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scoopd
29-01-2008, 12:23 PM
Here's one for you.
I'm looking to buy a second hand van but the seller only has one key for it.
He says that it only had one when HE bought it
Is this commonplace? Surely he or somebody else could still have a key for it and drive off in it at some point in the future or am I just being paranoid???

Shaun
29-01-2008, 12:29 PM
It is possible that someone may have a key for it, in this instance you'll never know. It's also possible for someone to sell you a vehicle with 2 keys but still have extra keys cut, you'll never know. Unfortunately there's not a lot you can do about the situation.

If it were me, I don't think I'd be "put off" with there only being the one key.

rob1963
29-01-2008, 12:38 PM
It is possible that someone may have a key for it, in this instance you'll never know. It's also possible for someone to sell you a vehicle with 2 keys but still have extra keys cut, you'll never know. Unfortunately there's not a lot you can do about the situation.

If it were me, I don't think I'd be "put off" with there only being the one key.

Agreed.

I think it's easy to get paranoid.

What about when you buy a new HOUSE?

How do you know the previous owners didn't have an extra key cut & then kept it after selling you the property?

UltraBeat Entertainment
29-01-2008, 12:46 PM
What about when you buy a new HOUSE?

How do you know the previous owners didn't have an extra key cut & then kept it after selling you the property?

Would you not change the locks?

Sorry off topic slightly:D

Sam
29-01-2008, 12:52 PM
it is always going to be a risk isn't it.

Can locks be changed on vans? :rolleyes:

UltraBeat Entertainment
29-01-2008, 12:56 PM
I was talking about getting the locks changed on your house:p
but i expect you can get them changed on a van. never tried:)

Sam
29-01-2008, 01:01 PM
I was talking about getting the locks changed on your house:p
but i expect you can get them changed on a van. never tried:)

I know.. i worked that out :party1:

Was a sort of general question about vans.
I pressume you can.. as some of the workmen who have been doign stuff at out house recently have massive big silver lock things... extra security :) :Watusi: :boxer: :boxer2:

TonyB
29-01-2008, 01:38 PM
Keys do get lost! I lost mine at a weekend break at Southwold in Suffolk. Had a day at the beach and went to get something out of the car but forgot I put the key in my swimming trunks pocket. Went swimming and it must of fallen out of the pocket in the sea.

While the others went back to the hotel for beers and a relaxing evening, I had to get a train home to get the spare key and go back to get the car (which was a round trip of about 5 hours).

The one I lost had the button on it for the remote locking/unlocking and would have been about £70 to replace so I didn't bother hence the car only had one key when I sold it.

Solitaire Events Ltd
29-01-2008, 01:59 PM
When I bought my current car, it only came with a single key, which I wasn't overly worried about 'till I went to Honda and they wanted almost 200 quid for a coded key...

Vectis
29-01-2008, 02:05 PM
Similar thing happened with my van - it came with 2 keys but one snapped in the door lock so I thought it wise to get a replacement.

Dealer wanted £120

Timpsons £35.

Same thing... transponder code copied across and everything.

Solitaire Events Ltd
29-01-2008, 02:06 PM
Same thing... transponder code copied across and everything.

I tried that - mine didn't. :(

scoopd
29-01-2008, 02:15 PM
I take it from this that you guys think I should just go for it then?

A1DL
29-01-2008, 02:30 PM
why not just have additional security locks fitted to each of the doors?

Corabar Steve
29-01-2008, 02:33 PM
I take it from this that you guys think I should just go for it then?

Don't see why not.

rob1963
29-01-2008, 04:51 PM
Would you not change the locks?

Sorry off topic slightly:D

How many people change all the locks when they buy a new house?

I don't, and neither does anybody I know as far as I'm aware.

rob1963
29-01-2008, 04:54 PM
Can locks be changed on vans? :rolleyes:

Yes, but I really don't think it's worth the expense.

When my rear door look went, it cost me over £100 to get it replaced.

Personally, I'd rather take the risk.

After all, that's what insurance is for!

mb3
29-01-2008, 06:44 PM
I've always changed house locks... but then again that's a simple DIY job... vehicle locks are a different animal. In fact we now change all the door locks on all the caravans we sell second hand - just for customer peace of mind. With the new "eurolock" barrels it only takes 5 minutes with just a screwdriver, and costs less then £10.

If you were to have things stolen from your van by somebody using a key, surely suspicion would fall immediately on previous owners... surely the Police would be prepared to investigate?

Additional deadlocks are always a good idea on vans... but they can be a bit unsightly.

The back door and drivers door locks were worn on an Escort van I had a few years ago... it cost under £200 for new locks all round, including the ignition switch (with red immobiliser transponder key) and fuel cap... and that was a Main Dealer price.

Honda are simply taking the mickey.

Corabar Steve
29-01-2008, 07:21 PM
How many people change all the locks when they buy a new house?

I don't, and neither does anybody I know as far as I'm aware.

We did

Solitaire Events Ltd
29-01-2008, 07:31 PM
And us.

Corabar Steve
29-01-2008, 07:48 PM
Great minds......

wensleydale
29-01-2008, 07:51 PM
How many people change all the locks when they buy a new house?

I don't, and neither does anybody I know as far as I'm aware.

not all the locks- just one so people cant get in because they then dont have all the keys.

and pretty much everyone i would imagine.
seems pretty stupid not to for the sake of £20.

Excalibur
29-01-2008, 07:54 PM
Great minds......

Nah, Tight gits more like. ;)

Corabar Steve
29-01-2008, 07:56 PM
What? By investing in a new lock, rather than keeping the existing one?

Excalibur
29-01-2008, 08:20 PM
What? By investing in a new lock, rather than keeping the existing one?

By a pre-emptive move designed to hold on to what you've got.;)

Corabar Steve
29-01-2008, 08:29 PM
& what's wrong with that?

Corabar Steve
29-01-2008, 08:31 PM
I think we're a tad :offtopic: :ontopic:

djsteve10
29-01-2008, 08:41 PM
The problem with changing a lock if its a new car that they are all fitted with central locking systems, Our van has had dead locks fitted to it aswell as the existing system, Also had a cliffor alarm system installed that sends you text messages when the alarm is activated.

CRAZY K
29-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Agreed.

I think it's easy to get paranoid.

What about when you buy a new HOUSE?

How do you know the previous owners didn't have an extra key cut & then kept it after selling you the property?

Wouldnt be a lot of use--we used to have two BIG ALSATIAN GUARD DOGS in Hertfordshire---:eek:

No break ins in 9 years---wonder why :D :D :D

CRAZY K

rob1963
29-01-2008, 10:52 PM
We did


And us.


Great minds......

I didn't!

Lets face it, if I came home one day & had been burgled, but there was no forced entry, I'd expect the previous owners to be fairly high up on the list of suspects!

Solitaire Events Ltd
29-01-2008, 11:02 PM
But then that didnt seem on your list of priorities, nor did the security on you van.

Accepting a cheque within 14 days of a function, now that's much more dangerous....:sj:

rob1963
29-01-2008, 11:15 PM
Accepting a cheque within 14 days of a function, now that's much more dangerous....:sj:

Not more dangerous...just more likely to lead to situations where I have to waste time chasing up the client to try & get paid!

:D

rob1963
29-01-2008, 11:42 PM
How many people change all the locks when they buy a new house?


not all the locks- just one so people cant get in because they then dont have all the keys.

Do you really think that someone can't get into your house because they don't have all the keys?

I wonder how many burglers are unsuccessful due to the fact that they don't have the keys?