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UltraBeat Entertainment
28-02-2008, 10:22 AM
Sometime this month i wish to upgrade my lighting and want a 2 head lighting effect that i will use to light up the dance floor. they will be used with 2 blowstar/mushroom effects and an ImpossiabLED, 2xLightscreens:D and a LED moving message sign.

After some research i found the best lights for the job would be:
Acme Magic Gobo (2 head pack)
NJD Datamoon (2 head pack)

So after reading older threads about these lights i thought i would ask everyone for their opinions on these effects and what you think is better.

I want to be able to control the effects so that i can stop them rotating and slow them down for the beginning of the night then speed them up later on and be able to make them strobe and blackout on demand. also being able to control Gobo, speed would be a great bonus. (So in other worlds would like a small controller)

If you think there are any other lights that are better than the ones I've found feel free to post them for me:D

My budget is around £250 for both lights, controller, cables (and maybe even cases if budget will stretch.)

Thanks in advance.

Vectis
28-02-2008, 10:23 AM
My budget is around £250 for both lights, controller, cables (and maybe even cases if budget will stretch.)


Never seen the acmes but use the datamoons and wouldn't consider replacing them with anything else.

Shop around - I've seen the kit with the (really substantial) flightcase for as low as £210 recently.

Solitaire Events Ltd
28-02-2008, 10:35 AM
I've had both and the Datamoons are brighter. I seem to remember the Magic Gobos only being 100W? I remember them being moe compact than the Datamoons though.

If you want the controller to make them scroll and spin slowly, then get the Datamoons. The controller you get with them as a package is very easy to use and make them do what you want them to do.

UltraBeat Entertainment
28-02-2008, 10:41 AM
I've had both and the Datamoons are brighter. I seem to remember the Magic Gobos only being 100W? I remember them being moe compact than the Datamoons though.


This is true they are only 100w and have often wondered if this would be bright enough but have heard they are still very bright.


If you want the controller to make them scroll and spin slowly, then get the Datamoons.

One thing i have heard from a seller that sells the Datamoon is abit old fashioned and old technology and can get boring as its a simple effect. They recommended me the Acme Magic Gobo's because of the way the work together and go in and out of synx to make it look more impressive and interesting. Is this true?

h8ytr
28-02-2008, 10:43 AM
the EVL spins have a slow scolling button, great for weddings...

Solitaire Events Ltd
28-02-2008, 10:50 AM
This is true they are only 100w and have often wondered if this would be bright enough but have heard they are still very bright.


They are bright enough, but not quite as bright as the Datamoons.


One thing i have heard from a seller that sells the Datamoon is abit old fashioned and old technology and can get boring as its a simple effect. They recommended me the Acme Magic Gobo's because of the way the work together and go in and out of synx to make it look more impressive and interesting. Is this true?

Not sure about that. A moonflower is a moonflower. They spin round and change gobo and colour.

Solitaire Events Ltd
28-02-2008, 10:50 AM
Guys please remember the rules about selling stuff on the forum.

pulsemobiledisco
28-02-2008, 11:11 AM
Don't forget to look at Acme Puma's. I used to use Datamoon's and they are a great effect. I have since changed to Puma's and I think they a little better. There are more programs and they are a little more compact than the data moon. You can pick up a pair for about £180. Cases are about £80 and hold two heads.

h8ytr
28-02-2008, 11:18 AM
oops sorry, didn't read them!

UltraBeat Entertainment
28-02-2008, 11:21 AM
Don't forget to look at Acme Puma's

Just seen a video of them in action. I'm not to impressed to be honest. Gobo's don't seem to be very clear, seems to be a shaky movement and the programs look abit in dependant like there not DMX but that could be just a bad video. Any good links:D

Spirits High
28-02-2008, 11:33 AM
the EVL spins have a slow scolling button, great for weddings...


I use my pair like that on the Open gobo so with a little bit of haze nice white rotating beams!

pulsemobiledisco
28-02-2008, 04:50 PM
Just seen a video of them in action. I'm not to impressed to be honest. Gobo's don't seem to be very clear, seems to be a shaky movement and the programs look abit in dependant like there not DMX but that could be just a bad video. Any good links:D

Think you've probably seen a bad video. The shakey movement could have been the gobo shake feature. When focused properly the gobo's are very clear and they run together master slave very well with soem good inbuilt programs.

Here is the prolight video, which does not really show the gobo's.

http://prolight.co.uk/images/media/11/1112/1112107/PUMA02/PUMA02-m0.wmv

Here is the video from phase one, which is a long video and shows all of the features.

http://videos.djanddiscostuff.com/demos/PUMA1.wmv

Sam

UltraBeat Entertainment
29-02-2008, 07:45 AM
Thanks for the links. just seen the videos. The light does look better in these videos but that gobo shake feature would do my head in. I thought the camera man was having a fit or something.

This unit does look interesting, much more than the datamoon. When i go up to my local showroom my ask for a demo.