Which Radio Mic

[pulsemobiledisco]

Looking to buy a radio mic but only have approx £150 to spend. I was thinking about a Shure PG24E/PG58 http://www.thomann.de/gb/shure_pg24epg58_t10_vocal.htm

Does anybody know what the difference is between the Shure PG24E/PG58 T10 Vocal and Shure PG24E/PG58 R10 Vocal?

Does anybody have any experience with this or what else would you recomend in my price range.

Thanks

Sam

[kilmeedyman]

I have the AKG WMS 40 Pro Vocal Flexx. Got it from Hard to Find Records.
Sounds absolutely superb. Range is brilliant. Perfect in my book.
£129 http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR197963

[Excalibur]

Looking to buy a radio mic but only have approx £150 to spend. I was thinking about a Shure PG24E/PG58 http://www.thomann.de/gb/shure_pg24epg58_t10_vocal.htm

Does anybody know what the difference is between the Shure PG24E/PG58 T10 Vocal and Shure PG24E/PG58 R10 Vocal?

Does anybody have any experience with this or what else would you recomend in my price range.

Thanks

Sam

Crazy K swears by this range.
http://www.bluearan.co.uk/menu/index.php?id=JTSUS8001DA&product=JTS_US_8001DA

Sorry no experience of that Shure.

[CRAZY K]

Crazy K swears by this range.
http://www.bluearan.co.uk/menu/index.php?id=JTSUS8001DA&product=JTS_US_8001DA

Sorry no experience of that Shure.

Yes I like my JTS--THERES A BIG RANGE AVAILABLE

Mine is a 8001D but it might not be available now--3 yrs old.

Its worth test driving a JTS.

I notice from the link site they say they replaced all their SM58s with JTS :D :D :D

CRAZY K

[Penfold42]

I have a Kam...but TBH...i don't like it. Only take out as back up.
It just don't sound right....if that makes sence.:)

[Excalibur]

Yes I like my JTS--THERES A BIG RANGE AVAILABLE

Mine is a 8001D but it might not be available now--3 yrs old.

Its worth test driving a JTS.

I notice from the link site they say they replaced all their SM58s with JTS :D :D :D

CRAZY K

Seems to be still available.
http://www.electromusic.co.uk/product.php?productid=2203&cat=745&page=1

[Twinspin]

Get the shure definetely. Bargain at less than £150 for any shure radio mic especially on UHF.

[theoloyla]

As I said in another recent thread Shure have a 24 month warranty and service that is very impressive.

[Excalibur]

Get the shure definetely. Bargain at less than £150 for any shure radio mic especially on UHF.

While it does indeed bear the name Shure, it's way less highly specced than any of the others shown. Probably a bit hungry on 9v batteries too.

[theoloyla]

While it does indeed bear the name Shure, it's way less highly specced than any of the others shown. Probably a bit hungry on 9v batteries too.
Indeed they do eat batteries at a prodigious rate.

[pulsemobiledisco]

Thanks for all the advice guys. My problem is I really don't understand the technical specs on mics. I don't want something to cheap that will sound naf and at the same time I don't have a massive budget. I will also probably want to use the mic for vocal work as I am considering starting up as a wedding singer / DJ. If the singing takes off then I would buy a more expensive mic and keep the cheaper one as spare, but don't want to spend that much money just yet.

Cheers

Sam

[Vectis]

Well happy KAM UHF user here... sure they're not full vocal quality but they're good and clear enough for DJ use. Uses 2 AA batteries that seem to last forever, and is quite happy with rechargeables. Great range and no noise/interference. Feedback can be an issue if you stand right in front of the HF :bang: but no other drawbacks I can think of.

Great value for money IMHO.

[Corabar Steve]

I have a Kam...but TBH...i don't like it. Only take out as back up.
It just don't sound right....if that makes sence.:)

No, but it makes sense :sj:

[Penfold42]

:o :D

[CRAZY K]

Thanks for all the advice guys. My problem is I really don't understand the technical specs on mics. I don't want something to cheap that will sound naf and at the same time I don't have a massive budget. I will also probably want to use the mic for vocal work as I am considering starting up as a wedding singer / DJ. If the singing takes off then I would buy a more expensive mic and keep the cheaper one as spare, but don't want to spend that much money just yet.

Cheers

Sam

I would strongly recommend you road test the mike on a gig.

For what you might save by buying direct on the Internet MIGHT be offset by the the fact it might not sound as you want--

I would use your local DJ shop and take it from there--

CRAZY K

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

While it does indeed bear the name Shure, it's way less highly specced than any of the others shown. Probably a bit hungry on 9v batteries too.


I use 2 x PG58s for karaoke and they are very similar to the SM58s and just lack a slight bit if clarity on the top end. You'll only notice that if you test then side by side as I did.

Indeed they do eat batteries at a prodigious rate.

Not if you take them out in between usage. If you leave them in, you get battery 'leakage' and they don't last long. I've had this conversation with many a user and it has always solved the problem. Use Duracell M3 or Duracell plus, remove them in between uses and they will last months.


Well happy KAM UHF user here... sure they're not full vocal quality but they're good and clear enough for DJ use. Uses 2 AA batteries that seem to last forever, and is quite happy with rechargeables. Great range and no noise/interference. Feedback can be an issue if you stand right in front of the HF :bang: but no other drawbacks I can think of.

Great value for money IMHO.

They are and I also had a pair of those for karaoke, but they aren't a patch on the PGs.

[pulsemobiledisco]

I would strongly recommend you road test the mike on a gig.

For what you might save by buying direct on the Internet MIGHT be offset by the the fact it might not sound as you want--

I would use your local DJ shop and take it from there--

CRAZY K

To be honest, I will be buying it from my local shop. I buy nearly all my equipment from them and they look after me very well. They lent me some speakers FOC for a couple of weeks when I had my little trailer door accident!

I tend to search around on the internet for a price and then use to negotiate with the shop, and they will usualy come close or match it.

I'm interested in the JTS range but my shop don't stock them so I'm edging towards the PG58 and will have to see if I can get a road test and have a little sing when the room is empty during setup!

[CRAZY K]

To be honest, I will be buying it from my local shop. I buy nearly all my equipment from them and they look after me very well. They lent me some speakers FOC for a couple of weeks when I had my little trailer door accident!

I tend to search around on the internet for a price and then use to negotiate with the shop, and they will usualy come close or match it.

I'm interested in the JTS range but my shop don't stock them so I'm edging towards the PG58 and will have to see if I can get a road test and have a little sing when the room is empty during setup!

Sounds like a good idea:D

CRAZY K

[Excalibur]

To be honest, I will be buying it from my local shop. I buy nearly all my equipment from them and they look after me very well. They lent me some speakers FOC for a couple of weeks when I had my little trailer door accident!

I tend to search around on the internet for a price and then use to negotiate with the shop, and they will usualy come close or match it.

I'm interested in the JTS range but my shop don't stock them so I'm edging towards the PG58 and will have to see if I can get a road test and have a little sing when the room is empty during setup!


The PG58 is the one which I didn't fancy myself, perhaps wrongly. I suspect the two different model numbers may be operating frequency bands. ( Still UHF, just one may be higher than the other, not sure about that, but think it sounds likely ) It can often be the case that a mic which suits one person, may not suit another, so try before you buy must be the best advice.

The Sennheiser Freeport is same price bracket, if your shop has it.
http://www.decks.co.uk/products/microphones/sennheiser/freeport

[Skins]

I have the AKG WMS 40 Pro Vocal Flexx. Got it from Hard to Find Records.
Sounds absolutely superb. Range is brilliant. Perfect in my book.
£129 http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR197963

This are amazing mic sets. I own two sets of the dual mic and the quality and performace are amazing and well worth the money.

You can pick up the dual sets for around £200.

Shaun

[Richard Veal]

Have Shure vocal artist VHF and Carlsboro UHF,
Dont buy the latter - its awful but does have 16 channels and a good range but gets an intermittent fault with the mute which is annoying.

Shure - oh dear - mine keeps dropping out like nobody business and at the recent DJ meet in Thetford their's did too. Lots there had same problem.
Spoke to Shure (get this)
I have too much metal in my rig - run a long cable to the end of the stage and try that - in fairness its now perfect but WHY?

[CRAZY K]

Have Shure vocal artist VHF and Carlsboro UHF,
Dont buy the latter - its awful but does have 16 channels and a good range but gets an intermittent fault with the mute which is annoying.

Shure - oh dear - mine keeps dropping out like nobody business and at the recent DJ meet in Thetford their's did too. Lots there had same problem.
Spoke to Shure (get this)
I have too much metal in my rig - run a long cable to the end of the stage and try that - in fairness its now perfect but WHY?

Dont bother--just buy a JTS:D :D :D

CRAZY K

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Dont bother--just buy a JTS:D :D :D

CRAZY K

Or a Shure UHF....

[Excalibur]

Or a Shure UHF....

This may just be my scepticism, but the aerials are internal on the Shure. While I agree this is one less thing to get broken, I wonder if the reception can be as good from hidden aerials as external? :confused: This is a major reason why I avoided the Shure. As we all say, if it were possible to run one side by side with mine, that would be informative, rather than me just going on my instinct.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

This may just be my scepticism, but the aerials are internal on the Shure. While I agree this is one less thing to get broken, I wonder if the reception can be as good from hidden aerials as external? :confused: This is a major reason why I avoided the Shure. As we all say, if it were possible to run one side by side with mine, that would be informative, rather than me just going on my instinct.

Shure are pretty much industry standard when it comes to mics, so I can't imagine that they afford any less a signal 'cos the aerials are internal.

VHF are generally rubbish compared to UHF anyway, no matter what make you are talking about.

I have 4 UHF Shure mics that I use for DJing, karaoke and P.A. hire and have never had a single drop out or strange noise from any of them.

[Excalibur]

Shure are pretty much industry standard when it comes to mics, so I can't imagine that they afford any less a signal 'cos the aerials are internal.

VHF are generally rubbish compared to UHF anyway, no matter what make you are talking about.

I have 4 UHF Shure mics that I use for DJing, karaoke and P.A. hire and have never had a single drop out or strange noise from any of them.

Not an unexpected comment Darren, I too would have been surprised if they had been deficient in this department, it's just that if I can't see an aerial I feel less confident. Misguided perhaps, but that's just me. Another candidate for a side by side test? ;)( Are all yours the internal aerial models, just out of interest? )

Totally agree re VHF vs UHF. I tested my new UHF at range last week, and was mightily impressed at the improvement over UHF.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

All internal yes. The only ones I had with the external are the VHF versions.

I'm not quite sure why you should feel less confident with a mic with an internal aerial? When was the last time you saw a mobile phone with an outside aerial?

[Excalibur]

All internal yes. The only ones I had with the external are the VHF versions.

I'm not quite sure why you should feel less confident with a mic with an internal aerial? When was the last time you saw a mobile phone with an outside aerial?

And has the reception quality of the phones with internal aerials stayed as good as it was in weaker signal areas? No! I rest my case! It seems to me that I got better reception with the older phones( and summers were warmer, beer was cheaper, etc etc :D :D :D )

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

And has the reception quality of the phones with internal aerials stayed as good as it was in weaker signal areas?

Er...yes. As technology improved.

[Excalibur]

Er...yes. As technology improved.

IMHO Absolutely not! We don't all live twenty feet from masts. like some folk!;)

[theoloyla]

UHF is definately better whatever brand you buy in my opinion

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

IMHO Absolutely not! We don't all live twenty feet from masts. like some folk!;)

So you got better coverage from a mobile phone when they were analogue rather than the digital network that is being used now?

20 years ago when I bought my first 'mobile' phone there were large chunks of the country were there was no coverage at all, so I'm not sure how your arguement stands up there?

[Excalibur]

So you got better coverage from a mobile phone when they were analogue rather than the digital network that is being used now?

20 years ago when I bought my first 'mobile' phone there were large chunks of the country were there was no coverage at all, so I'm not sure how your arguement stands up there?

I got my best coverage about two years ago. In my opinion, the new handsets are not as good as the old ones in areas of weak reception. Two phones ago ( Handset models) I was usually the only one who could get a signal, when we were working in more remote areas. Nowadays, I'm struggling, and I've been on the same network for years. :confused: :confused:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I got my best coverage about two years ago. In my opinion, the new handsets are not as good as the old ones in areas of weak reception. Two phones ago ( Handset models) I was usually the only one who could get a signal, when we were working in more remote areas. Nowadays, I'm struggling, and I've been on the same network for years. :confused: :confused:

I thought we were talking 20 years ago, not 2 years ago. That's why I couldn't understand what you were saying!

[Excalibur]

I thought we were talking 20 years ago, not 2 years ago. That's why I couldn't understand what you were saying!

No Darren, in my opinion, the modern handsets are not as good as a couple of models ago. I blame the fact that rather than being full of phone, they are now full of Camera, MP3 player, and Radio! :eek: I already have a mobile disco. I don't want one in my phone, but can I get one without! :mad: :bang: :bang:

[CRAZY K]

UHF is definately better whatever brand you buy in my opinion

Is going from VHF to UHF technically an upgrade in quality--I thought it was more to do with the frequency reception range being far more user friendly as outside the area of taxis and the police than an improvement in sound quality?

Every new generation of sound equipment tends to be better than the last anyway--otherwise why make it?

I am surprised there are problems with a Shure.

CRAZY K

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Is going from VHF to UHF technically an upgrade in quality--I thought it was more to do with the frequency reception range being far more user friendly as outside the area of taxis and the police than an improvement in sound quality?


With the VHF I used to get drop outs and strange noises sometimes, so yes the quality of the mic is better.

[CRAZY K]

With the VHF I used to get drop outs and strange noises sometimes, so yes the quality of the mic is better.

Ah I see--quality of operation--i.e. no drop outs or background noises.

Not necessarily sound quality.

That makes sense.:D

CRAZY K

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Ah I see--quality of operation--i.e. no drop outs or background noises.

Not necessarily sound quality.

That makes sense.:D

CRAZY K

Yup - I couldn't think of the right phrase Al!