Transport for mobile Djing??

[yourdj]

Hi I have done this before but still not sure :confused:

I have an expensive to keep car (useless for DJING) and although it is nice i need to prioritize :mad:

I need transport other than my girlfriends hatch back, but i would like the security of my garage (or would DJ guard cover a big van with locks and gear inside of it out of garage)? That would solve many problems especially with magnetic logos to not advertise the fact that there is lots of gear inside.

The main thing for me is to cut down loading time by having the gear in the vehicle all the time and obviously maximising security. I would also like a vehicle to drive from time to time for other uses (i work from home so dont get out much)!

Im also expanding quickly so i need to think of the future (ie: gigs as well as hire outs and supplying rigs for other djs in the same night (maybe))

In my eyes i have a few options:

- an estate or 4wd (I like the freelander and audi a4 avant) which i can park in the garage or outside of doors with my gear inside.

- a trailor (in garage) and a nice car/estate capable of pulling it (oustide garage blocking door). i may also use the car/estate for smaller gigs.

- a small van (ie: transit connect (in garage) and car outside (which will mean i will have to buy another car) 2 lots of insurance and tax.

- or a big van outside of garage - i live in a communal car park.

The size limits of my garage is 1.85cm high (not loaded), 1.7m wide (not including mirrors) and 4.6m long.

Any suggstions welcome as i am so confused. Ta

[wensleydale]

or cut down your rig so it's more compact- now more possible than a few years ago and possibly cheaper.

whats it like living in a car park?

[pagan_flame]

Just one vehicle? Nope - you've got to unload it every time you want it for something else, or risk it getting lifted from the supermarket car park / pub car park when you're away from it.

Van parked outside with gear in? No. (Ask Steve about that one)

So - get a trailer. Yer average chav on the nick can break into and drive off a van, no worries, but hitching up and towing away a trailer is harder to achieve, especially if you don't have a vehicle with towbar to hand!

If, however, you park the car with towbar outside the door for them to use... :eek: So get a towbar that detaches easily and quickly. (Unbolting the ball is a pain in the 8rse in the dark when it's raining!)

Communal garage area? Get motion sensor alarms, garage defender bars, wheel clamps on the trailer, and a rabid Dobermann with cable ties around his bits if you are leaving your gear in there.

[discomobiledj]

As far as I know DJ Guard won't allow you to have equipment stored in your car overnight.

For the sake of 30 - 40 minutes take it out.

[yourdj]

and a rabid Dobermann with cable ties around his bits if you are leaving your gear in there.

Good idea, I have a rotty/german shepherd & lab/german shepherd. Maybe they should go in the garage? (only joking they guard the house)

Like the trailor and wheel clamp in garage idea. How long does it take to hitch unhitch etc.

I was also thinking about a security alarm that phones my mobile


As far as I know DJ Guard won't allow you to have equipment stored in your car overnight.

For the sake of 30 - 40 minutes take it out.

I live a distance from the car park and it can get a bit damp in garage? If possible i want to cut down any equipment transfer?

Would one of those plastic sheds be an idea? surely a wheel clamped van in a garage with a car outside (blocking door) would be covered :confused:


or cut down your rig so it's more compact- now more possible than a few years ago and possibly cheaper.

whats it like living in a car park?

My rig is already pretty small and fits in a large hatchback.

I am starting to hire stuff out on the same night and provide bits for DJ's so i need more room (ie three compact sets of speakers/lights etc.)

[Royalblue]

Well we're still using horse and cart down here :)

[Kernow]

Got 'orse on you'n 'ave 'ee ???
No wonder tha's Royalty ;)

:D :D

[One Vision]

Well we're still using horse and cart down here :)


Got 'orse on you'n 'ave 'ee ???
No wonder tha's Royalty ;)

:D :D

:Laugh:

Get a trailer, you can also get locking devices that cover the hitch that the tow ball goes in

[Excalibur]

My advice would be trailer also, especially if you can get that in the garage. My gear lives in a trailer, and doesn't seem to suffer for it. You can get locks built into the trailer hitch, clamps to go over the hitch as well, and wheel clamps on top of that. The versatility of a trailer is a huge bonus.

[yourdj]

The idea of a trailer is really waring on me.

I can then pick and choose the type of car i want. i assume one with as much torq as poss (mitsubishi EVO 7 springs to mind)? or 4wd estate (audi quatro)?

What do you recon?

Has any one had any problems pulling with normal cars? As although this would be the sensible option it would not be as much fun !!

Anyone know any good sources for second hand trailer sales?

Online or in Hampshire/Dorset area?

I can spend the money saved on top notch security!

[Kernow]

:attn: IMPORTANT NOTE :attn:

( And Reality Check !!:D )

It is illegal to tow a trailer above 60 mph on Motorways/Dual Carriageways
or above 50 mph on all other roads.

Why do want a 150 mph car for that ??? :rolleyes:

Get something with low gearing and plenty of horses then you'll be fine ;)

[Richard Veal]

So - get a trailer. Yer average chav on the nick can break into and drive off a van, no worries, but hitching up and towing away a trailer is harder to achieve, especially if you don't have a vehicle with towbar to hand!



Not good advice, IMO

The insurance you mention only covers the gear in a trailer if the vehicle is stolen as well, where as in a van it only has to show signs of forced entry, I believe the policy wording is violent entry.

Take caravans for example how many times does the car and caravan get stolen in comparison to having the caravan un-hitched and towed away?

This was one of the reasons i bought a van, the in vehicle cover on musicguards policy is practically a waste of time unless you have a van. I confirmed this with them via telephone upon renewal.

Many trailers and caravans are stolen by vehicles without tow bars, All thats needed is a ratchet strap around the hitch connected to the towing eye of any vehicle.

If you go for trailer or van, again the policy does not cover the contents for storage puposes - the kit has to be un-loaded when not in use and stored in the named location on the policy document. If the replacement value exceeds £15000 that location also needs to be alarmed and (from memory) if its over £25000 it needs an alarm which is linked to a call centre.

Check your policy wording carefully before making any decision.

[Tom]

:attn: IMPORTANT NOTE :attn:

( And Reality Check !!:D )

It is illegal to tow a trailer above 60 mph on Motorways/Dual Carriageways
or above 50 mph on all other roads.

Why do want a 150 mph car for that ??? :rolleyes:

Get something with low gearing and plenty of horses then you'll be fine ;)

I was thinking the same thing. I guess its the young age. :D:D:D

I'm thinking about getting a trailer aswell. I have checked and I can fit one on my little 1.2i corsa.

But then again why would anybody want to drive over 60mph with a trailer??? Im more worried about cross winds. :eek: :(

[Richard Veal]

dont forget, be prepared to watch your fuel economy disappear
and your premium rocket when you tell the insurance company your using the vehicle for work in the entertainment industry

[Ajaysdisco]

I use a Clio and a trailer, why a Clio? I have to pay stupid insurance cost.

As previous people have said beef up the security with a trailer.
I would recommend a ball lock, if possible a ground anchor and a wheel clamp.
Remember nothing is indefectible it just slows the robber down and hopefully they will give up.
And I must stress for the sake of 30 minutes take the equipment out.
I know it’s a pain, as with every one else here I have keep lunging it from A to B but I rather have it safe inside.

On a different note (true story), some time back a plastic/wooden clubhouse got broken into. The clubhouse had beefed up door and window bars and locks.
How did they get in? They used a chain saw and went straight though the walls!!!
:D

[Corabar Steve]

YourDJ, please use the edit button when adding something / another comment immediately after you have posted one. I have lost count of the amount of your posts that I have merged in the last week or so.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

If you go for trailer or van, again the policy does not cover the contents for storage puposes - the kit has to be un-loaded when not in use and stored in the named location on the policy document.

Unless it's changed, I think you'll find that the gear is insured if the trailer is attached to an imoveable object in your storage space.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I use a Clio and a trailer, why a Clio? I have to pay stupid insurance cost.




If you declared that this was used for business, surely it's not going to matter whether it's a clio or something bigger?

[Excalibur]

:attn: IMPORTANT NOTE :attn:

( And Reality Check !!:D )

It is illegal to tow a trailer above 60 mph on Motorways/Dual Carriageways
or above 50 mph on all other roads.

Why do want a 150 mph car for that ??? :rolleyes:

Get something with low gearing and plenty of horses then you'll be fine ;)

And it's too :Censored: noisy to drive my van above 50!


Unless it's changed, I think you'll find that the gear is insured if the trailer is attached to an imoveable object in your storage space.


If it's in the garage, surely it's covered by insurance, whether it's in or out of the trailer? :confused: :confused:

[Corabar Steve]

Wouldn't that depend on the poilcy?

[Excalibur]

Wouldn't that depend on the poilcy?

If it's inside the house surely it's covered? :confused: I'm no insurance expert of course.

[TonyB]

If it's inside the house surely it's covered? :confused: I'm no insurance expert of course.

As Steve says, it depends on the policy. Some household policies exclude any property used for business purposes. If you do store any equipment used for business purposes at home, you should notify your insurers as it is a material fact.

As more people work from home these days, some household policies will include some cover for business property at home automatically but usually this is intended to cover a home office. It is best to check the wording and if in doubt check with the insurers/broker.

[Excalibur]

As Steve says, it depends on the policy. Some household policies exclude any property used for business purposes. If you do store any equipment used for business purposes at home, you should notify your insurers as it is a material fact.

As more people work from home these days, some household policies will include some cover for business property at home automatically but usually this is intended to cover a home office. It is best to check the wording and if in doubt check with the insurers/broker.

Agreed Tony, but I was meaning covered under the Business policy! I can understand an exclusion if it's outside, but when it's inside how much more can you reasonably do?

[TonyB]

Agreed Tony, but I was meaning covered under the Business policy! I can understand an exclusion if it's outside, but when it's inside how much more can you reasonably do?

Sorry, I think I'm replying to to another thread where I was reading about a household policy. Must pay more attention in the future!

Property covered in the garage would also depend on the policy wording. If the garage is a separate outbuilding, the policy may exclude or restrict cover. If the garage is integral to the house then cover may apply.

Storing property in a separate building that is not attached to the main premises is also a material fact as it is not as secure so should also be advised to the insurers.

Again it is best to check with insurers/brokers as if they know and accept it then there is no argument if there is a claim.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

If it's in the garage, surely it's covered by insurance, whether it's in or out of the trailer? :confused: :confused:

Strangely, no.

It might depend on the policy and I am talking about a policy that I had with Musicguard about 3 years ago.

If the gear was inside the trailer, the trailer had to be locked to an imoveable object. I suppose the way they were thinking was that if someone broke into the garage, it would take them a lot longer to steal gear individually rather than just hitch up the trailer.

[Richard Veal]

RE: Music guard.

Give them a call, Like i said earlier I called to enquire when it came to renewal and went through several scenario's with them -main reason being diffrent sections of the policy book seem to contradict one-another and i was left confused. It would seem they dont like trailers much. I remeber clearly them saying the insured equipment has to be unloaded into the insured premises. In my case the garage.

Although to be fair, it depends how honest you are. I doubt they could prove that you were just about to go to a gig when your trailer full of kit was heave-ho'd.

Anyway this wasn't meant to be an insurance thread so i appologise for pointing it that way.

IMO vans are safer, and if its too noisey above 50 its either got a roof rack or its a ford :clap:

[yourdj]

YourDJ, please use the edit button when adding something / another comment immediately after you have posted one. I have lost count of the amount of your posts that I have merged in the last week or so.

Sorry, still not good at this posting thing :)

How do people do multiple quotes from the same post?

[yourdj]

:attn: IMPORTANT NOTE :attn:

( And Reality Check !!:D )

It is illegal to tow a trailer above 60 mph on Motorways/Dual Carriageways
or above 50 mph on all other roads.

Why do want a 150 mph car for that ???

Get something with low gearing and plenty of horses then you'll be fine ;)

Thanks for the advice everyone :D

I have a reality check now

IM SORTED !!

I have sacrificed my two seater for an impreza sti for my girlfriend and i now have her standard 2 litre Impreza (non turbo) which is 4WD, very reliable, and perfect for pulling a trailer :)

I can also fit my current rig in the car without the trailer including small bass bins (just).

The van will come when im ready for it ;)

Any one know any good used trailer sites?

Hampshire best

[yourdj]

I just edited the smilies on post above, did that cause the same thing steve?

[DJS]

Im currently looking for something similar (performance/practicality/estate etc...) and as i run a jap performance website, im limited to what i can have, but stay true to my interest.

After a bit of searching ive come accross a Nissan Stagea RS Four, which is basically an import only Nissan Estate, with the Skyline GTS-T 2.5 turbo lump in it and 4 wheel drive!:D
......even better, a common conversion on them is to have the complete front end from an R34 Skyline fitted!
After checking out the vast space in the rear, im 100% certain my complete rig will fit in, and still give me plenty of room for extra's

>>>> http://www.jm-imports.co.uk/car%20pics/0.png

[Corabar Steve]

I just edited the smilies on post above, did that cause the same thing steve?
No, but the post in this quote did.

Sorry, still not good at this posting thing :)

How do people do multiple quotes from the same post?

The +" button. Click it on each post you want to quote from

[yourdj]

Im currently looking for something similar (performance/practicality/estate etc...) and as i run a jap performance website, im limited to what i can have, but stay true to my interest.

After a bit of searching ive come accross a Nissan Stagea RS Four, which is basically an import only Nissan Estate, with the Skyline GTS-T 2.5 turbo lump in it and 4 wheel drive!:D
......even better, a common conversion on them is to have the complete front end from an R34 Skyline fitted!
After checking out the vast space in the rear, im 100% certain my complete rig will fit in, and still give me plenty of room for extra's

>>>> http://www.jm-imports.co.uk/car%20pics/0.png

Nice! im thinking of trading in the standard impreza for a 2.4 boxer twin turbo legacy estate :) to keep up with my girlfriend on subaru events :D

http://users.autoexposure.co.uk/classicdd.cfm?Account=AETA25138&VehicleID=AETV20502798&Image=http://users.autoexposure.co.uk/is/autoedit/AETA25138/AETV20502798_1a.jpg

My dad has have one for years and has had little problems. Can also fit all my gear in it too!

Checked out that estate, there is one on southampton docks:

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/NISSAN+STAGEA/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146,N-4294958678-4294967243/search.action

Looks as spacious as a volvo?

If you live near Southampton i would consider a visit as there are dozens of import dealers here.


No, but the post in this quote did.


The +" button. Click it on each post you want to quote from

ok, Got the quote thing, let me know if you have any other problems as im not sure what im doing wrong :confused:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Rather than keep adding another post, click the edit button on your last post and add more information.

If you want to multi quote, click the "+ button on each post you wish to quote and then click post reply.

[yourdj]

Ok, thanks very much.