What would you have done Guys????

[Mayhem 1]

Last night I was invited as a guest along with my family to a friends wedding reception.

Well where do I start??

The disco was catastrophic to say the least!!!!!!

1) Volume = far to loud for the venue (Small hotel)
2) Cables and leads were strewn all over the place
3) Absolutly no interaction with the audience or the wedding party
4) DJ spent 90% of the time on his mobile texting completely ignoring everyone
5) Put a track on and went to the bar which was in a different room and while he was in there his whole system went down leaving everything in darkness.

It was at this point that the bride and groom came up to me and asked me to "Please get up there and save their evening"

I explained that as much as I would love to it was not my gig and the hotel had sorted their resident dj.

Did I do right chaps?? or would you have stepped in?

Very tricky situation.

I do know however that the B&G were very very angry but not as much as the brides father who was in a rage of biblical proportions !!!!

[Dragonfly]

not being funny but the best piece of advice i could give a bride and groom in this situation ............. live and learn , make sure you do your homework properly it's the biggest day of your life after all.

had they met with the dj?
had they seen a website?
had they spoken to the hotel about the djs experience / why they used him etc?
had they seen testamonials known other people who had used him?

i'm guessing not ...........

[Excalibur]

Sory to hear that, and it puts you between a rock, and a hard place. On one hand you have an audience which is justifiably unhappy with the House offering, yet as has been said on here before, 99% of DJ's ( below the age of 50 apparently :p :p :D ) would not let you use their gear WITH PERMISSION, so no chance of commandeering it then, and staging a bloodless coup!:eek:

The only viable option, ( and of course it usually isn't, because you don't have it with you ) is to bring your own kit in, and pay the other guy off. I have seen this happen with some bands, but obviously I was sat there waiting to pick up the baton.

Other than the advice above ( which is usually no use ) I can offer you no crumbs of comfort, you simply can't win.:( :(

Edit: What Dragonfly said. ;)

[Tony Scott]

It's a tricky one!

1. I would have thought if the DJ was using his own kit then he wouldn't be happy to let you use it anyhow so there was nothing you could have done.

2. If the kit was the Hotel's and you had your CD's with you that would have been different. At the request of the B&G the hotel would HAVE to agree to it.

3. If you had your kit with you the B&G could then have complained about the crap DJ and insisted you took over.

This is how I see it, the B&G or Bride's Father would have to have done the tricky negotiation bit with the Hotel though. :)

[Mayhem 1]

Morning Guys,

Thanks for the reply.

From what I gather the dj was one from 9 that the disco company have on their books and he was put in there an the last moment.

The B&G did want a meeting with the disco company but they were always "Unavailble"

I have just spoken to the bride who tells me that not only have they got a refund for the evening reception the hotel has given them a free week end break!!!

Aparently her father said a few choice things !!!!!!!

[leighinstoke]

Well at least the Bride and Groom got some come-back on the *content removed*-up Garry as I can imagine that the evening was possibly ruined by this guy. I'm surprised the hotel, if using an agency, also are willing to stand for this level of service too.

I've sat in many a working mens club, etc, and witnessed discos that have left me cringing with my head in my hands or with my wife looking at me, knowing the level of amusement I'm suffering and telling me to sit down and not go and talk to the DJ. It's often hard to bite one's lip, but has to be done.

Leigh....

[Dragonfly]

The B&G did want a meeting with the disco company but they were always "Unavailble"


AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA ABANDON SHIP!!!!!!

It does annoy me slightly when people whinge because they haven't done the right checks themselves ............

on monday morning when the brides father got into his car without checking the oil etc and halfway there the engine siezed up would he then telephone the dealership and scream at them their car was :Censored: ?

my point is a client has an idea of what they want it is upto them primarily to make as sure as possible that this is what they get. im by no stretch the best dj in the world ever and im under no illusion that what i offer is what everyone wants but without communication you cannot possibly know or provide a service at 100% and the b and g should simply have bailed if they werent being afforded the service they wanted.

ok the dj went to the bar now we all probably go oooooohhhh he went to the bar ..... nooooooooo,

i work on my own sometimes and sometimes i need the toilet ...... i have to go health and hygiene dictates it and yes may have to leave a track/mix running and yes the gear may go down while im mid flow so to speak , hardly an excuse to scream rubbish.

was the dj asked to turn it down? may this have been down to inexperience? and a better course of action been "excuse me mate grannys ears are bleeding could we please turn it down a little?" instead of everyone sat with their whinge heads on moaning to each other for 5 whole hours that its way to loud and they can't hear themselves think?

cables and leads ............ don't judge others by your own admitedly great standards disappointment usually follows.

no interaction ........ firstly if the bar is in another room i have found on numerous occasions that this means that there isnt actually anyone to interact with !!!! some djs dont some make announcements and thats it , at my sisters he announced the first dance thats it .... i think he did an ok job that night. or again inexperience.

the only one which i think is bad with little or no plausable excuse is the texting and being on the phone ..... because then you just look bored and if you look bored ..... the guests will be.

[Excalibur]

Leigh: Been there, done that.............................................. ...........

Doesn't it annoy the better half, as you sit there moaning non-stop!:( :(

Dragonfly, I can see where you're coming from, but feel you're being a bit harsh. Having been at both sides, I reserve judgment, except to say that the Disco provided by the hotel was obviously " not fit for purpose". ;)

[Dragonfly]

Leigh: Been there, done that.............................................. ...........

Doesn't it annoy the better half, as you sit there moaning non-stop!:( :(

Dragonfly, I can see where you're coming from, but feel you're being a bit harsh. Having been at both sides, I reserve judgment, except to say that the Disco provided by the hotel was obviously " not fit for purpose". ;)

harsh i will accept .... the bt that got my goat was the brides father effing and jeffing .....

complain yes of course but be insensed with rage when you at no point told any provider what it was you expected from them.

next time my kids have a sports day i'll shout at them for not coming first ...... dont get me wrong i won't tell them thats what i expect just be abusive when they don't deliver.

[discomobiledj]

I'm the same, I've been to parties where I haven't been the DJ, and just sat there whinging about how bad they are, sour grapes maybe.....

Back to the topic, It's a shame that the dj was *content removed* but I'm finding this a common thing, the more lavish the reception the cheaper they want a dj.

[Andy Westcott]

Bottom line:
You are a guest, you have no jurisdiction where another DJ's equipment or performance is concerned.

If the B&G are that upset about the disco supplied, they must put their complaint in writing and demand a refund. This is the only way to help the situation in the future - hit where it hurts, which is the pocket; That way, maybe the hotel will attach a little more importace to the quality of DJ they hire.

[CRAZY K]

I'm the same, I've been to parties where I haven't been the DJ, and just sat there whinging about how bad they are, sour grapes maybe.....

Back to the topic, It's a shame that the dj was **** but I'm finding this a common thing, the more lavish the reception the cheaper they want a dj.

Sadly this is very true--

We get phone calls like--well weve spent a lot of money on the venue, food etc so we dont have much left for the Entertainment--yeah great thinking:eek: The second word is off!!!!!!!!

I think Gary the key to this is probably the PRICE.

I imagine you will find the price was so cheap for the in house DJ that they took it--instead of engaging the brain into gear and saying hmm perhaps we should check this out with Gary as its SUCH AN IMPORTANT EVENT.

Why didnt they ask you originally for some guidance when booking--not when let down on the day:eek:

See Dave Dragonflys post for the procedures:D

We are always happy to give recommendations and referrals to Wedding Customers before booking.

I am very suspicious ( unusually :whistle: ) that these people got what they paid for--but hey maybe im wrong so whats the answer???

Did you see newspaper report of the lady who ran her whole Wedding for a grand including a DJ for £120 and a £15 e bay dress:D :D :D

CRAZY K

[Excalibur]

Did you see newspaper report of the lady who ran her whole Wedding for a grand including a DJ for £120 :D :D :D

CRAZY K

As much as that? Lavish!

Seriously, it is possible get an acceptable Disco at that price if you are in certain areas. The price you pay, whilst usually an indication of quality, is not a guarantee. We can't say from looking at a price how good ( or bad :eek: ) a DJ is.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Bottom line:
You are a guest, you have no jurisdiction where another DJ's equipment or performance is concerned.



Harsh, but true.

Garry

Did the B&G not have any choice about the DJ?

[CRAZY K]

As much as that? Lavish!

Seriously, it is possible get an acceptable Disco at that price if you are in certain areas. The price you pay, whilst usually an indication of quality, is not a guarantee. We can't say from looking at a price how good ( or bad :eek: ) a DJ is.

What you know for sure is the low price needs looking at a lot more carefully than the higher one---but agreed no guarantees and you should check it out always--which of course wasnt done here.:eek:

£120?

Yes thats a reasonable hourly rate :D

CRAZY K

[Vectis]

What would I have done? Handed out some business cards :D

No seriously if I was a close friend or relative I'd probably give advice and help to make sure they get recompense; then I'd've found web review sites for the hotel/DJ/both and had my say.

[robbiedj]

I have a nephew who has run several pubs, always with entertainment.

I have known him to approach djs or live musicians with the question "Is that the best you can do?" If so he says "Then *content removed* off. I don't want you working here again"

And he has had some good acts like The Brothers Lee, China Blue and Lisa Stansfield over the years, so money wasn't the problem. He had serious words with the agents about their artists.

[DJWilson]

i would of told the B&G to talk to the hotel manager to have a word with the DJ and see if they wouldnt mind if I stepped in

[rob1963]

I would have spoken to someone in authority at the hotel & told them what the bride & groom had said to me.

If they said I could take over to try & save the night, I would gladly do so (assuming the other DJ didn't have a problem with that).

Otherwise, I wouldn't, but would let the bride & groom know that I'd spoken to the hotel & I'd tell them that the hotel would not allow me to take over.

[Shaun]

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[discomobiledj]

What you know for sure is the low price needs looking at a lot more carefully than the higher one---but agreed no guarantees and you should check it out always--which of course wasnt done here.:eek:

£120?

Yes thats a reasonable hourly rate :D

CRAZY K

That's cheap! I'm more of your £200 an hour dj :D :D :D :D

[Shakermaker Promotions]

At the end of the day, the bride and groom should have had some kind of idea that they may have been dealing with a 'dodgy outfit' etc if they kept getting 'unavailable' from them with regards to a pre-function meeting. It would have set alarm bells ringing in my head straight away and I would've been tempted to lose the deposit (if I had paid one) and got someone else in as quick as I could. Easy to say because we all know the score but some people don't and think that booking the 'disco' is easy. They have learnt a harsh lesson now and sadly with it being their special day, they'll remember it for the wrong reasons.

If I were in your shoes (and I have been before), I would have done exactly the same. No matter how harsh it may be, you can't do anything. A few years back when I was working for my mates company, I was called at 8.00pm on a saturday night (a rare night off, luckily I wasn't down the pub) and I was told "Gary, get down there and save that party, it's going pear shaped!". It was a christmas party and the DJ who was playing was using old 45's on some ancient record decks and playing totally the wrong style of music for a young crowd. He was absolutely mortified when I turned up with my equipment and got a round of applause as soon as I walked in with the gear. He actually refused to move out of the way and I felt really sorry for him because it must have felt really embarassing for him to have me turning up to replace him. People were actually getting their coats ready to leave and there was abuse flying from every direction, it was a horrible situation.

The guy was in his 60's and said to me "This is disgusting. In all my years doing this I have never felt so embarassed" and he finally started to pack up his stuff. I was up and going in mega quick time and as soon as I played the first track, people were up dancing and on the tables too. I had loads of people coming up to me shaking my hand and kissing me to thank me for saving the night and as soon as the other DJ had left the building, I got on the mic and said "Ok folks, shall we have a proper party now!!?"..the place went mad and it was a great night.

The reason I mentioned that was because it wasn't nice going in there and doing that and I really felt for the other bloke. It doesn't matter how rubbish this DJ at your function was, you have to just bite your lip and leave it. I wouldn't do what I did again because I felt really bad. I wonder if the DJ at your function actually gave a stuff or realised that he was going down like a lead balloon?

[PropellerHeadCase]

I wonder if the DJ at your function actually gave a stuff or realised that he was going down like a lead balloon?

Well, unless he was texting an older, more experienced DJ for song suggestions I'd say he didn't give a monkey's.

[wensleydale]

not being funny but the best piece of advice i could give a bride and groom in this situation ............. live and learn , make sure you do your homework properly it's the biggest day of your life after all.

had they met with the dj?
had they seen a website?
had they spoken to the hotel about the djs experience / why they used him etc?
had they seen testamonials known other people who had used him?

i'm guessing not ...........

i'm sure that will come in handy for their next wedding.

i think the comments about a quiet word with the manager were spot on- if they knew people were not happy they should have a worfd with the dj,

[Excalibur]

i would of told the B&G to talk to the hotel manager to have a word with the DJ and see if they wouldnt mind if I stepped in

And if the DJ said hands off my gear????? A laudable intention, but I feel you have a lot to learn. ;) :D


I would have spoken to someone in authority at the hotel & told them what the bride & groom had said to me.

If they said I could take over to try & save the night, I would gladly do so (assuming the other DJ didn't have a problem with that).

Otherwise, I wouldn't, but would let the bride & groom know that I'd spoken to the hotel & I'd tell them that the hotel would not allow me to take over.

Rob, stop talking sense, you know how it upsets me! ;) :D

Shaker, I understand completely what you are saying, for arguments sake let's say the B&G were told:
1) You must have our resident DJ, a not uncommon occurrence. Is it worth arguing with the place you're having your day of days at, possibly antagonising them ? And bear in mind, you probably don't attach the same level of importance to a DJ as we do.

2) You are dealing with a business who are going to take thousands of pounds from you, and you have discussed many ( in our eyes ) minor details for hours! :eek: At this point, can you believe that such a prestigious company will be dealing with a £50 in cash no questions chancer who's probably on the dole? :confused: :eek:

Just playing Devil's Advocate, on behalf of the B&G. ;)

Wensleydale, I agree with that theory, but wonder , on what we have been told, if speaking to this " DJ " would have alleviated the problems at all? I think we sometimes forget that not all DJ's adhere to the principles which most of us on here hold dear.

[rob1963]

Rob, stop talking sense, you know how it upsets me! ;) :D

Excalibur,

As you know, I ALWAYS talk sense.....

.....although I admit that not everyone is aware of the fact!

:D :D :D

[Tom]

well its new to me. lol

[Corabar Steve]

& me.

[rob1963]

Excalibur,

As you know, I ALWAYS talk sense.....

.....although I admit that not everyone is aware of the fact!

:D :D :D


well its new to me. lol


& me.

Exactly...that's why I said that not everyone is aware of the fact!

:p

[Corabar Steve]

It's not so much being aware of the fact, more that the fact doesn't actually exist :sj:

[PropellerHeadCase]

de-fact-0 ;)

[rob1963]

It's not so much being aware of the fact, more that the fact doesn't actually exist :sj:

...which is what anyone who wasn't aware of the fact would think!

:p

[Corabar Steve]

But it doesn't :P

[PropellerHeadCase]

...which is what anyone who wasn't aware of the fact would think!

Which is what anyone who held up a mistaken belief as fact would say :p

[Corabar Steve]

Indeed :sj:

[rob1963]

:offtopic:

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Last night I was invited as a guest along with my family to a friends wedding reception.

Well where do I start??

The disco was catastrophic to say the least!!!!!!

1) Volume = far to loud for the venue (Small hotel)
2) Cables and leads were strewn all over the place
3) Absolutly no interaction with the audience or the wedding party
4) DJ spent 90% of the time on his mobile texting completely ignoring everyone
5) Put a track on and went to the bar which was in a different room and while he was in there his whole system went down leaving everything in darkness.

It was at this point that the bride and groom came up to me and asked me to "Please get up there and save their evening"

I explained that as much as I would love to it was not my gig and the hotel had sorted their resident dj.

Did I do right chaps?? or would you have stepped in?

Very tricky situation.

I do know however that the B&G were very very angry but not as much as the brides father who was in a rage of biblical proportions !!!!


To be honest Garry I think you done everyone you could have done.
there's no way you could have used his gear which means the only other thing would have been to go back to yours, load up, drive back, setup and start but by the time you've done that it would be pointless.

The only other thing i would have done is go to the DJ. Chat with him. ask him nicely to play what everyone wants to hear and be more professional maybe even give him some tips and advice:D and maybe ask him if he would like you to take over. Be friendly about it.

At the end of the day the DJ should not have taken the gig up if he was not ready and experienced enough to do the job in hand as this is their day of their life’s and not just somewhere to get a bit of practice in on the decks

but on the other hand the clients should have done there own research on the DJ on make there own minds up if they think he’s suitable for the job.

I think there’s plenty of lessons to be learnt from this mistake... from both sides of the table.

Spud

[Corabar Steve]

:offtopic:

& you started it

[rob1963]

The only other thing i would have done is go to the DJ. Chat with him. ask him nicely to play what everyone wants to hear and be more professional maybe even give him some tips and advice:D and maybe ask him if he would like you to take over.

And how do you think that would have gone down?

[theoloyla]

In most situations I find friendly diplomacy works. Dont approach another dj and tell him he is doing it wrong and you know how to do it better. Approach him and make requests and suggestions that may rescue the evening. If he doesnt respond then the organizers must complain to the management to resolve the situation.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Yeah but come on...how much does it do your head in when you know you have the experience and skills to deal with all kinds of functions and someone comes up to you and tries to tell you how to do your job (politely or not so polite)?

"You should play such and such a track mate, it will fill the floor guaranteed..etc" - When the track that they have suggested has already been played and done it's job well or it's totally the wrong track.

"Hi mate, I used to be a DJ.." - Er...yeah....and? What do you want?..a medal?

It happened to me again at the wedding I was doing at the weekend and I had to get my point across very clearly. Once again it was the person at the hotel who I have mentioned before who thinks that anything that isn't RnB is 'wierd'. She asked me what was I playing at the start of the evening when it was pretty quiet and relaxed. It was background music but stuff that had been requested by the bride and groom. The track in question was a classic actually 'Iris' by the Goo Goo Dolls.

I hate people telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing. I don't mind constructive criticism but as I said, I am experienced enough to deal with most situations and having some sales manager that isn't very good at her job try to tell or advise me what to play at someone's wedding is a joke. She even said to me at one point "Can you make sure you play T2 and H-Two-O before I leave at 10pm. I replied in the nicest possible way "It's their wedding not a request show for you" and she stormed off in a huff.

Thankfully, a new events co-ordinator starts today who I will be meeting later.

At the end of the day, whether I am doing a really good job or a really bad job in someone elses eyes, I would be really narked off if someone else came over and told me that they were asked to replace me and could they use my gear. I would try my hardest to turn it around and if that didn't work...well, unless I am in that situation I don't know.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

It happened to me again at the wedding I was doing at the weekend

You didn't see Mayhem there did you?:eek: :D :D :eek:

[Shaun]

In most situations I find friendly diplomacy works. Dont approach another dj and tell him he is doing it wrong and you know how to do it better. Approach him and make requests and suggestions that may rescue the evening. If he doesnt respond then the organizers must complain to the management to resolve the situation.

My thoughts exactly.

[Excalibur]

Come on fellas, be honest! How many of us/you would react to someone coming up and saying to you " Sorry mate, but the B& G would like to replace you, cos you're not good enough. Would you be so good as to step aside, and let me use your gear, since fortunately I happen to be an ace DJ, and can save the day " , with a cheery, " Of course my friend, why not. To tell you the truth, I was hoping somebody would say that, I appear to have struggled somewhat so far. " :confused: ;)

It's easy to say what you think should be done, but how would you feel if the roles were reversed?:confused: :confused: :confused: ;) ;)
Excalibur, Devil's advocate to the stars. :D

Remember the old and trusted adage: " Please do not insult the DJ, as a smack in the gob often offends." ;) :D

[Have a disco]

MY only comments can be glad it wasn't me HA HA HA HA HA HA LOL

bad planning all around me thinks from the bride and groom to the Hotel management to the DJ himself of which all could be to blame at one level or another

Aproach and rescue a DJ if I knew him then yes I would. If I didnt know him oh no I wouldnt as not wishing to get into a fight over there priceless equuipment etc etc

very hard decisions alround as I can see but in general I would be laughing my socks off at the whole thing unfolding LOL

[Excalibur]

MY only comments can be glad it wasn't me HA HA HA HA HA HA LOL

bad planning all around me thinks from the bride and groom to the Hotel management to the DJ himself of which all could be to blame at one level or another

Aproach and rescue a DJ if I knew him then yes I would. If I didnt know him oh no I wouldnt as not wishing to get into a fight over there priceless equuipment etc etc

very hard decisions alround as I can see but in general I would be laughing my socks off at the whole thing unfolding LOL

Without wishing to get into a slanging match, public or otherwise I basically agree with the middle line of your post, but I find your previous and subsequent lines both unhelpful, childish, and unprofessional.

Chacun a son gout.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

You'd be laughing at a friend or relation whose party was being ruined?

What a lovely thing to say.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Which is why I / We are there to do a decent job for people and get the gigs. If someone in the venue thinks that they can do a better job then maybe they should have been booked rather than us eh?

If someone came up to me (depending on the situation) and said what you have mentioned above, I would find it very very hard to keep my cool but then again I always make sure I meet the customers beforehand to go through everything so I know the score. As I mentioned earlier on in the thread, I think the B & G could have been more insistent on meeting the DJ / Company beforehand too so they were taking a chance to put it mildly.

That was a reply to Excalibur's post.

[Excalibur]

Calm down, calm down!;) :D

My post was not designed to incite fisticuffs, just to show some people who have been a trifle quick to suggest almost elbowing the other DJ out of the way, and commandeering his gear on the grounds that he wasn't good enough, that if the boot was on the other foot it might not be very nice.

Do bear in mind, as I have posted earlier, that the B&G might quite rightly have put their faith in the hotel management to provide a disco of the standard of the whole wedding package. We only place so much importance on the Disco, cos we're DJ's, and look at it more form our point of view. Remember also, that we don't know the whole story, so should be careful of making too many judgments. I am only too pleased to speak to customers about their forthcoming events, but you might be surprised how many never express that desire themselves. It is by no means unusual to only meet the B&G for the first time at the wedding reception! ( I would like to think that this shows their confidence in the judgment of the Venue management who have booked me, but in all honesty, I think it's just that many folk still attach too little importance to the Disco, and are sick of making arrangements ;) )

Shaker, if I have misinterpreted the tone of your post, sorry. I just wanted to show that there are usually two sides to every story, and it is often useful to try to see the other persons point of view. ;)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Excalibur - Firstly, if you read my "That was a reply to Excalibur's post" comment you'll see that I'm agreeing with you to some extent. I don't think you have read it the wrong way and I wasn't being 'funny' is you want to look it that way.

I have to say though, I always try whenever possible, to meet the customers no matter what the function is and would find it quite wierd (for me anyway) meeting them for the first time actually on the night of their function. Of course, everyone is different and we all have our own way of doing things so all I can report is what works for me and that is that I always try to meet the customer beforehand. I've never had anyone say that they don't want to or can't meet up and every single one of them has complimented the fact that I have gone out of my way to meet them. To me though, it's not going out of my way and is all part of the job.

Back to the topic though - Like I said, if some dude came over to me in his cape and 'Super DJ' t-shirt in order to save the day...well, I would pretty narked off to say the least. As for someone touching my gear....No! get your own!!

[CRAZY K]

Excalibur - Firstly, if you read my "That was a reply to Excalibur's post" comment you'll see that I'm agreeing with you to some extent. I don't think you have read it the wrong way and I wasn't being 'funny' is you want to look it that way.

I have to say though, I always try whenever possible, to meet the customers no matter what the function is and would find it quite wierd (for me anyway) meeting them for the first time actually on the night of their function. Of course, everyone is different and we all have our own way of doing things so all I can report is what works for me and that is that I always try to meet the customer beforehand. I've never had anyone say that they don't want to or can't meet up and every single one of them has complimented the fact that I have gone out of my way to meet them. To me though, it's not going out of my way and is all part of the job.

Back to the topic though - Like I said, if some dude came over to me in his cape and 'Super DJ' t-shirt in order to save the day...well, I would pretty narked off to say the least. As for someone touching my gear....No! get your own!!

Theres a lot of theory been posted and some good ideas.

Gary--can you confirm what the price was and as Daz said---did the DJ come with the Hotel?

That will make things very much clearer to comment on.

CRAZY K

[Excalibur]

Back to the topic though - Like I said, if some dude came over to me in his cape and 'Super DJ' t-shirt in order to save the day...well, I would pretty narked off to say the least. As for someone touching my gear....No! get your own!!

Which is exactly the point I've been trying to get across to some of the superheroes on here! :D :bang:

Glad we're mainly singing off the same hymnsheet Sir.:D

[theoloyla]

Yeah but come on...how much does it do your head in when you know you have the experience and skills to deal with all kinds of functions and someone comes up to you and tries to tell you how to do your job (politely or not so polite)?

"You should play such and such a track mate, it will fill the floor guaranteed..etc" - When the track that they have suggested has already been played and done it's job well or it's totally the wrong track.

"Hi mate, I used to be a DJ.." - Er...yeah....and? What do you want?..a medal?

It happened to me again at the wedding I was doing at the weekend and I had to get my point across very clearly. Once again it was the person at the hotel who I have mentioned before who thinks that anything that isn't RnB is 'wierd'. She asked me what was I playing at the start of the evening when it was pretty quiet and relaxed. It was background music but stuff that had been requested by the bride and groom. The track in question was a classic actually 'Iris' by the Goo Goo Dolls.

I hate people telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing. I don't mind constructive criticism but as I said, I am experienced enough to deal with most situations and having some sales manager that isn't very good at her job try to tell or advise me what to play at someone's wedding is a joke. She even said to me at one point "Can you make sure you play T2 and H-Two-O before I leave at 10pm. I replied in the nicest possible way "It's their wedding not a request show for you" and she stormed off in a huff.



At the end of the day, whether I am doing a really good job or a really bad job in someone elses eyes, I would be really narked off if someone else came over and told me that they were asked to replace me and could they use my gear. I would try my hardest to turn it around and if that didn't work...well, unless I am in that situation I don't know.
That was my point! If someone comes up to me and tells me that they are a dj and I am doing it all wrong then I get the hump. What I said was go up and request what you know is needed and will work. "Can you turn it down a bit please? Can you play some..." Dont come the big I am and show off. It doesnt help.
I have gone on record before as saying that I dont mind other dj's having a go on my gear; so if the organizern asks me nicely I will usually give someone a short guest spot. I generally tell them "a couple of tunes" but if they are any good I might let them do 15 mins or half an hour BUT if I was told that I was no good and that I should let someone else take over using my gear the answer would be an emphatic "No!" If I was having a bad night and couldnt get them up to dance then the guest dj could be the answer. If he fails then I know its not my fault. If he succeeds and gets them on the dancefloor then it is easier to keep them there.

[Excalibur]

Theres a lot of theory been posted and some good ideas.

Gary--can you confirm what the price was and as Daz said---did the DJ come with the Hotel?

That will make things very much clearer to comment on.

CRAZY K

See also post#25.I'm not letting Darren have all the credit.;)


That was my point! If someone comes up to me and tells me that they are a dj and I am doing it all wrong then I get the hump. What I said was go up and request what you know is needed and will work. "Can you turn it down a bit please? Can you play some..." Dont come the big I am and show off. It doesnt help.
I have gone on record before as saying that I dont mind other dj's having a go on my gear; so if the organizern asks me nicely I will usually give someone a short guest spot. I generally tell them "a couple of tunes" but if they are any good I might let them do 15 mins or half an hour BUT if I was told that I was no good and that I should let someone else take over using my gear the answer would be an emphatic "No!" If I was having a bad night and couldnt get them up to dance then the guest dj could be the answer. If he fails then I know its not my fault. If he succeeds and gets them on the dancefloor then it is easier to keep them there.

Theo, why is it that us old un's seem to make the most sensible comments, do you think? :confused: :confused: ;) :D :D

[Dragonfly]

See also post#25.I'm not letting Darren have all the credit.;)



Theo, why is it that us old un's seem to make the most sensible comments, do you think? :confused: :confused: ;) :D :D

ahem !!!!!






was the dj asked to turn it down? may this have been down to inexperience? and a better course of action been "excuse me mate grannys ears are bleeding could we please turn it down a little?" instead of everyone sat with their whinge heads on moaning to each other for 5 whole hours that its way to loud and they can't hear themselves think?

cables and leads ............ don't judge others by your own admitedly great standards disappointment usually follows.

no interaction ........ firstly if the bar is in another room i have found on numerous occasions that this means that there isnt actually anyone to interact with !!!! some djs dont some make announcements and thats it , at my sisters he announced the first dance thats it .... i think he did an ok job that night. or again inexperience.

the only one which i think is bad with little or no plausable excuse is the texting and being on the phone ..... because then you just look bored and if you look bored ..... the guests will be.

[Excalibur]

ahem !!!!!

Disallowed Dave, on the grounds that you're a mere child. :p :D :D :D

[dmckaraoke]

A new super hero has been born........Super djjjjjjjjj hes faster than a speedin bullet(sets up his gear in second flat)and hes plays the most perfect playlist ever(everyones leaves the venue with a smile on there face)and off course cheap as chips........

How would you contact this man no ones knows he just appears when some idot of a dj has been booked...

Coming to a dance floor near you soon..........


Just to put a bit fun back into this thread

[Dragonfly]

Disallowed Dave, on the grounds that you're a mere child. :p :D :D :D


oooohhhhhh you cruel nasty man ;) :D :D :D :D :D

[Excalibur]

oooohhhhhh you cruel nasty man ;) :D :D :D :D :D

It was meant to be a compliment!:bang: :D :D

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Crazy K - You asked me about price and hotel etc but it's not me you should be asking mate. I am commenting on this topic like everyone else. I believe the topic starter could answer that for you.

[CRAZY K]

Crazy K - You asked me about price and hotel etc but it's not me you should be asking mate. I am commenting on this topic like everyone else. I believe the topic starter could answer that for you.

Sorry for that, I was asking Gary to post again as he started this and now seems to have err disappeared:D :D :D

Gary are you out there ;)

CRAZY K

[Jaggiebunnett]

I'm the same, I've been to parties where I haven't been the DJ, and just sat there whinging about how bad they are, sour grapes maybe.....

Back to the topic, It's a shame that the dj was *content removed* but I'm finding this a common thing, the more lavish the reception the cheaper they want a dj.
we are our own worst judges so what chance has anyone else:D

[Excalibur]

Sorry for that, I was asking Gary to post again as he started this and now seems to have err disappeared:D :D :D

Gary are you out there ;)

CRAZY K

As someone who struggles to remember names, I often have to check profiles to work out who is being referred to. After extensive research Alan, it appears you are deficient by one " r " and are seeking " Garry". ;)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Yeah, sorry mate...I read 'Gary' and thought you were asking me...I'm Gary with one 'r'.

[theoloyla]

See also post#25.I'm not letting Darren have all the credit.;)



Theo, why is it that us old un's seem to make the most sensible comments, do you think? :confused: :confused: ;) :D :D
Age, experience and wisdom often (but not always) go together.

[CRAZY K]

As someone who struggles to remember names, I often have to check profiles to work out who is being referred to. After extensive research Alan, it appears you are deficient by one " r " and are seeking " Garry". ;)

So I am--apologies--must be the excitement of going on Holiday and flying off from Heathrow---

Always good to know the Aircraft that crashed at Heathrow had nothing wrong the experts could find--everything working fine it seems--Yahoo news:confused:

I feel really confident now thats sorted out :eek: :eek: :eek:

CRAZY K

[andyw]

firstly, if someone came up to me on a saturday night and said"i'm here to save this function i am a good dj and everyone thinks you are not so good(or similar words), my reply would be so why are you not working tonight,your a friend of the brides so why didn't they book you.
at the moment this dj is getting a lot of blame when none of us know all the facts
volume too loud,why didnt anyone ask him to turn it down was he totally unapproachable
cables aand leads not neat. no real excuse for that apart from inexpirience
no interaction i take that to mean not a lot of mike work not all dj's do that
texting on the phone,was it 90% of the time really if so he was out of order but i know a lot of dj's that text each other from gigs to see how they are getting on.
music going down while he was at the bar could happen to any of us from that remark i take it he got it back up and running quite soon so he done something right.
the reason i say we don't know all the circumstances is because the agency were not available for meetings it sounds to me like this lad might of been emergency cover and brought in at the last minute and doing he's best.

[Mayhem 1]

The DJ was part of the hotel package.

[Excalibur]

firstly, if someone came up to me on a saturday night and said"i'm here to save this function i am a good dj and everyone thinks you are not so good(or similar words), my reply would be so why are you not working tonight,your a friend of the brides so why didn't they book you.


Because the clue is in the question, " your a friend of the brides " ;) and obviously there as a guest, not staff. ( Even though many of us prefer the latter, but our better halves don't ! )


The DJ was part of the hotel package.

A man of few words, there. I hope I am justified in assuming:
1) The B&G were "advised " to go with the package because it's one less thing to worry about.
2) That they were advised that any DJ used would be up to the required standard, cos they wouldn't use anyone substandard would they?

[CRAZY K]

The DJ was part of the hotel package.

Any idea of the price Garry--or maybe not?

regards

CRAZY K

[Mayhem 1]

Sorry Crazy Mate dunno that until the B&G get back from Honeymoon

[drb]

If the disco came with the Hotal package and the clients were compensated accordingly because of equipment breakdown,(and that's really what the problem was).
The other factor was the "music was too loud",(sound familiar?).
These are the main points from the clients point of view.All the other stuff was from another dj's point of view.
Interaction with the audience is subjective really.
The point being that if a dj has an "all singing and dancing" set-up and keeps talking on the microphone that is a success.Don't think so!
Check your equipment before hand
Try and set up as early as possible,(beware of organisers!)
Background music for a while,(meet and greet)

Talk to your client and be nice!( Yes i know...easily said than done!)
We do this stuff because we enjoy it.A function is NOT to inflate our egos but to provide a service,especially at a wedding.No-one cares what technology you have and what it looks like.Play requests and do what the client wants.Than get everyone dancing for a while.Get paid.Pack up,(i hate that bit!).Go home. End of.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Too much snobbiness on this issue if you ask me!

What does that mean? :confused:

[Excalibur]

What does that mean? :confused:

Don't know, but I think DRB may have himself misunderstood some of the issues in the original post? Don't think equipment breakdown ws mentioned anywhere? :confused:

[drb]

"Put a track on and went to the bar which was in a different room and while he was in there his whole system went down leaving everything in darkness."

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

And the snobbiness?

[Excalibur]

"Put a track on and went to the bar which was in a different room and while he was in there his whole system went down leaving everything in darkness."

Point taken, but if the record had finished, and lights were on Sound to light with no music:- Total silence, total darkness, but not a breakdown. Just the way I read it, obviously it's open to interpretation, as are one or two other things. We must be careful about making staterments based on incomplete knowledge. ( Mind you, it's never stopped Rob Roy before. ;) :D )

Is the snobbiness perhaps the rather Gung Ho attitude of some of our younger posters wanting to shove the poor twerp out of the way, commandeer his gear, and show him how brill they are? :confused: ;)

[Dragonfly]

( Mind you, it's never stopped Rob Roy before. ;) )

You mean Ron???? :D

[Excalibur]

You mean Ron???? :D

No. You know the fella, last saw him going by the name "Roz" :confused: ;)

[drb]

And the snobbiness?

Sorry,i took that bit out in the final comment.It's gone now.
It looks like i have put my hand in a dogfight here.It's just that stuff happens sometimes.As stated,the couple in question were compensated.

If i was asked i would of said no to be honest.It's his gig.Full stop.

[Excalibur]

And the snobbiness?

It's alright Darren, we've got used to you now.;) :D

[rob1963]

We must be careful about making ****ing staterments based on incomplete knowledge. ( Mind you, it's never stopped Rob Roy before. ;) :D )

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I am the oracle...I only speak the truth.

[Corabar Steve]

:jawdrop:

I am the oracle...I only speak the truth.

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