Black tie

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I have always considered black tie to be black silk bow tie, dinner suit, white shirt, black patent shoes and either black waistcoat or black cummerbund.

I can't stand colourful waistcoats, coloured matching bow ties and cummerbunds and white shirts with pretty patterns all over the sleeves.

Do you wear black tie and if so, what does yours consist of?

[Penfold42]

I have always considered black tie to be black silk bow tie, dinner suit, white shirt, black patent shoes and either black waistcoat or black cummerbund.

I can't stand colourful waistcoats, coloured matching bow ties and cummerbunds and white shirts with pretty patterns all over the sleeves.

Do you wear black tie and if so, what does yours consist of?

:agree:...with all that and pretty much the same for me.
White shirt has small black studs for buttons.
No waistcoat but black cummerbund.

[wensleydale]

only when requested.
which is very very rare.
dinner suit, dress shirt, bow tie and cummerbund.

funny bow ties are a big no no in my mind, but in general i am not keen on wearing black tie- it makes you look like a waiter and i rather wear something i am comfortable in.

[Tom]

I would be intrested what a lady Dj would wear??? not in that kind of way.

Just us boys+men wear smart suit ect but not sure what a woman would wear clothes wise???

[robbiedj]

Much the same, but no waistcoat. Strictly black and white for formal events and a wing collar.

But it must be a proper bow-tie, not ready tied. I hate to see bits of elastic or buttons/studs showing. :omg:

[robbiedj]

I would be intrested what a lady Dj would wear??? not in that kind of way.

Just us boys+men wear smart suit ect but not sure what a woman would wear clothes wise???

Carol has a ladies tux which she wears with a formal white top or a couple of black evening dresses, depends on the function.

[Tom]

Just did a google on the ladies tux.

Ahh. Cool. Intresting.

Looks a bit like a mans suit but with a long skirt.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

only funny bow ties are a big no no in my mind,

Funnily enough, that is where the thread came from. Someone on another forum was talking about the flashing spinning ones and I was saying how naff they are.

[wensleydale]

Funnily enough, that is where the thread came from. Someone on another forum was talking about the flashing spinning ones and I was saying how naff they are.

a bit smashie and nicey for my liking.

[PropellerHeadCase]

I must admit I have never been asked to do full formal black tie, heaps of white tie stuff (though ironically I generally wear a black tie to these). I do have a major aversion to bow ties, though they do work with a proper tux or morning suit, elsewise I can't stand them.

[djsteve10]

i wear a black tux with a white shirt and a black bow tie... also i have been looking at getting a black dress shirt with a white bow tie. Cant stand them colourful waistcoasts... reminds me of John virgo off Big Break or something like that.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Cheap dinner suit from M&S (http://www.marksandspencer.com/gp/product/B000WMVDXO/sr=1-1/qid=1204576484/ref=sr_1_1/026-3182471-8302049?ie=UTF8&node=43490030&m=A2BO0OYVBKIQJM&keywords=&mnSBrand=core&size=9&rh=&page=).

[kilmeedyman]

I have colourful waistcoats but rarely, if ever, wear them.

Have white and black tuxedos. Personally, I prefer the white one.

Wear black or deep red (wine?) or deep blue bow ties (ready tied) and cummerbund. Personally I prefer the deep red.

I do have braces (red or black) and will sometimes wear them.

It does to some extent depend on what the client wants and the type of occasion.

[rob1963]

I have always considered black tie to be black silk bow tie, dinner suit, white shirt, black patent shoes and either black waistcoat or black cummerbund.

I can't stand colourful waistcoats, coloured matching bow ties and cummerbunds and white shirts with pretty patterns all over the sleeves.

Do you wear black tie and if so, what does yours consist of?

I agree with your definition of black tie, but I've never gone the whole hogg, as it's never really been necessary.

Most of my clients are happy for me to wear a suit with a shirt & normal tie, although sometimes if it's a bit posher I replace the tie with a black bowtie...but I hasten to add it's not a "proper" one, but pre-tied, and attached with a hook.

Works fine for me, though!

[Corabar Steve]

I occasionally do the white shirt / black tie combo (with or without waistcoat), more often than not it's a burgundy tie with cummerbund & sometimes the shirt is black.

[JAMdisco]

I have a white wing collar shirt, black suit, black bow tie (pre-tied with hook) and black waistcoat. I'm not really keen on bow ties but if it's what the client wants then I will wear it. It has been known to come off towards the end of the night though - especially if it's a hot venue.

[Vectis]

I agree with your definition of black tie, but I've never gone the whole hogg, as it's never really been necessary.

Most of my clients are happy for me to wear a suit with a shirt & normal tie, although sometimes if it's a bit posher I replace the tie with a black bowtie...but I hasten to add it's not a "proper" one, but pre-tied, and attached with a hook.

Works fine for me, though!

:agree:

Exactly the same as me. Now I'm worried :p

[Candybeatdiscos]

would never wear a bow tie, very seldom wear a tie, i much prefer black dress trousers and a black shirt with top button undone, think we would get shot wearing a bow tie up here, i have never seen another scottish DJ round these parts wearing a bow tie, i guess the more up north you go we get a bit more relaxed

[Shaun]

I wear a nice suit, shirt and tie at formal events. I've never seen or heard of a DJ wearing a tux and bow tie in my region.

[rob1963]

I agree with your definition of black tie, but I've never gone the whole hogg, as it's never really been necessary.

Most of my clients are happy for me to wear a suit with a shirt & normal tie, although sometimes if it's a bit posher I replace the tie with a black bowtie...but I hasten to add it's not a "proper" one, but pre-tied, and attached with a hook.

Works fine for me, though!


:agree:

Exactly the same as me. Now I'm worried :p

My posts seem to be getting more agreement from MDD members recently.

It's nice to know more of you are gradually coming round to my way of thinking...although not unexpected!

:D :D :D

[Corabar Steve]

You poor deluded soul :sj:

[Vectis]

Maybe choice of dress is linked to girth :o

I did try the full-on tux look once for a mate's wedding, caught a glimpse in the mirror and thought 'Pavarotti', so maybe subconsciously that's why I don't! :eek:

Eh, Rob? :D :D :D

[rob1963]

You poor deluded soul :sj:

:Laugh:


Maybe choice of dress is linked to girth :o

I did try the full-on tux look once for a mate's wedding, caught a glimpse in the mirror and thought 'Pavarotti', so maybe subconsciously that's why I don't! :eek:

Eh, Rob? :D :D :D

I have no idea what you're talking about vectis!

:whistle: :sofa:

[Ace DJ]

I have both a white dinner jacket and black dinner suit with an assortment of matching bow tie and pocket hankies. If you want to handle these sort of functions then you have to have the right dress code.
Ace

[rob1963]

If you want to handle these sort of functions then you have to have the right dress code.

I'm not sure I agree with that.

I've done some very posh black tie events, but have never been required to wear the full regaila myself.

A suit & tie (or bowtie) has always been quite sufficient.

:)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Well that is the right dress code then!

[rob1963]

Well that is the right dress code then!

Indeed it is!

:D

[wensleydale]

interesting how people see this- i have often been at events with work and the dj has worn black tie, although no-one expects him to- almost trying a bit too hard.

I have only ever been asked to wear it once as a DJ.

[theoloyla]

I do not wear a black dinner jacket. I have a white tux for the summer months and during the winter I wear a maroon velvet one. I generally wear a bow tie and waistcoat. The agency I work for quite a lot specify that their dj's wear bow ties. I think it sets us apart from the nerks who go out and "do discos". If I know it is not going to be a formal do then I will wear something less formal but it will definately be smart/striking - after all I am an artiste not a wine waiter. I am supposed to have a personality. I am a star - which is why I dont wear a plain black dj.

[wensleydale]

I do not wear a black dinner jacket. I have a white tux for the summer months and during the winter I wear a maroon velvet one. I generally wear a bow tie and waistcoat. The agency I work for quite a lot specify that their dj's wear bow ties. I think it sets us apart from the nerks who go out and "do discos". If I know it is not going to be a formal do then I will wear something less formal but it will definately be smart/striking - after all I am an artiste not a wine waiter. I am supposed to have a personality. I am a star - which is why I dont wear a plain black dj.

I think the above is fair enough Theo but I think its a fine line from what you are talking about and "personality" djs who need to rely on a comedy shirt to get noticed.

but as with everything in the rich tapestry of life, each to their own.

[Ace DJ]

interesting how people see this- i have often been at events with work and the dj has worn black tie, although no-one expects him to- almost trying a bit too hard.

I have only ever been asked to wear it once as a DJ.

If you have only been asked once maybe you are not the DJ people would
associate with black tie events. I am often asked for Black tie at the more
of the higher end weddings and corporate events for the Big blue chip companies where they demand more of a touch of class from their entertainment. It so happens we are doing two this Saturday.
Ace

[Sam]

If you have only been asked once maybe you are not the DJ people would
associate with black tie events. I am often asked for Black tie at the more
of the higher end weddings and corporate events for the Big blue chip companies where they demand more of a touch of class from their entertainment. It so happens we are doing two this Saturday.
Ace

I think that post can be be simplified into "mine is bigger than yours...."



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Personally I do a few gigs where they ask us to dress up smart so I wear a tux, white shirt and a black bow tie..... but this is only a few thankfully...

If they ask for something a bit more formal than the norm I wear my nice dark 'general' suit, if thats the best word for it, with a open necked shirt.

And the normal clobber where they don't have any wants in the DJ clothing... which - especially down here - I don't find they want you to dress up smart.. I wear smart black trousers with a black jumper... and the t-shirt I usually wear is the equaloiser 'bars' one...... and yes you may say that's tacky... but it goes down a storm with the punters.. they love it... and every disco i wear it I can be certain there will be people looking and pointing at it and coming up asking where you can get them :-) (and also get the odd few who "want to try it on and promice to bring it back" - lol!)
And it is much more comfortable to work it.

There again I am also someone who doesn't love his own voice and will not be on the mic all the time. That is my style and it works for me... and my clients too. I am there to provide them with good entertainment for the evening. And that is what I do.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I think that post can be be simplified into "mine is bigger than yours...."





I don't think so. Maybe it was the way the post came over, but I'm in agreement - we also get a lot of higher end gigs because we look the part.

At the places that we are recommended, other DJs are measured against us in a lot of ways, with dress code being one of them.

People notice.

I have taken bookings where people have asked if we can wear black tie as they saw us elsewhere and thought it looked excellent.

However, I'm not saying it's for everyone. It's the image and the clientelle that I go for and get, so therefore we wear it and wear it a lot.


I have always promoted the company with this image and have always had a logo to back this up.

[Sam]

Fair points...
I suppose it depends how often you want to be out DJing... if you are full time then there is obviously a need to keep the bookings coming in - and so if dress code does it then fair play...

[wensleydale]

If you have only been asked once maybe you are not the DJ people would
associate with black tie events. I am often asked for Black tie at the more
of the higher end weddings and corporate events for the Big blue chip companies where they demand more of a touch of class from their entertainment. It so happens we are doing two this Saturday.
Ace

I think you are probably right- not many people looking at the Wensleydale website would expect us to wear black tie.

I am obviously incabable of adding "a touch of class to such events".

However I suspect true class is a little more than a suit, which, as pointed out by Darren already can be bought for under £50. It all depends whether there is substance beyond the suit doesnt it?

Each to their own Ace as I said before - the needs of each client will vary, and I set up my company to fill what I saw as a gap in the market.
Not everyone, even Big Blue Chip companies, and higher end weddings want DJs in DJs.

[rob1963]

interesting how people see this- i have often been at events with work and the dj has worn black tie, although no-one expects him to - almost trying a bit too hard.

Indeed.


I have only ever been asked to wear it once as a DJ.

That's only once more than ME!

:D :D :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

But do you ask what they want Rob or just turn up how you think you should be dressed?

[rob1963]

But do you ask what they want Rob or just turn up how you think you should be dressed?

I usually use my common sense to wear what I think will be appropriate, but I'm sure they would let me know if they wanted me to wear something specific.

I think I'm doing the right thing, as I've never had any negative coments about my attire yet.

:)

[Sam]

I usually use my common sense to wear what I think will be appropriate, but I'm sure they would let me know if they wanted me to wear something specific.

I think I'm doing the right thing, as I've never had any negative coments about my attire yet.

:)



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[PropellerHeadCase]

I have taken bookings where people have asked if we can wear black tie as they saw us elsewhere and thought it looked excellent.

However, I'm not saying it's for everyone. It's the image and the clientelle that I go for and get, so therefore we wear it and wear it a lot.

And even before reading your post, Darren, that's something that I was going to say...

The more you are seen to dress in a certain way, especially if it's relatively unusual (in a good way), the more you will be expected to.

There's no doubt that if you are seen to wear a tux at one event it's pretty much expected at the next (if any of the same people are present) - the plus side being, if you are being booked for genuine black tie events you are being paid commensurately.

Choir (Darren) consider yourself preached unto ;)

[dmckaraoke]

Am i the only kilt wearing wedding dj..

[Penfold42]

I have always promoted the company with this image and have always had a logo to back this up.

After reflection and a quick talk........i will now offer the client another option.

Thanks.
:)

[rob1963]

Am i the only kilt wearing wedding dj..

You're probably not the only one in Scotland!

[BeerFunk]

Am i the only kilt wearing wedding dj..Really?? I'm not sure, maybe it's me, but I don't think it's quite appropriate to wear a kilt at someone else's function, without actually being a guest.


You're probably not the only one in Scotland!Probably not, but I've never seen one.

[dmckaraoke]

"Really?? I'm not sure, maybe it's me, but I don't think it's quite appropriate to wear a kilt at someone else's function, without actually being a guest. "



Well havin asked every one of my clients what would they like me to wear to there wedding(and in most cases im there all day)not one have my clients declined the offer of me wearin kilt,also giving then the choice of black tie..

Im am 100% Scottish an very proud of the fact that i am then allowed at there request to wear my kilt...

Iv seen many a wedding entertainer(yes we are entertainers) dressed in kilt so why would it be classed as unappropriate for me to wear such a thing?

[Corabar Steve]

Really?? I'm not sure, maybe it's me, but I don't think it's quite appropriate to wear a kilt at someone else's function, without actually being a guest. Why? It's just another form of formal dress, albeit a traditional Scots one.

[rob1963]

Why? It's just another form of formal dress, albeit a traditional Scots one.

Agreed.

If we can wear black tie when working, why shouldn't DJs in Scotland be able to wear a kilt?

:shrug:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

All this talk of black tie has made me order a new suit. I've never ordered a suit online before, but it's a good idea as you can mix and match sizes and refunds and exchanges are a breeze too.

I've been toying wth the idea of having a white bow tie and a black shirt - what do you reckon?

[dmckaraoke]

Agreed.

If we can wear black tie when working, why shouldn't DJs in Scotland be able to wear a kilt?

:shrug:


Here here...

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I've ordered in several types and colours of bow tie, normal tie and waistcoat just to have a bit of a mix and match with styles and colours to see if anything looks better for say a younger funkier type wedding.

[PropellerHeadCase]

Sounds good to me, Daz.

[Ace DJ]

I've ordered in several types and colours of bow tie, normal tie and waistcoat just to have a bit of a mix and match with styles and colours to see if anything looks better for say a younger funkier type wedding.

A dark red always looks good with Black
Ace

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm still not convinced that a bow tie should be any colour but black, but I'll give it a go.

[Corabar Steve]

Get a burgundy one, all the coolest guys do. :sj:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Get a burgundy one, all the coolest guys do. :sj:

You got black then? :p

[Corabar Steve]

Black on black can look good too

[BeerFunk]

Im am 100% Scottish an very proud of the fact that i am then allowed at there request to wear my kilt...

Iv seen many a wedding entertainer(yes we are entertainers) dressed in kilt so why would it be classed as unappropriate for me to wear such a thing?
Why? It's just another form of formal dress, albeit a traditional Scots one.
Agreed.

If we can wear black tie when working, why shouldn't DJs in Scotland be able to wear a kilt?

:shrug:
I think that wearing a kilt draws attention to yourself, and have made the observation that usually only the main guests at a wedding will wear a kilt. If you're a friend of a friend or the family, for example, and you're turning up after the meal - I just don't feel that wearing a kilt is the way to dress. That said, there's nothing wrong with it, and of course no-one would really mind I shouldn't think.

In terms of the DJ, well if you've asked beforehand and they're alright with it, then there's no problem. I certainly wouldn't turn up in a kilt without asking though!

I suppose it's a matter of opinion really, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be a bit annoyed if a relative stranger turned up at my function with a kilt and sporran on.

[rob1963]

I think that wearing a kilt draws attention to yourself

In England, maybe...but I wouldn't have thought so if you were in Scotland!

[soundtracker]

Thanks for the suggestion Daz - ordered mine - should be here by Monday! I normally try to colour co-ordinate with the chosen Wedding colours - brides seem to appreciate it.

[Tom]

Didnt think about that. Good idea.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Thanks for the suggestion Daz - ordered mine - should be here by Monday! I normally try to colour co-ordinate with the chosen Wedding colours - brides seem to appreciate it.

What have you ordered?
:confused:

[soundtracker]

What have you ordered?
:confused:

Sorry! Missed out the quote - an M&S cheapo Dress suit

[theoloyla]

I'm still not convinced that a bow tie should be any colour but black, but I'll give it a go.
In my book a bow tie should be any colour but black. As entertainers we need to be colourful.


I think that wearing a kilt draws attention to yourself, and have made the observation that usually only the main guests at a wedding will wear a kilt. If you're a friend of a friend or the family, for example, and you're turning up after the meal - I just don't feel that wearing a kilt is the way to dress. That said, there's nothing wrong with it, and of course no-one would really mind I shouldn't think.

In terms of the DJ, well if you've asked beforehand and they're alright with it, then there's no problem. I certainly wouldn't turn up in a kilt without asking though!

I suppose it's a matter of opinion really, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be a bit annoyed if a relative stranger turned up at my function with a kilt and sporran on.
As the entertainment I would have thought that you want to draw attention to yourself. I do. Dress at a wedding or formal occasion should be smart, respectable but outstanding for us dj's.

[Excalibur]

As the entertainment I would have thought that you want to draw attention to yourself. I do. Dress at a wedding or formal occasion should be smart, respectable but outstanding for us dj's.

Theo, while I applaud and respect you for that attitude, and can completely see where you're coming from, sometimes I feel that my physical presence ( and therefore appearance ) is not the most important factor. ( I daren't say
" I'll let the music do the talking" as I think that one upsets Darren! ;) :D
If I am however to be more FOH than hiding behind the gear, then I tend to follow your lead. I don't think I have ever worn a BLACK bow tie in thirty five odd years at this, so we may be singing off the same hymnsheet.

[Ace DJ]

As the entertainment I would have thought that you want to draw attention to yourself. I do. Dress at a wedding or formal occasion should be smart, respectable but outstanding for us dj's.

It has always been the saying in show business (Because that's what we are in) '' You don't dress as if you work in an office or as if you have just come in off the street''
That means you dress in a style that is special different from your audience and dress to impress.
Ace

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

In my book a bow tie should be any colour but black. As entertainers we need to be colourful.

I completely disagree. Colourful bow ties are cheesy IMO.

[Excalibur]

I completely disagree. Colourful bow ties are cheesy IMO.

Two schools of thought going on here I suspect, and the chances of any common ground look slim. ;)

[rob1963]

In my book a bow tie should be any colour but black. As entertainers we need to be colourful.


I completely disagree. Colourful bow ties are cheesy IMO.


Two schools of thought going on here I suspect, and the chances of any common ground look slim. ;)

I'm completely with Darren on this one.

I wouldn't dream of wearing a bowtie which was any colour other than black.

[Excalibur]

I'm completely with Darren on this one.

I wouldn't dream of wearing a bowtie which was any colour other than black.

I'm relieved to hear that Rob, now I KNOW Theo and I are right! :p :D :D

Darren, you agree with Rob, getting worried yet? :confused: :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm relieved to hear that Rob, now I KNOW Theo and I are right! :p :D :D

Darren, you agree with Rob, getting worried yet? :confused: :D

Actually Rob was agreeing with me, so that's OK. :p

I used to wear different colours with matching cummerbunds, but I just prefer black now. Classier looking I reckon.

[theoloyla]

Actually Rob was agreeing with me, so that's OK. :p

I used to wear different colours with matching cummerbunds, but I just prefer black now. Classier looking I reckon.
Just conservative, drab and boring if you ask me.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Just conservative, drab and boring if you ask me.

I'd rather look classy thanks.

If you follow any kind of etiquette with regard to wearing black tie, no-where will you find a guide suggesting wearing any other colour than black.

Read here. (http://www.blacktieguide.com/Basics/1_Attire.htm)

How many of you wear a self tie bow tie? Read this.

Self-Tie versus Pre-Tied

The choice of bow tie model separates the men from the boys - and the gentlemen from the waiters. A truly stylish dresser would no more consider wearing a pre-tied bow tie to a formal function than he would donning a clip-on four-in-hand tie for work.

The decision to avoid self-tie models is invariably based on ignorance rather than experience: most men have no idea that the process is virtually identical to tying a simple shoelace bow. A fear of imperfection may also be a contributing factor but the fact of the matter is that a slightly asymmetrical bow adds a unique flair to each man’s ensemble. Just as the natural imperfection of a real flower trumps the perfection of an artificial boutonniere, the human touch of a hand-tied bow will always best the mechanical precision of a pre-tied model.


On the same site it says "There is one very simple rule for personalizing bow ties: don’t.

Regardless of how commonly this sartorial gaffe appears at formal functions, it is still a faux pas. While it is true that matching ties and cummerbunds were recommended by even the most esteemed etiquette and fashion authorities in the 1960s through the early ‘80s, since that time there has been a return to classic standards and the solid black bow tie is once again the only correct option.

This is not simply a matter of changing fashions but, rather, a reflection of timeless style. Unlike the waistcoat, cummerbund or handkerchief, a contrasting bow tie is not framed by a dark color and therefore stands out as a glaring distraction. It has the effect of gift wrapping the neck and detracting from the face which is supposed to be the focal point of the suit."

[theoloyla]

As a guest I can see the sentiments in that but as an entertainer (not a guest) it doesnt apply.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

As a guest I can see the sentiments in that but as an entertainer (not a guest) it doesnt apply.

Of course it does, you are still wearing it, whether you are a guest or not.

[Excalibur]

As a guest I can see the sentiments in that but as an entertainer (not a guest) it doesnt apply.


Of course it does, you are still wearing it, whether you are a guest or not.

Darren, your post on etiquette, and style was accurate, informative and useful. However, I think Theo is approaching the subject from a different direction to you, in that as an Entertainer, a title which he holds in very high regard obviously, his sartorial perfection must take a back seat to the main aim of an outfit which is visually striking, different from the guests, and perhaps a little daring.

Both your viewpoints are valid, if not convergent. Now play nicely, or there's no supper! :eek: :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

We are playing nicely.

How is wearing a different colour bowtie daring? It also says you should only wear a white DJ in the summer too...

We are just having a difference of opinion. If you read that article again, it doesn't say "If you are an entertainer then it doesn't matter, you can wear a pink bowtie and a matching cummerbund"
:sj:

[PropellerHeadCase]

The entertainer sould wear a lime green zoot suit... problem solved :D

[Excalibur]

We are playing nicely.

How is wearing a different colour bowtie daring? It also says you should only wear a white DJ in the summer too...

We are just having a difference of opinion. If you read that article again, it doesn't say "If you are an entertainer then it doesn't matter, you can wear a pink bowtie and a matching cummerbund"
:sj:
I wonder if you maybe have a first edition Darren? That bit IS in the versions Theo and I possess. :D :D

My main and serious point is that you and Theo ( and me also) are never going to agree, so I cannot see any mileage in prolonging an argument which consists of reiterating the same point repeatedly. We are holding diametrically opposed viewpoints, which can both be valid simultaneously. As far as I am concerned, if you are an entertainer, pink bow ties, shirts, or even frocks are perfectly acceptable. :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Corabar Steve]

Gold Lamé

[Excalibur]

The entertainer sould wear a lime green zoot suit... problem solved :D


Gold Lamé

Darren and I are having an adult exchange of sensible views, and can you join in in the same vein? :confused: No of course not! :p

[Corabar Steve]

Been taking lessons from Rob

[Excalibur]

Been taking lessons from Rob

You can't do better than to learn from the master, young Glassshopper.;) :D :D

[robbiedj]

The whole point is the function in question. If it says black tie it means black tie.

I do wear different suits and outfits depending on the function but black tie is sacred in many circles and you can offend if you don't toe the line.

Obviously an informal wedding reception may not want a formal dj, but many do. So that's what they get.

[Corabar Steve]

One of these'll do the job

[Penfold42]

The whole point is the function in question. If it says black tie it means black tie.

I do wear different suits and outfits depending on the function but black tie is sacred in many circles and you can offend if you don't toe the line.


I agree (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHksDFHTQI) ......hit the nail on the head. :)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

My main and serious point is that you and Theo ( and me also) are never going to agree, so I cannot see any mileage in prolonging an argument which consists of reiterating the same point repeatedly.

I am not reiterating the same point repeatedly, I am putting different parts of the arguement at different times.

So with that in mind then, nothing would be discussed and the forum would be extremely boring.

Eg:

I think it's black, and you think it's white.

End of story.

Where is the fun or discussion in that? If you feel you have nothing more to offer to the discussion then don't add anymore, but saying that there's no point in discussing things further 'cos we disagree would make this and other forums rather pointless.

[Corabar Steve]

Now white bow ties are tacky & a no no.

[Excalibur]

I am not reiterating the same point repeatedly, I am putting different parts of the arguement at different times.

So with that in mind then, nothing would be discussed and the forum would be extremely boring.

Eg:

I think it's black, and you think it's white.

End of story.

Where is the fun or discussion in that? If you feel you have nothing more to offer to the discussion then don't add anymore, but saying that there's no point in discussing things further 'cos we disagree would make this and other forums rather pointless.

I am merely questioning whether either of us are advancing further cogent arguments for our viewpoints, or simply repeating what we have already said? I think we are doing the latter, and that in itself mirrors the dress code argument.:bang: :bang:
Thank you for suggesting that if I have nothing to say, then I should keep my mouth shut! Much appreciated.;) :D :D :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Now white bow ties are tacky & a no no.

White tie is a different dress code again.

Funnily enough, I have just bought one to see how it looks. :eek: :cool:

[rob1963]

Been taking lessons from Rob

:eek: :eek: :eek:


You can't do better than to learn from the master, young Glassshopper.;) :D :D

So true! ;)

[theoloyla]

Now white bow ties are tacky & a no no.
Yeah I used to wear one back in the 70's. I dont anymore. I wear a silver one with a black shirt for informal do's and a multicoloured one with burgundy dinner jacket in the winter and white tux in the summer for formal occasions.

[Corabar Steve]

A burgundy Dinner Jacket. Hmmmmm, in danger of looking like you work at Butlins or something there. (no offence)

[theoloyla]

Having never been to Butlins in my long life I wouldnt know!