New Mixer

[groovy-nights]

After a new mixer getting sick of carrying round more flightcase then i need to.I am replacing a xone 62.Has anyone used any of the following.
Xone s2
pioneer DJM1000
Vestax PMC-CX

[Adam_F]

Only really had a good play on the DJM 1000, and as with all Pioneer mixers, they are awesome in both build and sound quality.

Within that price bracket, I'd personally go for a Korg Zero 8, but more for production use and live remixing with Ableton, so probably not really what your looking for.

The Vestax one does not feel like a £1000 mixer to be honest, and only being 3 channels and no midi lets it down. However the filters sound nice.

[Andy Goodtimes]

I'm a big fan of Pioneer...personally I use the DJM3000 which is a fairly new 19inch/5U model with all the toys and effects but all the Pioneers I have ever used have been nice...not saying there's anything wrong with the rest, just my preference.

[groovy-nights]

It will be linked up to a denon dn-hd2500.And depending how things go a pair of cdj 1000mk3
Must be 19" rack mount

[flatliners]

why do you need to spend 1000pounds on a mixer
but if you are check out rane they do some great mixers and build is fantastic

[Corabar Steve]

Is that what you use then?

[groovy-nights]

Think i will need to make a trip to see adam.
Flatliners Having used a allen & Heath for 2 years and never had the meters in the yellow and ran the system loud.£1000 on a mixer is not that much as it is the heart of the audio system.

[djsteve10]

To be honest if you set a Denon mixer up properly as in set the gain just past 12 oclock and the channel faders at full it will sound just as good as a Allen & Heath Mixer.

It is all about how you set up your mixer too rather than splashing out aload of cash on a mixer.

[Tom]

To be honest if you set a Denon mixer up properly as in set the gain just past 12 oclock and the channel faders at full it will sound just as good as a Allen & Heath Mixer.

It is all about how you set up your mixer too rather than splashing out aload of cash on a mixer.

i agree with you there steve.

bit off topic but its like giving a beginer drummer a massive ott drum kit. it wont make them play any better, maby look stupid but the same thing applys to dj's.

If you cant set up your gear correctly then it will sound naff what ever make it is.

[BeerFunk]

Think i will need to make a trip to see adam.
Flatliners Having used a allen & Heath for 2 years and never had the meters in the yellow and ran the system loud.£1000 on a mixer is not that much as it is the heart of the audio system.The mixer is only supposed to deal with line level sources, it's the amp which does the amplifying (obviously). I don't see how not going into the red makes it a good mixer.


To be honest if you set a Denon mixer up properly as in set the gain just past 12 oclock and the channel faders at full it will sound just as good as a Allen & Heath Mixer.

It is all about how you set up your mixer too rather than splashing out aload of cash on a mixer.True to a certain extent, I doubt if most could tell the difference. If I invested in a A&H mixer, I'd be a bit disappointed if I couldn't hear a definite improvement in the quality!

[PropellerHeadCase]

The mixer is only supposed to deal with line level sources, it's the amp which does the amplifying (obviously). I don't see how not going into the red makes it a good mixer.

It's a pre-amplifier (input gain, channel gain and master) - amplifying an already distorted line-level signal is bad.

[djsteve10]

I once saw a DJ who has an Ecler SCALT 8 Mixer, same as what i have at the moment, and he had his gains 3 quarters of the way around and the faders were up at probably a quarter of the way, To be honest it sounded absolutley shocking, Distorted to hell and there was no clairty to it, After a few words i set it up the way i have been taught and it sounded 100% better,
It all comes down to the gear operator, know how to use it properly and you will get the best from it!

[DJ James Lake]

I went from a Pioneer DJM 500 to an Allen & Heath Xone3d and I must say the difference in quality was amazing, it was like having a whole new sound system.

So I would say yes a good mixer can make a huge difference.

[flatliners]

a mate of mine uses an old toa mixer and it sounds the dogs balierics

[Danno13]

It all comes down to the gear operator, know how to use it properly and you will get the best from it!

Ok.. well say both the Denon user and the Allen & Heath user knew how to set it up properly, are you saying there still wouldn't be any difference?

Yes, you can make a high quality mixer sound crap, but you can't make a lower quality one sound any better than its components and build allow.

[martink]

Think If i was after a new mixer, I'd look at Urei from Hard to find, they've got some sweet deals on them.

[Corabar Steve]

Think If i was after a new mixer, I'd look at Urei I've heard good things about them, but all the ones I've seen are bloody huge!

[martink]

I know what you mean, but if you can live with sound quality is 'sposed to be great.

[Adam_F]

Think i will need to make a trip to see adam.


I've got the S2 and the DJM 1000 which I can get out for you to have a play with.


Think If i was after a new mixer, I'd look at Urei from Hard to find, they've got some sweet deals on them.

We have indeed :D

[One Vision]

After a new mixer getting sick of carrying round more flightcase then i need to.I am replacing a xone 62.Has anyone used any of the following.
Xone s2
pioneer DJM1000
Vestax PMC-CX

Are these mixers actualy so much better to warant their prices?
I have no doubt they are goanna be better than say a £200 one but how much better?
Seems a hell of a price for a mobile disco :Meeting:

[Jaggiebunnett]

It's a pre-amplifier (input gain, channel gain and master) - amplifying an already distorted line-level signal is bad.
I agree totaly.
Theres an old saying here in the US.
s*** in, s*** out.

[groovy-nights]

Having a meeting with allen & heath rep so looks like i will be the happy owner of a s2 mixer

[DJ James Lake]

Are these mixers actualy so much better to warant their prices?
I have no doubt they are goanna be better than say a £200 one but how much better?
Seems a hell of a price for a mobile disco :Meeting:

My Allen & Heath Xone3d cost £1400 and its used for mobiles and in my opinion was worth every penny.

You could look at it another way, with all the moving about that a mixer takes on mobiles the better the build quality the more reliable it should be.

I have had various mixers over the years and gone through most of them over time. One thing I will say about the Allen & Heath mixers and Pioneer is that if you do manage to break one they can be repaired.

Unlike cheaper mixers which most place wont bother trying to fix.

[groovy-nights]

Also one thing to add most of the allen & Heath mixers are built in the uk.Best price i found for a s2 is £699

[DJ James Lake]

Also one thing to add most of the allen & Heath mixers are built in the uk.Best price i found for a s2 is £699

I think you will find that they are now built in China, but spares are readily available from A&H UK. Allen & Heaths service dept is in the Uk and in terms of customer support is second to none

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Also one thing to add most of the allen & Heath mixers are built in the uk.Best price i found for a s2 is £699

Where was that?

[groovy-nights]

www.djsupplies.co.uk

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Good price.

(Unless you have trade accounts ;) )

[groovy-nights]

Best price i can find.Maybe we could do a deal:beer1:

[flatliners]

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/mixers/rane/mm8z this will be the dogs used a rane mixer once it was like a good looking woman nice to play with

[A1DL]

what's so great about that Rane, Shaun?

it doesn't look like there are any channel gain pots :confused:
also very short channel faders :(

sure, Rane gear has a nice solid feel about it, but that particular model doesn't look particularly exciting, unless I'm missing something?

give me a CXM or a Formula Sound instead any day.

[Corabar Steve]

why do you need to spend 1000pounds on a mixer
but if you are check out rane they do some great mixers and build is fantastic

Is that what you use then?
http://www.decks.co.uk/products/mixers/rane/mm8z this will be the dogs used a rane mixer once it was like a good looking woman nice to play with
So that's a no then.

[groovy-nights]

Ordered a S2 today will be with me tomorrow