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Penfold42
10-02-2008, 07:44 PM
Anyone had to have a repair on the top horn's (Piezo horn's)....on these cab's and know what price you are looking at??

Thanks.

spin mobile disco
10-02-2008, 07:50 PM
Are they piezzo or compression?

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 07:53 PM
If it Piezo then not alot.

Penfold42
10-02-2008, 07:57 PM
Are they piezzo or compression?

That's tech for me.....:o ....ask me the stress of steel...'I'm your man'.....:D

http://www.class-d.com/Product.aspx?PRO=532
Link here 3 x 3"..........:o ....sorry all i know is one side is not working.......:)


If it Piezo then not alot.
Oh great........

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-02-2008, 08:02 PM
They are Piezos Tone.

Compression drivers are horns normally.

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 08:04 PM
see here: http://www.terralec.co.uk/loudspeaker_parts/piezo_square/18226_p.html

Corabar Steve
10-02-2008, 08:05 PM
Anyone had to have a repair on the top horn's (Piezo horn's)....on these cab's and know what price you are looking at??

Thanks.

Why?

Penfold42
10-02-2008, 08:06 PM
They are Piezos Tone.

Compression drivers are horns normally.

Many thanks Daz.....:o

I called them horn's out of ignorance..:o ...so is it worth fixing or call it a day....
Bearing in mind price.....:)

Why?
They don't work...... :).....it's all i want to say at this moment.....:)


see here: http://www.terralec.co.uk/loudspeaker_parts/piezo_square/18226_p.html


Not so bad then...thanks Callum....:)

Corabar Steve
10-02-2008, 08:09 PM
How long have you had them & is it your fault?

Penfold42
10-02-2008, 08:19 PM
How long have you had them & is it your fault?

Under a year and not my fault.....:)

O.K.
Some nice person threw a (full) glass of white / red wine over one of my speakers last night......
They no longer work on one side....bass works O.K. but the nice top bit's are null and void on one side.....
I've had the one on the radiator all day.....still no avail...

I spoke to the guy and told him what had happen....he's not to impressed....

I just want to know how much.......judging by Callum not a lot.......:)

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 08:20 PM
ITs worth it really. If you find that thats not it then you have a spair set then.

Corabar Steve
10-02-2008, 08:23 PM
Give Class D a ring.

Penfold42
10-02-2008, 08:25 PM
Next on my list ....i was just wondering if anyone had done some repairs.......:)

Corabar Steve
10-02-2008, 08:30 PM
Yep one of ours just stopped or no reason after 3 gigs (Robbie was the last to use it so I blame him) Admittedly still under waranty & not soggy like yours, but we had a free replacement within a couple of days.

Penfold42
10-02-2008, 08:35 PM
Yep one of ours just stopped or no reason after 3 gigs (Robbie was the last to use it so I blame him) Admittedly still under waranty & not soggy like yours, but we had a free replacement within a couple of days.
Sack Robbie....that' what i'd say....:D

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-02-2008, 09:14 PM
Sack Robbie....that' what i'd say....:D

Who's Robbie? :confused:

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 09:27 PM
Yep one of ours just stopped or no reason after 3 gigs (Robbie was the last to use it so I blame him) Admittedly still under waranty & not soggy like yours, but we had a free replacement within a couple of days.


Who's Robbie? :confused:
:D:D:D

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-02-2008, 09:28 PM
:D:D:D

Er, yeah, but does that explain who he is? :rolleyes:

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 09:31 PM
Er, yeah, but does that explain who he is? :rolleyes:

oops i though you wear meaing where did he get the name Robbie :o

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-02-2008, 09:47 PM
oops i though you wear meaing where did he get the name Robbie :o

You donkey. :p

Excalibur
10-02-2008, 09:48 PM
Give Class D a ring.

Excellent idea


Next on my list ....i was just wondering if anyone had done some repairs.......:)
I blew a mid driver. Was given one replacement and one spare FOC. That's the sort of repair costs I can live with. Ring 'em Tone, piezos cost naff all, even if you have to pay it might be a fiver! :eek:

Tony Scott
10-02-2008, 10:08 PM
Anyone had to have a repair on the top horn's (Piezo horn's)....on these cab's and know what price you are looking at??

Thanks.

Ebay, £1.50 each + £1.75 p&p: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-D-Bullet-PiezoTweeter_W0QQitemZ170190676907QQihZ007QQcatego ryZ69967QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Direct from Class D. :)

Excalibur
10-02-2008, 10:10 PM
Ebay, £1.50 each + £1.75 p&p: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-D-Bullet-PiezoTweeter_W0QQitemZ170190676907QQihZ007QQcatego ryZ69967QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Direct from Class D. :)

As much as that ? ;) :D

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 10:30 PM
You donkey. :p


Neah chance of that :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-02-2008, 10:34 PM
As much as that ? ;) :D

You have to remember the quality of the speaker they are going in to. :p :boxer2:

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 10:45 PM
Top quality better than RFC, Mackie, Bose etc!! :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
10-02-2008, 10:47 PM
Top quality better than RFC, Mackie, Bose etc!! :D

If you weren't 15, I'd be asking if you had been drinking...:p

Tom
10-02-2008, 10:47 PM
:eek: callum run.....now :lol:

Jiggles
10-02-2008, 10:48 PM
If you weren't 15, I'd be asking if you had been drinking...:p

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :zip: :D :D

Jaggiebunnett
11-02-2008, 01:30 AM
Do they still make (use) piezo for professional applications?:confused:

Corabar Steve
11-02-2008, 08:16 AM
Well I would have thought that much was obvious from this thread (as I understand it anyway :sj:)

leighinstoke
11-02-2008, 09:00 AM
God I get so many mixed messages from this thread.

I'm still yet to update my speaker system and have Class-D recommended - then read here and it seems not worth bothering.

What's the real deal with Class-D? Thinking tops and subs.

Leigh....

Mission
11-02-2008, 10:39 AM
Very helpful at Class-D. I had four bolts/nuts shake loose in the speakon sockets and a quick email later they dropped me some in the post.

As mentioned, they are cheap anyway so even if you have to pay for them it could of been worse with say a Mackie etc.

Corabar Steve
11-02-2008, 10:42 AM
Where's the confusion Leigh? Tony's got a soaking & need replacing & one of mine popped while under warranty &now works perfectly.

I don't think Class D can be held responsible for Tony's mishap & they sorted mine immediately.

Excalibur
11-02-2008, 11:12 AM
God I get so many mixed messages from this thread.

I'm still yet to update my speaker system and have Class-D recommended - then read here and it seems not worth bothering.

What's the real deal with Class-D? Thinking tops and subs.

Leigh....


Where's the confusion Leigh? Tony's got a soaking & need replacing & one of mine popped while under warranty &now works perfectly.

I don't think Class D can be held responsible for Tony's mishap & they sorted mine immediately.


I think the confusion is arising because:
1) We are quite rightly pointing out the low cost of replacing broken parts, and people are equating low cost with cheap and nasty.

2) Some other people are injecting humorous jibes into this thread which are not being taken with a big enough pinch of salt. We know they are intended humorously, bit other folk may miss these subtle nuances.

3) There is now a new range with compression drivers instead of Piezos, which has brought the prices of those ones up to a much less wallet friendly level than previously.

Leigh- as many of us on here alays say, go to see Class-D if at all possible. They will demonstrate any combination of their gear you wish to hear. ( and often can't be dissuaded from demoing £2,500 worth of system which you have no intention of buying,, but stand there with your flares flapping in the breeze! :eek: :D :D )

You don't give an idea of budget, but for a versatile, powerful systenm from them I would go for

these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-d-CD15-700w-Bass-Bin-Dj-Audio-PA_W0QQitemZ180212779977QQihZ008QQcategoryZ23794QQ tcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

or these , but they are slightly smaller cabs.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-d-CD15N-700w-Compact-Bass-Bins-Dj-Audio-PA_W0QQitemZ170192325480QQihZ007QQcategoryZ23794QQ tcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Or if you are young and fit, or have a Roadie
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-D-Design-CD-18-1300w-RMS-Bass-Bins-Dj-PA-Disco_W0QQitemZ170192527707QQihZ007QQcategoryZ2379 4QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

With on top
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-d-CD12SP-600watt-speakers-DJ-Groups-Install-Bands_W0QQitemZ170191462027QQihZ007QQcategoryZ2379 4QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

or these huge blighters, which I have
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-d-CD15SP-700watt-speakers-DJ-Groups-Install-Bands_W0QQitemZ180213454263QQihZ008QQcategoryZ2379 4QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

I would also get an active crosover, and two amps, for reasons I have gone into many times. ( I would also make a mod to the top hat mounts on the subs, especially if you got the 15" tops. It would take an hour of time, and cost about £5 at most )

If you buy a package, you appear to save a few bob.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Class-D-CD15N12SP-1200watt-speaker-system-DJ-PA_W0QQitemZ180207082570QQihZ008QQcategoryZ47094QQ tcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem


Ring them up, tell them what you want, and if at all possible go see them. You cannot beat hearing any system to see if it's what you require, and are happy with.

Dragonfly
11-02-2008, 11:22 AM
i've heard Tonys class-d ....pre it being his drinking partner , and i have to say they do sound very nice , i personally prefer the sound produced by a compression driver but , they were crisp clear and looked nice .

Excalibur
11-02-2008, 11:34 AM
i've heard Tonys class-d ....pre it being his drinking partner , and i have to say they do sound very nice , i personally prefer the sound produced by a compression driver but , they were crisp clear and looked nice .

Which is what most folk who have actually listened to them say, as opposed to the people who condemn them without ever having heard them! :bang:

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-02-2008, 11:38 AM
Which is what most folk who have actually listened to them say, as opposed to the people who condemn them without ever having heard them! :bang:

I must admit I haven't heard them but do make a few comments about them, but only in the spirit of banter on the forum. If I lived nearer the factory, I'd go and have a listen.

Excalibur
11-02-2008, 11:47 AM
I must admit I haven't heard them but do make a few comments about them, but only in the spirit of banter on the forum. If I lived nearer the factory, I'd go and have a listen.

If you don't put a sock in the " Cheery Banter " you soon will have heard some- Outside your house at three am! :p :D :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-02-2008, 11:49 AM
If you don't put a sock in the " Cheery Banter " you soon will have heard some- Outside your house at three am! :p :D :D

Cool, that'll save me a trip up to hear Steve's then...:D :cool:

Excalibur
11-02-2008, 11:53 AM
Cool, that'll save me a trip up to hear Steve's then...:D :cool:

Steve's don't count. They're only little. ;) :D :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-02-2008, 11:58 AM
Steve's don't count. They're only little. ;) :D :D

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Corabar Steve
11-02-2008, 03:57 PM
http://planetsmilies.net/vicious-smiley-1759.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)I beg your pardon!!!

Penfold42
11-02-2008, 03:59 PM
:lol:.....good 4hr's to reply.....:D :D

Sorted now...spoke to them....coming in the post soon...

Thanks people.....:)

Jaggiebunnett
11-02-2008, 04:31 PM
Well I would have thought that much was obvious from this thread (as I understand it anyway :sj:)
it was a polite way of asking you all if any quality DJ still uses that c**p :)

rob1963
11-02-2008, 05:19 PM
It seems that Class D speakers are like Marmite.

Dragonfly
11-02-2008, 05:20 PM
It seems that Class D speakers are like Marmite.

brown sticky a smell bad????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

rob1963
11-02-2008, 05:25 PM
It seems that Class D speakers are like Marmite.


brown sticky a smell bad????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

No Dave, you either love them or hate them.

I remember a thread I started last year asking for advice on which speakers to replace my Warriors with.

A few people recommended Class D, but I also had a few PMs from people strongly advising AGAINST them.

I've never had that before.

As I said, it seems that people either love them or hate them.

Dragonfly
11-02-2008, 05:26 PM
indeed mate ... but i think you will find that at the moment Tonys are brown sticky and smell bad :D :D :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-02-2008, 05:27 PM
I don't love them or hate them. :sj:

rob1963
11-02-2008, 05:27 PM
indeed mate ... but i think you will find that at the moment Tonys are brown sticky and smell bad :D :D :D

Indeed!

Poor Tony :cry:

Excalibur
11-02-2008, 06:04 PM
I don't love them or hate them. :sj:

But once you have heard them, you too will be a follower of the true way forward. ;) :D :D Or are you determinedly avoiding that day? :confused: :D
Ah gwon gwon gwon gwon gwon. :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-02-2008, 06:07 PM
But once you have heard them, you too will be a follower of the true way forward. ;) :D :D Or are you determinedly avoiding that day? :confused: :D
Ah gwon gwon gwon gwon gwon. :D

I've just spent 2k on a new PA, so whether I love them or hate them is irrelevant as I won't be replacing my current kit with them. ;)

I have been to the Corabars on several occasions to hear them, but never quite managed to...we had too much drinking to do I'm afraid. :D :beer1:

Dragonfly
11-02-2008, 06:11 PM
I've just spent 2k on a new PA,

on speakers whose name we dare not mention for fear of reprisals from the poster whose name is synonymous with a single monotonous ...... beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep :D :D :D :D :beer1:

Tony Scott
11-02-2008, 06:48 PM
Cerwin Vega or Class D?.............What's that all about then? http://www.cerwinvega.com/intense.php

Penfold42
11-02-2008, 06:58 PM
It seems that Class D speakers are like Marmite.

http://www.ilovemarmite.com/2008%2F1%2F13%2Fmarmite%2Fi-love-you-marmite.asp

Like my speakers......a fine thing!!

:D :D :D :D

rob1963
11-02-2008, 11:20 PM
I don't love them or hate them. :sj:

So you're indifferent towards them then? (whereas we know you LOVE Mackies!) :D


http://www.ilovemarmite.com/2008%2F1%2F13%2Fmarmite%2Fi-love-you-marmite.asp

Like my speakers......a fine thing!!

:D :D :D :D

:Laugh:

Solitaire Events Ltd
11-02-2008, 11:39 PM
So you're indifferent towards them then? (whereas we know you LOVE Mackies!) :D



:Laugh:

Nah, I don't 'love' any equipment. I never use the phrase for inanimate objects. ;)

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 08:05 AM
it was a polite way of asking you all if any quality DJ still uses that c**p :)& this is a polite way of saying think about what you post.

There are quite a few DJs on here that use Speaker cabs with piezos in them, are you saying that those DJs are lacking in quality?


Cerwin Vega or Class D?.............What's that all about then? http://www.cerwinvega.com/intense.php

They certainly look VERY similar

Dragonfly
12-02-2008, 08:45 AM
They certainly look VERY similar

as do certain prosound and carlsbro speakers .... much to my disgust :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 08:53 AM
Never mind Dave :sj:

Penfold42
12-02-2008, 09:23 AM
Do we have an Echo....#59 / #60...........:D :D :D :D

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-02-2008, 09:24 AM
Do we have an Echo....#59 / #60...........:D :D :D :D

Not anymore. :D

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 11:22 AM
How odd!

Gavin Matthews
12-02-2008, 01:53 PM
I think these speakers sound like your listening to AM radio (No offence)

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 02:29 PM
Have you listened to them then?

Gavin Matthews
12-02-2008, 02:43 PM
yes why

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 04:09 PM
Seems to me that most folks (with the exception of Darren (see above)) will slate a perceived "budget brand" before they have any experience of them & to come into a thread at the point you did with a statement like
I think these speakers sound like your listening to AM radio (No offence) without any reasons behind the statement seems to indicate such.

Gavin Matthews
12-02-2008, 04:12 PM
I have heard them so made a comment about what i thought when hearing them. I really dont think they sound good at all. Like I say to me it sounds like listening to AM radio and why would you want to play out like that?

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 04:17 PM
Are you sure it wasn't down to what was playing through them or the palyer / mixer being used?

All the Class D speakers I've heard (admittedly I have no experience of the plastic cabs) have had a warm clear sound to them. To the extent that I noticed things on certain tracks that I'd previously only ever heard through headphones, that didn't show up through Mackies or any of our other speakers.

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 04:41 PM
& this is a polite way of saying think about what you post.

There are quite a few DJs on here that use Speaker cabs with piezos in them, are you saying that those DJs are lacking in quality?



They certainly look VERY similar
Does driving a crappy car make you a crappy driver? of course not.
This is an audio quality issue.:p

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 05:28 PM
So Class D have reached the US?

Gavin Matthews
12-02-2008, 05:43 PM
Are you sure it wasn't down to what was playing through them or the palyer / mixer being used?

All the Class D speakers I've heard (admittedly I have no experience of the plastic cabs) have had a warm clear sound to them. To the extent that I noticed things on certain tracks that I'd previously only ever heard through headphones, that didn't show up through Mackies or any of our other speakers.

It was a speaker showdown and mackies happened to be one of the other speakers. The mackies sounded about 100 times better. All the other gear was the same so it was just down to the speakers

Excalibur
12-02-2008, 05:43 PM
Cerwin Vega or Class D?.............What's that all about then? http://www.cerwinvega.com/intense.php

As we all know, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Sadly, I don't know who's imitating who?:confused:







They certainly look VERY similar

See above.;)


as do certain prosound and carlsbro speakers .... much to my disgust :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

There's a very good reason for that, Dave. Didn't Darren and I allude to it earlier?;) ;) ;) ;) :D :D


Seems to me that most folks (with the exception of Darren (see above)) will slate a perceived "budget brand" before they have any experience of them & to come into a thread at the point you did with a statement like without any reasons behind the statement seems to indicate such.

I'm sure I remember saying that almost word for word earlier?:confused:



Does driving a crappy car make you a crappy driver? of course not.
This is an audio quality issue.:p

And by the same token, does driving a Rolls Royce make you a better driver?:confused:

Does running a PA system the envy of audiophiles the world over make you a better DJ? Have you heard the phrase " All the gear, no idea "?
Being a "Good" DJ is the sum of many, many parts, and it is in no way necessary to use a sound system which is perceived to be the ultimate in Audio Quality. If it sounds good enough ( and that's not a way of saying the lowest acceptable quality ) then it is good enough.

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 05:50 PM
Class D Has been around for a while now just not taken off here yet although I use a Peavey DECA 1200 watt amp in my system which I think was an attempt at class D in the late 80s. Nice clean amp @ 8 ohms a side and around 90% efficient.
Almost no heat from the fets at full 4 ohm power.
Very reliable but very touchy so make sure you have a good and same earth as your other audio components.

Excalibur
12-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Class D Has been around for a while now just not taken off here yet although I use a Peavey DECA 1200 watt amp in my system which I think was an attempt at class D in the late 80s. Nice clean amp @ 8 ohms a side and around 90% efficient.
Almost no heat from the fets at full 4 ohm power.
Very reliable but very touchy so make sure you have a good and same earth as your other audio components.

I feel you may have misunderstood something which was on here last week as well I think.

Class D is an amplifier specification, as I understand

Class-D is a ( mainly ) speaker supplier from Nottingham England. ;)

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 06:11 PM
And by the same token, does driving a Rolls Royce make you a better driver?:confused:

Does running a PA system the envy of audiophiles the world over make you a better DJ? Have you heard the phrase " All the gear, no idea "?
Being a "Good" DJ is the sum of many, many parts, and it is in no way necessary to use a sound system which is perceived to be the ultimate in Audio Quality. If it sounds good enough ( and that's not a way of saying the lowest acceptable quality ) then it is good enough.

True the pendulum swings both ways I'm sure, theres plenty wannabe DJs out there with more money than sense.
some of us are PA audiophiles though and I know I did not buy my stuff in one visit to the disco shop but spent quite a few years of trial and error (and hard earned cash) to get the sound I wanted weighted against what I could carry up stairs:o (had the huge PA and sore back) For me it has to sound right too, some may call it fussy but it's more of a curse since it costs a lot more:D
I think the reason I liked ABBA (took 20 years to admit this:) ) was for their production techniques and melodies. Then theres Led Zeplin who saw this and often recorded at the ABBA studios. With Piezo it's just an audio quality isue,
Piezo is good 50% of the time the other 50% is like fingernails down a blackboard to me.:eek:

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 06:18 PM
I feel you may have misunderstood something which was on here last week as well I think.

Class D is an amplifier specification, as I understand

Class-D is a ( mainly ) speaker supplier from Nottingham England. ;)
:o My bad, nope class D has not made it over here as far as I know but Behringer is doin well and I even Had My eye on a Europower 1500 watt amp but settled on re-building my other Makie 1400i.

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 09:07 PM
It was a speaker showdown and mackies happened to be one of the other speakers. The mackies sounded about 100 times better. All the other gear was the same so it was just down to the speakers

You do surprise me, as I have run both Class D CD15 & CD15-8s against Mackie C300z Using in all instances Denon DN HD2500 & DN X500 & by comparison the Mackies sounded harsh & toppy.

Speakers are only as good as the signal going through them & tweaking a mixer can work wonders.

The Class Ds can be run more or less flat whereas with the Mackies I had to boost the bass & cut back on the top.

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-02-2008, 09:19 PM
You do surprise me, as I have run both Class D CD15 & CD15-8s against Mackie C300z Using in all instances Denon DN HD2500 & DN X500 & by comparison the Mackies sounded harsh & toppy.

Speakers are only as good as the signal going through them & tweaking a mixer can work wonders.

The Class Ds can be run more or less flat whereas with the Mackies I had to boost the bass & cut back on the top.

Gavin uses the 450s Steve and as I currently have a set of both, I would say there is a difference in sound between those and the 300s.

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 09:21 PM
Fair enough the 300s are pants then :sj:

BeerFunk
12-02-2008, 09:31 PM
some of us are PA audiophiles though
Sorry, I've been dormant in this thread, but had to pick up on this! The phrase 'PA audiophile' is a contradiction in terms, because if you were a true audiophile, you wouldn't be able to bear the sound of any PA system :)

Tom
12-02-2008, 09:35 PM
I have an idea. I dont know if anybody will agree with me on this but here we go. I am intrested in the class-d speaker but i have never heard them before. Another thing is that people think you have to spend hundreds/thousands on speakers.

My idea was to hold a showdown. This does not mean a competition by any means but where people can turn up to show there speakers off. And i didnt intend this to be a "who's got the loudest", who cares really, i dont. Its about quality and what sounds nice to the ear.

This is what i have come up with so far,

Steve = Class-D
Darren + Twinspin = RCF
Ron = Mackie or W Audio
VV = Peavey
Myself = Studiospares Fortissimo
DJ Steve = Turbosund
Jamie = Void Audio


Thats just a few to get started with.


Would this idea be a yay or a na (and no i dont feel a bit horse :lol:)

BeerFunk
12-02-2008, 09:38 PM
Who would judge? And, how do you stop the judge knowing which sound was coming from which system, so as not to be pre-biased?

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 09:38 PM
Sorry, I've been dormant in this thread, but had to pick up on this! The phrase 'PA audiophile' is a contradiction in terms, because if you were a true audiophile, you wouldn't be able to bear the sound of any PA system :)
I'm sure a "true" audiophile would agree with you.
anyone have a more politically correct phrase?

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-02-2008, 09:42 PM
I have an idea. I dont know if anybody will agree with me on this but here we go. I am intrested in the class-d speaker but i have never heard them before. Another thing is that people think you have to spend hundreds/thousands on speakers.

My idea was to hold a showdown. This does not mean a competition by any means but where people can turn up to show there speakers off. And i didnt intend this to be a "who's got the loudest", who cares really, i dont. Its about quality and what sounds nice to the ear.

This is what i have come up with so far,

Steve = Class-D
Darren + Twinspin = RCF
Ron = Mackie or W Audio
VV = Peavey
Myself = Studiospares Fortissimo
DJ Steve = Turbosund
Jamie = Void Audio


Thats just a few to get started with.


Would this idea be a yay or a na (and no i dont feel a bit horse :lol:)

They do this regularly on 'another forum' that I use and it seems like a good idea, but there seems to be a general apathy when it comes to getting people to meets.

By the way, I also have Mackie, Kam, Yamaha and EV speakers....;)


Who would judge? And, how do you stop the judge knowing which sound was coming from which system, so as not to be pre-biased?

It's not a competition - you use the same mixer and amp combination with flat eq.

It's a way of hearing lots of different cabs in one place and socialising at the same time.

I'm up for it. :cool:


I'm sure a "true" audiophile would agree with you.
anyone have a more politically correct phrase?

Anorack? :boxer2: :D

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Maybe it's something we could think about doing in the future?

Tom
12-02-2008, 09:45 PM
Who would judge? And, how do you stop the judge knowing which sound was coming from which system, so as not to be pre-biased?

Not to sure. Was thinking one a pro sound engineer or somthing. Someone who has been working with speakers for years and knows his stuff???

Now where can we find one. lol


They do this regularly on 'another forum' that I use and it seems like a good idea, but there seems to be a general apathy when it comes to getting people to meets.

By the way, I also have Mackie, Kam, Yamaha and EV speakers....;)

OK ok. lol. If you have the room you can bring your KAM, Yamaha and EV speakers then. lol



I just it would be a good idea. We could have lots of pictures, reviews, videos ect and make a day of it. PLus forum members can meet up but i do understand it being hard to get member to meet up in one place at one time.

Solitaire Events Ltd
12-02-2008, 09:51 PM
I just it would be a good idea. We could have lots of pictures, reviews, videos ect and make a day of it. PLus forum members can meet up but i do understand it being hard to get member to meet up in one place at one time.

It's something we've done before, but not recently and not since we now have so many members.

Where would you suggest this happens Tom?

Tom
12-02-2008, 09:56 PM
I have no idea.

As MDD has members from all over uk i think it would be best suited if the location was central in the uk. Now i know some members might have to travel far and some other members might only have to travel an hour for example but what else can be done.

I know there are member from around the world but i dont think they would be able to take part in this experiment.

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 09:56 PM
so how many Anoracks does it take to change a piezo tweeter?

Penfold42
12-02-2008, 09:56 PM
My idea was to hold a showdown. This does not mean a competition by any means but where people can turn up to show there speakers off. And i didnt intend this to be a "who's got the loudest", who cares really, i dont. Its about quality and what sounds nice to the ear.

This is what i have come up with so far,

Steve = Class-D
Darren + Twinspin = RCF
Ron = Mackie or W Audio
VV = Peavey
Myself = Studiospares Fortissimo
DJ Steve = Turbosund
Jamie = Void Audio


Thats just a few to get started with.


WARRIOR, WARRIOR, WARRIOR.............:boxer2:

so how many Anoracks does it take to change a piezo tweeter?
Eh???

Tom
12-02-2008, 09:59 PM
WARRIOR, WARRIOR, WARRIOR.............:boxer2:



OK. :sorry: :cry: :moon: :lol:

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 09:59 PM
None because they try to avoid the bog as much as possible :)

Penfold42
12-02-2008, 10:01 PM
None because they try to avoid the bog as much as possible :)

Must be American humour - as that went straight over me.......:D

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 10:06 PM
The Yanks are daft so I am among friends

Corabar Steve
12-02-2008, 10:16 PM
I'm beginning to think you've been there too long

Jaggiebunnett
12-02-2008, 10:51 PM
I'm beginning to think you've been there too long
you may be right, being here has given me a greater understanding of why shrinks rake it in.:p

Dragonfly
13-02-2008, 08:03 AM
Steve = Class-D
Darren + Twinspin = RCF
Ron = Mackie or W Audio
VV = Peavey
Myself = Studiospares Fortissimo
DJ Steve = Turbosund
Jamie = Void Audio


Thats just a few to get started with.


Would this idea be a yay or a na (and no i dont feel a bit horse :lol:)

And now for the scores from the vauxhall conference :D :D :D :D :D :D


WARRIOR, WARRIOR, WARRIOR.............:boxer2:

Eh???

I'm going to see a shrink in a couple of weeks time and strangely my mum has warned me to keep my gob shut just incase they feel the need to lock me up :zip: :D :D :D :D :D

Penfold42
13-02-2008, 09:08 AM
I'm going to see a shrink in a couple of weeks time and strangely my mum has warned me to keep my gob shut just incase they feel the need to lock me up :zip: :D :D :D :D :D

You need a shrink....to say you are sane......

Now that is funny......:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :beer1:

Dragonfly
13-02-2008, 09:11 AM
You need a shrink....to say you are sane......

Now that is funny......:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :beer1:

now if he says that i will be offended :D :D :D :D

One Vision
13-02-2008, 09:35 PM
Hya fellas It sounds like for the actual money being asked for class-d gear the actual sound quality is good again for the price and they do look good.
The only real concern I have rightly or wrongly is the actual life span.
Has anybody had them for a decent amount of time and gigged regular with them?
I think its spoken for itself with the good feedback on this long thread that for the money your gonna get class-d for your gonna get quite a good sounding system for a very respectable price I think that's been proven now, so to me its just a case of now knowing if they can last the test of regular high powered gigging.

CRAZY K
13-02-2008, 09:56 PM
Hya fellas It sounds like for the actual money being asked for class-d gear the actual sound quality is good again for the price and they do look good.
The only real concern I have rightly or wrongly is the actual life span.
Has anybody had them for a decent amount of time and gigged regular with them?
I think its spoken for itself with the good feedback on this long thread that for the money your gonna get class-d for your gonna get quite a good sounding system for a very respectable price I think that's been proven now, so to me its just a case of now knowing if they can last the test of regular high powered gigging.

Im sure Steve@ Corabar has done a load of gigs with his :D

CRAZY K

Corabar Steve
13-02-2008, 09:58 PM
Had mine over a year & gig twice or three times a week with them. No issues so far.

One Vision
13-02-2008, 10:26 PM
Hya Steve thats good going then bud.

Corabar Steve
13-02-2008, 10:41 PM
Oh yes & more or less daily in both Decembers

flatliners
15-02-2008, 01:56 AM
I have an idea. I dont know if anybody will agree with me on this but here we go. I am intrested in the class-d speaker but i have never heard them before. Another thing is that people think you have to spend hundreds/thousands on speakers.

My idea was to hold a showdown. This does not mean a competition by any means but where people can turn up to show there speakers off. And i didnt intend this to be a "who's got the loudest", who cares really, i dont. Its about quality and what sounds nice to the ear.

This is what i have come up with so far,

Steve = Class-D
Darren + Twinspin = RCF
Ron = Mackie or W Audio
VV = Peavey
Myself = Studiospares Fortissimo
DJ Steve = Turbosund
Jamie = Void Audio


Thats just a few to get started with.


Would this idea be a yay or a na (and no i dont feel a bit horse :lol:)

just wondering you use the fortissimo do you use the 600w powered sub because i was looking at 1 on there website and looks simlar to my gamma sub

Totally Plucked
23-02-2008, 09:24 AM
I also use the Studiospares Fortissimo subs and tops (active) really happy bunny here, i love the stuff