Baps

[Vectis]

On my travels around our fair land, I've always been impressed at the number of different names given to the simple white bread roll.

As a Warrington lad by birth I always thought they were called Barm Cakes. But as I ventured out into the world I realised that most locales had different names for them. Probably the most fascinating was when I went to a bakers shop in Wakefield and ordered a ham & tomato, erm, barm cake to be met with laughter from behind the counter. The conversation went thus:

'Barm Cake luv? we don't sell 'em'
'Yeah - you know, a bread roll' (pointing)
'Oh you mean a teacake?'
'No, just a plain bread roll'
'That's a teacake'
'No, teacakes have currants in them - I just want a plain one'
'No luv, you're talking about a currant teacake. Ordinary teacakes don't have currants in'
'OK - I'll have a ham and tomato plain teacake please'
'Marge or dripping?' :eek:

SO.... long story short, what do you call them?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I wondered what this thread was going to be about...!!!

[Shaun]

I just call them "Rolls". I thought everyone did. :)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I just call them "Rolls". I thought everyone did. :)

Don't you watch Coronation St Shaun?

[Shaun]

Don't you watch Coronation St Shaun?

Only twice on Monday's, once on Wednesday's and twice on Fridays.

(Shouldn't my answer be in the guilty pleasures thread?) :eek: :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Only twice on Monday's, once on Wednesday's and twice on Fridays.

(Shouldn't my answer be in the guilty pleasures thread?) :eek: :D

You should know what a barm cake is then.

[Vectis]

I just call them "Rolls". I thought everyone did. :)

Which reminds me of another odd tale... I was once sent to the Isle of Arran to do some work. Straight off the ferry I was starving so went into a fish and chip shop. Ordered a chip roll, so brown paper bag, sliced roll, and just before the chips went in the woman holds up a water sprayer (the sort you water plants with) and asked if I want my roll watered?

WTF? Can someone explain??

[Shaun]

Which reminds me of another odd tale... I was once sent to the Isle of Arran to do some work. Straight off the ferry I was starving so went into a fish and chip shop. Ordered a chip roll, so brown paper bag, sliced roll, and just before the chips went in the woman holds up a water sprayer (the sort you water plants with) and asked if I want my roll watered?

WTF? Can someone explain??


:lol: Now that's a new one....was she on medication? :d


You should know what a barm cake is then.

Never heard of it. :confused: :o

[Tom]

hahaha.

i say baps and i get a slap (from the other half) so i have to say roll. lol

And then i get toast instead???

[Excalibur]

Which reminds me of another odd tale... I was once sent to the Isle of Arran to do some work. Straight off the ferry I was starving so went into a fish and chip shop. Ordered a chip roll, so brown paper bag, sliced roll, and just before the chips went in the woman holds up a water sprayer (the sort you water plants with) and asked if I want my roll watered?

WTF? Can someone explain??

How do you order your fish and chips? Round here it's " One of each " , but north of the boeder it's " A Fish Supper " :confused:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Which reminds me of another odd tale... I was once sent to the Isle of Arran to do some work. Straight off the ferry I was starving so went into a fish and chip shop. Ordered a chip roll, so brown paper bag, sliced roll, and just before the chips went in the woman holds up a water sprayer (the sort you water plants with) and asked if I want my roll watered?

WTF? Can someone explain??

Something to do with moistening the bread maybe?

Unless it had vinegar in?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

How do you order your fish and chips? Round here it's " One of each " , but north of the boeder it's " A Fish Supper " :confused:

Round here, it's "Fish and chips please waiter" :D

[Shaun]

How do you order your fish and chips? Round here it's " One of each " , but north of the boeder it's " A Fish Supper " :confused:

It's a fish supper in my neck of the woods. It's on the price list right under deep fried mars bar. :D

[Vectis]

How do you order your fish and chips? Round here it's " One of each " , but north of the boeder it's " A Fish Supper " :confused:

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the appendage "supper" meant one-and-a-half or two portions of the prependage. Therefore a fish supper = chips + more than one piece of fish. Ditto sausage supper, pie supper...?

[Shaun]

Anything with chips around our way is classed as a 'Supper'

[Vectis]

Hmm... must be a "left of Glasgow" thing; I worked on the west coast a lot for a number of years (lived near Kilmarnock for a while too) and pretty sure a supper involves multiples of whatever.

Anyway, back on topic, the various terms I've come across for the humble bap so far are: barm cake, bap, roll, muffin, muff, teacake, stottie (although this usually refers to HUGE barmcakes the size of bin lids), bun...

Any others?

[rob1963]

I wondered what this thread was going to be about...!!!

Same here...and I'm very disappointed!

:D :D :D

[Jiggles]

Round here is:

Rolls = Rolls :D

Fish n chips = Fish Supper

[Corabar Steve]

Looks like we're having fish supper tonight then:sj: (before the pub)

[Tom]

I dont know if its me but the term "fish supper" sounds really old.

[Corabar Steve]

Is it still a fish supper if you eat it in the street out of the paper? Or does it have to be eaten at home to qualify?

[Jiggles]

Come on Tom get with it :D:D

You can eat a fish supper anywhere and it qualifies

[Tom]

Is it still a fish supper if you eat it in the street out of the paper? Or does it have to be eaten at home to qualify?


Come on Tom get with it :D:D

You can eat a fish supper anywhere and it qualifies

No, i didnt mean that. its just the word "supper". you dont hear it much these, well i dont.

[kd_entertainments]

Bap (Pronounced baep in NI) is what we call a bread roll!

Fish supper - 2 pieces of fish and a bag of chips
Sausage supper - 2 sausages and a bag of chips
Chicken supper - chicken breast and a bag of chips

What do you call your evening meal, Dinner or Tea?

[Tom]

dinner. always have and always will.

might be because of where we all live. down here in medway most of the people dalk like dat, bruv. I ment to type that so please dont deleate.

Im sure other places have there onw say of saying words ect ect.

[Jiggles]

What do you call your evening meal, Dinner or Tea?


Both! :D

[axeman]

bread bun

fish lot with batter

[Daryll]

The idea of spraying a bread roll with water is to make the crust more crispy, however this is done before or during baking, never heard of spraying after :confused:

Daryll

[BeerFunk]

Also just 'rolls'. Ordering a sausage on a roll can be a bit of a hassle sometimes! :)

Aren't the cultural difference across the UK quite amazing?! It's fascinating to learn of the primal habits of the settlements south of the border :p


Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the appendage "supper" meant one-and-a-half or two portions of the prependage. Therefore a fish supper = chips + more than one piece of fish. Ditto sausage supper, pie supper...?Never heard of that, in chippy terms a supper is 'item with chips' rather than a 'single item'. If you want two pieces of fish, you have to ask for a large supper in my local chippy :(


I dont know if its me but the term "fish supper" sounds really old.
As in old fashioned? It's a traditional phrase, although I couldn't tell you when it was first used. Much the same as 'cuppa' etc

[pulsemobiledisco]

I used to live in Tamworth (Midlands) and we call them a batch. Then moved up to Blackpool and nobody knew what I was asking for and I did not know what the hell a barm cake was. How can bread be called cake, duh!

[PropellerHeadCase]

As in old fashioned? [Supper,] It's a traditional phrase, although I couldn't tell you when it was first used. Much the same as 'cuppa' etc

I'm pretty sure the Last Supper wasn't the first supper, but they did have a nice cuppa, well chalice, during ;)

Well, no, Cuppa is a contraction of Cup o' Tea -> Cuppa Tea -> Cuppa.


In NZ a Bap is a particular type of bread roll - small, white, round, doughey with a dusting of flour on the top.


Of course then there's the whole fries/chips/crisps thing. We call 'em fries or chips pretty much interchangeably but we only call 'em chips, never crisps ;)

[Penfold42]

It's a fish supper in my neck of the woods. It's on the price list right under deep fried mars bar. :D

Never had one...always wanted to try one....what they like....???
*Is Shaun gonna let his little secret out...:D *

Fish supper round here...with green snot on it.....(mushy peas...:sick:)
*Run for cover lads....*
Bread rolls.....

But we have a guy who comes from Wigan....potatoes in batter...'floaties' :confused:

[rob1963]

Why is it that when you're at school, the meal you have in the middle of the day is dinner (dinner time, dinner money etc)...

...but when you're older, the meal you have in the middle of the day becomes lunch, and your EVENING meal is now dinner?

:shrug:

[Penfold42]

Why is it that when you're at school, the meal you have in the middle of the day is dinner (dinner time, dinner money etc)...

...but when you're older, the meal you have in the middle of the day becomes lunch, and your EVENING meal is now dinner?

:shrug:

Why???

You still at school then.........:D

[PropellerHeadCase]

Why is it that when you're at school, the meal you have in the middle of the day is dinner (dinner time, dinner money etc)...

...but when you're older, the meal you have in the middle of the day becomes lunch, and your EVENING meal is now dinner?

Wedding breakfast anyone?

[rob1963]

Wedding breakfast anyone?

Don't confuse me even MORE!!!

So the day you get married is the only day you have breakfast twice...at different times of the day...weird!

[PropellerHeadCase]

Might be something to do with the Morning Suit that is still sometimes worn ;)

[BeerFunk]

I was watching TV the other afternoon, a rarity for me, and I could have sworn the new presenter said 'this brunchtime'. I'm not too keen on that - it's way too casual for my liking.

[PropellerHeadCase]

It also doesn't mean anything, it's about as useful as "ASAP".

[Excalibur]

Might be something to do with the Morning Suit that is still sometimes worn ;)

Good job I didn't get married on my Birthday then, isn't it? ;) :eek: :D :D :D

[Dragonfly]

baps or cobs here although if you said to the nice lady in the bakery in nottingham could i please have a look at your baps you may well find yourself arrested :D :D :D

along the same lines i used to have a friend from Blackburn and a friendly greetin there is apparently "alright c ock?" as in reference to a male bird i suppose???

well here in Derby and Nottingham it's "alright mi duck"

so long story short we were in a drinking establishment one saturday lunchtime in Nottingham and presenting my mate with his pint the buxom beer wench said "there you go mi duck" and the reply was "Cheers c ock" from my friend

10 minutes or so went by before a smartly dressed manager appeared and questioned "excuse me , why did you just call my staff c ock?"

as this has a totally different meaning in the midlands.

a short conversation about local dialect then followed :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Vectis]

Fascinating... what a mine of useless information!

So, that's COB and BATCH to add to the list.

A supper includes more of the good stuff the further west you get, culminating in double once you get to NI.

And the practice of watering bread post-baking is still a mystery!

[wensleydale]

bread cakes in sheffield when i lived there.
they call all the blokes "love" so its a bit weird really.

[Corabar Steve]

Im sure other places have there onw say of saying words ect ect.Like the spelling of etc in Kent? :sj:


How can bread be called cake, duh!
Indeed, although they both go hard when stale.

bread bunBuns are usually sweet


In NZ a Bap is a particular type of bread roll - small, white, round, doughey with a dusting of flour on the top.
So it is in the UK, at least if you buy them in one of the main supermarkets (amongst all the other bread rolls)

Might be something to do with the Morning Suit that is still sometimes worn ;)I thought it was a corruption of mourning suit, mourning the passing of your freedom when you get married :sj:


So, that's COB and BATCH to add to the list.Cob, again is a type of roll. Batch usually refers to a loaf.

[Penfold42]

44 post's on what you call a piece of bread....:eek:

Must get out more!!:D :D

[Dragonfly]

44 post's on what you call a piece of bread....:eek:

Must get out more!!:D :D

A bread roll in Lincolnshire is know as "ammunition" as I remember :D :D

[Penfold42]

A bread roll in Lincolnshire is know as "ammunition" as I remember :D :D

...:D :D :D ...and a bread roll with cheese is a 'Cheeseburger'.....:D

[PropellerHeadCase]

Like the spelling of etc in Kent? :sj:

Ahh, thanks for that, Steve, I just thought he had a fur-ball :D



Indeed, although they both go hard when stale.
Buns are usually sweet

Oh, the innuendo!



So it is in the UK, at least if you buy them in one of the main supermarkets (amongst all the other bread rolls)

What's this? Commonality? The horror! :eek:



I thought it was a corruption of mourning suit, mourning the passing of your freedom when you get married :sj:

A pedant AND a cynic, eh? Good on you ;)



Cob, again is a type of roll. Batch usually refers to a loaf.

Yep, to me cob connotes a fairly specific type of roll that's tending towards vaguely loaf-y.



44 post's on what you call a piece of bread....:eek:

Well, we all DJ for a crust, so it seems appropriate ;)

[wayne_uk]

Getting back to the "fish and chips" debate,
there's a guy down our chippie says his name is elvis,
i'll ask him






ok i'll get my coat

[PropellerHeadCase]

Is his surname Crespo?

[Excalibur]

Is his surname Crespo?

You've got to come down to our level sometimes, mate! :confused: :confused:

[PropellerHeadCase]

Elvis Crespo is a Merengue performer in the US.

[Dragonfly]

Elvis Crespo is a Merengue performer in the US.


lemon??? :D :D :D

[PropellerHeadCase]

Key-Lime, more like :p