Haze machine

[JAMdisco]

As my fogger has now dies after 10 long years of good service I am thinking of getting one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180208125933&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008) as more and more venues are funny about smoke machines.

Are they as subtle as they make them out to be i.e. "a fine haze that's barely detectable". I want to enhance my light show without obvious bellows of smoke.

I am thinking about cutting a hole out of my front cloth and having the front of the hazer slightly sticking out so that the smoke rises directly in front of the lights. Is this safe as the nozzle on my fogger was extremely hot.

Any advice please?

[Dragonfly]

As my fogger has now dies after 10 long years of good service I am thinking of getting one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180208125933&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008) as more and more venues are funny about smoke machines.

Are they as subtle as they make them out to be i.e. "a fine haze that's barely detectable". I want to enhance my light show without obvious bellows of smoke.

I am thinking about cutting a hole out of my front cloth and having the front of the hazer slightly sticking out so that the smoke rises directly in front of the lights. Is this safe as the nozzle on my fogger was extremely hot.

Any advice please?

no it does get hot chuck the idea don't even go there ................. I find that smoke or haze are considered the same here and most venues tell me before i'm even inside that I cant use either smoke ,haze or bubbles or indoor fireworks. ive used my hazer at 2 venues in 18 months.

[Paul James Promotions]

A hazer is designed to fill a room with a very light haze, not like a fogger that you use to just cover a small area, so it's positioning won't matter too much providing nothing obstructs the output. I usually mount my unit on the floor to one side behind the show, aiming towards the lighting truss.

[JAMdisco]

no it does get hot chuck the idea don't even go there .................

OK I won't thanks.


A hazer is designed to fill a room with a very light haze

How light is the haze, is it noticable in a dimly lit venue? I'm thinking of using it at my residency (pub) but don't want to choke the punters whilst enhancing the show. They've never mentioned that I can't use a smoke machine but common sense prevailed and I thought it too small a venue to use it.

Also, from looking around it seems there are different densities of smoke/haze. which is the least dense?

[Paul James Promotions]

How light is the haze, is it noticable in a dimly lit venue? I'm thinking of using it at my residency (pub) but don't want to choke the punters whilst enhancing the show. They've never mentioned that I can't use a smoke machine but common sense prevailed and I thought it too small a venue to use it.

Can't really comment on the cheaper units, but certainly with the good hazers it is a very light haze if used on a low setting.

[sleah]

I got a cheap £40 job from those nice Germans. It says you can use normal fog fluid, but I'm using proper haze fluid as it's less dense, I thing it's actually for the Jem TechoHaze.
It's a very low power machine,and with the output turned to about 1/3rd, it's just about visible in normal or daylight. Just right to highlight the lights without it being obviously foggy.
Last time I used itwasin a church hall that would hold about 150 people and it was spot on:approve:

[Danno13]

Also, even on the cheaper ones you can mix de-ionised water in with the fluid to make it thinner.

[JAMdisco]

Also, even on the cheaper ones you can mix de-ionised water in with the fluid to make it thinner.

I almost asked the question whether the fluid can be diluted or not. one question though, why on the cheaper ones - is this just due to lack of output control? The one I'm looking at has a timer on the remote.

[sleah]

I almost asked the question whether the fluid can be diluted or not. one question though, why on the cheaper ones - is this just due to lack of output control? The one I'm looking at has a timer on the remote.

My cheapo one came with timer remote with output level control. I thought it must be a mistake in the advert 'till it arrived with one:cool: :D :D

[JAMdisco]

Simon,
Which hazer did you get for £40 (pressume this was brand new).
I could do with one of these myself, leaves me extra money to buy a decent fogger as well (for the younger generation)

[One Vision]

Hya Jay I think thats the same as we have and very good too.
Haze machines do the complete opposite to your traditional smoke machine.
Smoke machines as you will know give a big Puff of thickish smoke off were the haze machine is designed so only to give a light haze of fine smoke.
The haze machine we have has a decent sized fan inside the unit so is distributed even more so and comes complete with a timer/manual switch so can also be set so is either on continuous in larger halls or on the simple to use timer so you can have it just topping up the effect every so often.

Like everybody ells once you have used a smoke machine you find it hard to imagine how something that produces less could be effective especially in larger halls but believe me they are far, far better.

As already mentioned some hotels etc. refuse to allow them in any shape or form as no amount of smoke is guaranteed to not trigger these new detectors so not much you can do in them circumstances but on the whole from what I have seen the haze machines have never caused any problems.
At the end of the day we only use them to enhance our light shows so if the customer is happy with a lesser quality light show then no problem.

[sleah]

Simon,
Which hazer did you get for £40 (pressume this was brand new).
I could do with one of these myself, leaves me extra money to buy a decent fogger as well (for the younger generation)

Here ya go fella...
http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_sh150.htm

OK, so it's £46.94...:rolleyes:

[mlawranceowen]

Here ya go fella...
http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_sh150.htm

OK, so it's £46.94...:rolleyes:

Does anyone no how thin this model is/can you see the smoke? and does it set off fire alarms?

cheers