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Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 02:30 PM
I have just been accused by my friend James Lake of this:

"Perhaps you can explain how you use this forum to gather information about other DJs venues they have residencies at and then go after the venues then like you have to me and several other DJs from the forum???"

I know this is complete rubbish and untrue and will be contacting my solicitors unless I get an apology very soon.

If you run a business and think I have been trying to steal your venue through collecting information on here, then please go ahead and post here.

I am an honest businessman who has never done anything like this to anyone on this forum or anywhere else.

Jiggles
06-04-2008, 02:32 PM
Darren i think hes just trying to get to you. You haven't been anything like what hes said.

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 02:36 PM
I do not like being accused of anything that I haven't done and thought perhaps everyone might want to see the kind of person the accuser is, trying to discredit an honest businessman.

Come on then James, let's have names of DJs that I have been trying to steal work from and their venues.

Penfold42
06-04-2008, 02:37 PM
The guy sounds like he has a bee in his bonnet.......for some reason.
Don't let it ruin your Sunday.......:)

djsteve10
06-04-2008, 02:45 PM
Looks like we have another Aplus Entertainments :rolleyes:
Just make sure you do everything by the book Darren and show him you mean business.

I know you have never done anything wrong and how honest you are, you do alot on the forum to help members out so the accusatio that has been supplied is complete utter rubbish if you ask me.

theoloyla
06-04-2008, 02:50 PM
Sounds silly to me. Lots of people know the venues and agencies I work at and could try to "steal" the work from me. In 42 years I have lost several important jobs to competitors but I dont cry foul. Most of the time others cant replace me because I am good at what I do.

theoloyla
06-04-2008, 02:52 PM
I have just been accused by my friend James Lake of this:

Doesnt sound much like a friend to me Darren!

Excalibur
06-04-2008, 02:57 PM
Cant we just stick to arguing about low budget PA's ? :confused: :D :D At least I know something about that.;) :D

mike8863
06-04-2008, 03:01 PM
Try not to let words get you down Darren. I'm sure its just a wind up. You are a genuine bloke, you've helped alot of guys and gals out on here, more so than you needed too, me included, and we're all grateful, and don't see you as the sort of bloke who would shaft us.
Keep your chin up mate.
Mike

CRAZY K
06-04-2008, 03:05 PM
Cant we just stick to arguing about low budget PA's ? :confused: :D :D At least I know something about that.;) :D

And prices of Discos in Yorkshire:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

CRAZY K
Never ever quoting in Yorkshire again:eek:

rob1963
06-04-2008, 03:09 PM
Darren,

It's clear what's happening here.

I believe you recently discovered that James Lake had stolen part of your website, and went on to point this out to him.

He clearly got the hump over this big time (a bit like that guy in the USA who stole your whole site), and is now trying to get back at you.

Most of the teenagers on this forum act in a more mature way than that.

Excalibur
06-04-2008, 03:10 PM
And prices of Discos in Yorkshire:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

CRAZY K
Never ever quoting in Yorkshire again:eek:

I'm considering working in Northants though, reckon I'd clear a tidy profit, even after Diesel!;) :p :D :D :D




Most of the teenagers on this forum act in a more mature way than that.

Quite right Rob. Leaves us oldies room to be infantile. :p :p :D :D

Jiggles
06-04-2008, 03:11 PM
Most of the teenagers on this forum act in a more mature way than that.

Dont count your chickens! :rolleyes:

rob1963
06-04-2008, 03:12 PM
Dont count your chickens! :rolleyes:

:Laugh:

robbiedj
06-04-2008, 03:16 PM
Dont count your chickens! :rolleyes:

OK, excluding Callum then. :D


Darren, the man is a fool. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/confused013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

Unless you ARE setting up a Scottish & N.E branch of the business. :devil:

Jiggles
06-04-2008, 03:20 PM
OK, excluding Callum then. :D


:zip: :ph34r: :wub:

DazzyD
06-04-2008, 03:45 PM
Darren. This is how I see it. I don't know anyone on the forum personally but I cannot believe that the vast majority of those who "live" here are anything but genuine - no-one more so than yourself. Even when I posted my frustrations over the time it was taking to sort out the new Digital DJ License for laptop based karaoke shows, you didn't take it personally and calmly explained the current situation. I've had nothing but help and good advice from the forum and I'm sure you're a man of good morals.

Having said that, here's something to think about. I know there's honour amongst DJs but I have a business startup advice sheet for DJs from Business Link. On finding work, it actually advises that if you're at a venue and the resident DJ isn't very good, let the manager know and tell him/her you can do better and you may get your break! Maybe DJ James Lake just isn't very good and someone has the same advice sheet as me!

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 03:56 PM
it actually advises that if you're at a venue and the resident DJ isn't very good, let the manager know and tell him/her you can do better and you may get your break!

I have always left my card at venues and normally say that I understand they may have a regular guy or company, but please keep it for reference for the future.

Sometimes I may follow it up with an email or letter if I have a favourable responce from the C&B staff, but I don't target individuals businesses and go after them, and I certainly don't get the information from this site.

Excalibur
06-04-2008, 03:57 PM
I have always left my card at venues and normally say that I understand they may have a regular guy or company, but please keep it for reference for the future.

Sometimes I may follow it up with an email or letter if I have a favourable responce from the C&B staff, but I don't target individuals businesses and go after them, and I certainly don't get the information from this site.

Much the same procedure as I suspect most of us adopt, and would view as acceptable/the norm. Certainly what I used to do. ;)

DazzyD
06-04-2008, 04:02 PM
I used to work in that way but (without starting yet another big debate on 'bread and butter' residency work) I got tired of the same people singing/requesting the same songs week in week out. So, I leave the residencies to my lads and I cherry-pick the weddings and family parties (I am a cheesy DJ, after all!). I'm a civil servant during the week so the money isn't as important to me as it is to my lads. I do it simply because I enjoy doing it!

CRAZY K
06-04-2008, 04:08 PM
I'm considering working in Northants though, reckon I'd clear a tidy profit, even after Diesel!;) :p :D :D :D



Quite right Rob. Leaves us oldies room to be infantile. :p :p :D :D

Well actually my best paid bookings tend not to be in Northants at all--:eek:

People with serious money to spend with me are ( sadly ) mainly in the Home Counties, London, and a long way away in Hampshire--ive got 2 good ones there in the Summer.

Vectis V should be coining it in down there;) ;) ;)

CRAZY K

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 04:14 PM
Let's not get off topic on this one.

I await James' reply with interest.

wensleydale
06-04-2008, 04:23 PM
i think this has the potential to turn into a name calling exercise.

i would suggest taking the issues away from a forum like this- it wont do anyone any good in the long run.

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 04:30 PM
i think this has the potential to turn into a name calling exercise.

i would suggest taking the issues away from a forum like this- it wont do anyone any good in the long run.

I am not asking for people's opinions on whether this thread should be here - I have already made that decision.

I am not having people accusing me of things like that which are blantantly untrue.

I am still waiting names and venues from James.

DazzyD
06-04-2008, 04:47 PM
This is all about protecting your reputation, Darren, which is the same reason I have made my recent posts about UK PartyPop website. Whilst PartyPop didn't accuse me of anything untrue, they did use my business name without me knowing (and a whole load of other DJs info, too, by the look of it). To me, that's putting my reputation at risk cos I'd never even heard of them let alone had the chance to check them out first.

I got some satisfaction with my PartyPop issue. I hope you can resolve your situation as easily.

Excalibur
06-04-2008, 04:52 PM
i think this has the potential to turn into a name calling exercise.

i would suggest taking the issues away from a forum like this- it wont do anyone any good in the long run.

I agree with that totally


I am not asking for people's opinions on whether this thread should be here - I have already made that decision.

I am not having people accusing me of things like that which are blantantly untrue.

I am still waiting names and venues from James.

While it is of course your decision, particularly as you are one of the parties involved, I question whether airing such topics in public is a good idea. I assume that by making it so public, you are showing you have nothing to hide. All the best.;)

Silver
06-04-2008, 04:59 PM
I agree with that totally





I concur

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 05:12 PM
Look, if you have not been one of the alleged companies or DJs that I've 'stolen' work from, then please don't bother posting. I am not asking for people's opinions on whether this should be made public. I have made that decision.

I have a reputation. My website was copied. I asked nicely for the person to take it off and they made excuses and then started saying things that are not true for no reason other than being childish.

Penfold42
06-04-2008, 05:16 PM
i think this has the potential to turn into a name calling exercise.

i would suggest taking the issues away from a forum like this- it wont do anyone any good in the long run.


I agree with that totally


I concur

It's all very well saying it but it's not YOUR name or YOUR reputation at stake.....
If it were me.....i don't think i would be this calm........:)

Silver
06-04-2008, 05:47 PM
But surely we are discussing here something that potentially could go legal. With that in mind I would not want to jepordise any judicial decision if it was me involved.

I would say my piece behind closed doors, then when I won I would come out and reveal all.

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 05:51 PM
But surely we are discussing here something that potentially could go legal. With that in mind I would not want to jepordise any judicial decision if it was me involved.

I would say my piece behind closed doors, then when I won I would come out and reveal all.

I have nothing to hide.

Silver
06-04-2008, 06:04 PM
I have nothing to hide.

I appreciate that, I just don't feel issues that could end up in court should be aired on an open forum.

theoloyla
06-04-2008, 06:08 PM
I cant see this ending up in court - can you?

Solitaire Events Ltd
06-04-2008, 06:26 PM
I cant see this ending up in court - can you?

No. I would like James to come on and backup his accusation with names and venues. If he said it in the heat of the moment, then fair enough, send me an apology and I will delete the thread and forget it ever happened.

andyw
06-04-2008, 07:00 PM
i think solitaire has got the right to ask, if anyone suspects he as been doing anything like that or have any knowledge of accusations it is his reputation we are talking about after all. i think if someone accused me i would like to know .when/where .you can't defend yourself without the facts,or the bases on which the accusations are based or as suspected,are they just made up.
so i can say i've not only got accusations,i've not heard any about you until you posted this yourself.
not a lot of help to you really but good luck with getting it sorted
andy

Shaun
06-04-2008, 08:57 PM
Should this have been posted publicly?. I can understand why a lot of you reckon no. On the other hand, if someone had posted accusations against me I'd be inclined to call them out out on it too.

I don't know the full story, only what I've read in this topic. I do know that if someone was spreading accusations/lies about me that could tarnish my reputation and my business, I'd be seeking legal advice for slander.