanently. I can't see him ever coming back to the UK.

I'd give it a go if I was you, if you don't like it just come back home.
You'll never know if you don't try it.