Acme Impossibled or Miracled?.......

[DJS]

Im looking at upgrading the centre part of my lighting rig (currently an Abstract Twister 4 250w) to something using LED, as i want a change, and im fed up with the bulbs in the Twister blowing nearly every gig.
So far ive narrowed it down to two lights, both from Acme,
The Impossibled,
The Miracled.

I have seen various video's of them in action on youtube, but still can't make my mind up on which one :rolleyes:

The Miracled seems the perfect size, but only gives a limited light display height wise (width spread is great), whereas the Impossibled looks huge, but gives a great beam spread in all directions.

Has anyone got any experience in using these, and if so which one would you recommend?

Cheers,
Scott.

[Tom]

I have the impossibled. If you are a light which can cover a large area then this is the light for you.

[Spirits High]

I've got the American DJ version the REVO 3 and think it's great.

For the £20 or so difference in price I think you'd regret not going the full hog and getting the Impossibled

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

ImpossiabLED. wins hands down.

The impossiabLED is made to be a centre effect but the MiracLED is not as its smaller with less LED's and a smaller effect.

[DJS]

Cheers for that.
If it wasn't for the fact the Impossibled would be hanging in front of where i would be standing, then i'd snap it up!
It is rather large isn't it?

How does the Impossibled look in a room, thats not that dark? (still got their 'off dancefloor' lights on)?

Scott.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

How does the Impossibled look in a room, thats not that dark? (still got their 'off dancefloor' lights on)?

Scott.

I posted a video of one in my front room when I first bought it - I'll have a looky for you.

There you go

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa260/daz2410/th_01112007013.jpg (http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa260/daz2410/?action=view&current=01112007013.flv)

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Cheers for that.
If it wasn't for the fact the Impossibled would be hanging in front of where i would be standing, then i'd snap it up!
It is rather large isn't it?
Scott.

The unit is alot larger than many other LED effects on the market but i feel the effect is well worth the extra size as this unit has been able to completely fill about 99% of the dance floors I've used it on. the coverage this unit offers is fantastic and can be run alone with no other lighting effects easily.

I have mine mounted in the centre of my deck stands lighting bar but i have the unit mounted on top of the bar which means its out of everybody's way:)

[Vectis]

I mostly use mine dead-centre too, but in a situation where this would obscure my view I have been known to mount it off to one side on its own tripod to get more height.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

I mostly use mine dead-centre too, but in a situation where this would obscure my view I have been known to mount it off to one side on its own tripod to get more height.

Or depending what you use to hang your lights on you could hang the unit above to give you more room and flexibility:cool:

[pagan_flame]

Here's a vid clip --> HERE (www.slingshot.uk.com/fd/photos/fdr_lights_feb08.wmv) <-- where I have mine (Chauvet Vue III) on the floor pointing up - which is good if you are on a stage / riser etc.

[Tony Scott]

Go for the Impossibled, I find it's very versitile, on the gantry as a whole dancefloor filler, on the floor fired up above the dancefloor or firing up behind the show as a backdrop, great on a light wall - really stunning!

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Go for the Impossibled, I find it's very versitile, on the gantry as a whole dancefloor filler, on the floor fired up above the dancefloor or firing up behind the show as a backdrop, great on a light wall - really stunning!

Good pictures there.

Just wondered are you manually controlling those effects. just i noticed ImpossibLED was the same colour as the other unit on the far side of the bottom picture. If so how are you controlling them?

[DJS]

Dont American Dj do a lighting effect called the REVO3, which is similar to the Impossibled, only it includes white LED's?

Scott.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Dont American Dj do a lighting effect called the REVO3, which is similar to the Impossibled, only it includes white LED's?

Scott.


Think if memory serves me right you've got the wrong end of the stick.
the REVO3 is the same as the ImpossiabLED but the only difference being it doesn't contain any white LED's where the ImpossiabLED does.

Anyone else confirm this?

[Tony Scott]

Good pictures there.

Just wondered are you manually controlling those effects. just i noticed ImpossibLED was the same colour as the other unit on the far side of the bottom picture. If so how are you controlling them?

Yeah, DMX controlled everything. I've programmed one sequence where the ImpossibLED and I-Moves are colour matched (the effect on the far side is one of the I-moves hitting one of the Mirrorballs).

Freestyler software and a DMX interface on dedicated laptop.

[mark@pegasus]

which venue was that Tony, looks familar apart from the white background. BTW did you manage to sort out any dates for me to have a look at the freestyler software?

[Tony Scott]

which venue was that Tony, looks familar apart from the white background. BTW did you manage to sort out any dates for me to have a look at the freestyler software?

Hi Mark, sorry forgot all about that! :o. I'll PM you with a few dates.

This venue was in Milton Keynes although it does look a bit like the Rembrant doesn't it? just without the dingy, dark decor :D

[DJS]

Think if memory serves me right you've got the wrong end of the stick.
the REVO3 is the same as the ImpossiabLED but the only difference being it doesn't contain any white LED's where the ImpossiabLED does.

Anyone else confirm this?

I can personally confirm this fact as ive just come off the American DJ website;)
It has red, green, blue and white LED's.

I have also just confirmed that the ImpossibLED has the same from this quoted on Prolight UK's website....
'LED's: R: 140 G: 105, B: 84, W: 63 (total 392)'

It must be exactly the same light, apart from the REVO3 looks better externally.

Scott.

[mark@pegasus]

Cheers Tony, Actually with the marquee lining at on the right I was thinking more Kingston Maurward

[Tony Scott]

Cheers Tony, Actually with the marquee lining at on the right I was thinking more Kingston Maurward

Ah yeah, I can see that!

[Dillmiester]

I used my new Miracled tonight and its a great effect, very clear, active, controllable (with Ca8). I had lots of people looking at the efect it was producing as it looks different.
Its not a center light though. I found I had to choose if it was to cover the dancefloor or walls, it wont do both. I chose to have it over head height onto the back wall and it was stunning. i kept looking at it and forgetting to mix the next song (oops).
I may considor hooking up another under it as this would be very good and give just the right area cover.

ps I too didnt go for the Impossibled due to its size!

[DJS]

Well, ive just ordered an Impossibled, and CA-8 controller (i hope its compatible:o ) so hopefully i'll be able to give it a little review before its fist outing on saturday night! :D

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Well, ive just ordered an Impossibled, and CA-8 controller (i hope its compatible:o ) so hopefully i'll be able to give it a little review before its fist outing on saturday night! :D

As much as i love the unit i think it's pointless using it with a CA-8 as the only real thing you can do with it is strobe and change programs. but that's my own opinion. I'm sure others say differently.

You won't be disappointed though:)

[DJS]

As much as i love the unit i think it's pointless using it with a CA-8 as the only real thing you can do with it is strobe and change programs:)

Or keep it in 'standby' mode, before revealing it later on in the night;)
Also, i had it to change the inbuilt programs as some of the ones it produces, ive heard can be a bit samey?
.....we'll see :D

It was hard enough trying to locate one, as everyone seems to be out of stock at the minute.
I had ordered one yesterday, but was awoken this morning by a phonecall to be told that their website wasn't updated yesterday and they were out of stock.
I tried various other places until finding out that 'Hard To Find Records' in Birmingham had 5 left in stock, and that they would price match what to what i got at the original supplier.

Chicken dinner......................................Winner !:D

Scott.
Should be here in the morning

[Vectis]

it's pointless using it with a CA-8 as the only real thing you can do with it is strobe and change programs

But surely that's all you'd do anyway without the CA8? Even with full DMX you're going to struggle to get anything fancier than the built-in programs unless you're colour-matching to other effects.

Most times my ImpossibLED is so high up, facing the dancefloor, that I can't see the LED readout anyway, so the CA8 is great for skipping through to a relevant program.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Or keep it in 'standby' mode, before revealing it later on in the night;)


I just use the on/off switch:)


Most times my ImpossibLED is so high up, facing the dancefloor, that I can't see the LED readout anyway, so the CA8 is great for skipping through to a relevant program.

I don't see the point in choosing which programs it uses just let it do its own thing. That's what its been designed for;)

[Vectis]

I don't see the point in choosing which programs it uses just let it do its own thing. That's what its been designed for;)

Hmmm.... maybe if it was the main effect you could 'let it loose' but I tend to use it as infill for others, so want a degree of control over spread and speed.

[JAMdisco]

I've got an ImpossibLED on order (hopefully sometime soon) and haven't bothered with the CA-8 as I'll probably be using it as the main light. Things might change in the future tho' as I've also ordered some LED PAR 56's with a controller.

[djsteve10]

Yeah, DMX controlled everything. I've programmed one sequence where the ImpossibLED and I-Moves are colour matched (the effect on the far side is one of the I-moves hitting one of the Mirrorballs).

Freestyler software and a DMX interface on dedicated laptop.

I use free styler just unsure on how to make sequences or program so im having to do it all live, Maybe you can shed some light on how you do this :D

[Tom]

I don't see the point in choosing which programs it uses just let it do its own thing. That's what its been designed for;)


So lets say you are using the effect at a wedding for a slow dance. Would you want the light to be wizzing about, flashing all the time or would you want it too be slow and calm????

I think the ca-8 is a great bit of kit. When i know the song will go quite for a few seconds I cut all the lights out and when the music starts again I brign on the lights again. Looks really good and I have have comments on how good my light show was. :)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

So lets say you are using the effect at a wedding for a slow dance. Would you want the light to be wizzing about, flashing all the time or would you want it too be slow and calm????



I wouldn't be using an Impossibled at all for a first dance to be honest, but the CA-8 is useful.

[Vectis]

I wouldn't be using an Impossibled at all for a first dance to be honest, but the CA-8 is useful.

:agree:

Wot he said :cool:

Unless the first dance was 'Night Fever' or something funky and disco-y.
But not many are :o

[gaza]

I can personally confirm this fact as ive just come off the American DJ website;)
It has red, green, blue and white LED's.

I have also just confirmed that the ImpossibLED has the same from this quoted on Prolight UK's website....
'LED's: R: 140 G: 105, B: 84, W: 63 (total 392)'

It must be exactly the same light, apart from the REVO3 looks better externally.

Scott.


I have the American dj Revo3.
It has the exact same lights and colours as the Impossibled, but i think the build quality is better.
The Revo 3 has a power in socket and a power out socket, so you can daisy chain the power lead to another light if you need to.
I also have the Acme Marveled, this has a slightly different light show, but it covers a smaller area, i think that is why it is cheaper.:)

[BrightLights]

Im looking at upgrading the centre part of my lighting rig (currently an Abstract Twister 4 250w) to something using LED, as i want a change, and im fed up with the bulbs in the Twister blowing nearly every gig.
So far ive narrowed it down to two lights, both from Acme,
The Impossibled,
The Miracled.


I know this is a bit late for the OP, but for anyone else who finds this thread later on...

I've got both (in fact I've got 2 Miracleds). The Impossibled's beams are brighter and it has a bigger coverage, so it makes a good centrepiece effect on its own. The Miracleds look superb in multiples (as i say, I have 2), and the tighter coverage actually helps in that they can be aimed carefully for a nice "designed" look. There's a video (by Phase One) on YouTube of 4 of them running together - very impressive.

I tend to use the Impossibled as a projected effect on the dancefloor or ceiling during any type of event, and I typically use the Miracleds as beam effects when smoke is allowed.

Both are good, and each has its strong points. I feel as though the effect from the Impossibled is a bit more "retro", where the Miracled looks more up to date, but maybe that's just me. Either way, they both have their place and both look very good, and you can't go wrong for the money.

[Tom]

I wouldn't be using an Impossibled at all for a first dance to be honest, but the CA-8 is useful.


Well I guess this all depends on what lights you use and how much room you have to take with you. I used it at one of my wedding on a slow effect and I thought it looked rather good. Slow song with slow Impossibled and the roadie on the dmx controller with the par cans fading colours.

[Tony Scott]

I wouldn't be using an Impossibled at all for a first dance to be honest, but the CA-8 is useful.


Well I guess this all depends on what lights you use and how much room you have to take with you. I used it at one of my wedding on a slow effect and I thought it looked rather good. Slow song with slow Impossibled and the roadie on the dmx controller with the par cans fading colours.


I DMX my ImpossibLED and have 'static' and 'slow' sequences for warm-up and 1st dances.

It takes a bit of time to programme them but you can get some great effects, fade from one pattern to another, dim out and back in to another colour, slow chases.....the possiblities are endless!

You can also tell it to go back to stand alone 'Sound-to-Light' mode whilst still under DMX control so you loose none of the great inbuilt programmes! :approve:

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

So lets say you are using the effect at a wedding for a slow dance. Would you want the light to be wizzing about, flashing all the time or would you want it too be slow and calm????

I think the ca-8 is a great bit of kit. When i know the song will go quite for a few seconds I cut all the lights out and when the music starts again I brign on the lights again. Looks really good and I have have comments on how good my light show was. :)

I can honestly say i have never used this effect for the first dance as i use my Puma's for the first dance.


I DMX my ImpossibLED and have 'static' and 'slow' sequences for warm-up and 1st dances.

It takes a bit of time to programme them but you can get some great effects, fade from one pattern to another, dim out and back in to another colour, slow chases.....the possiblities are endless!


I must say i am so tempted to try my hand at a bit of DMX programing as this sounds great but i wouldn't have a clue where to start. I guess i would have to get a USB to DMX converter thingy first:confused:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Well I guess this all depends on what lights you use and how much room you have to take with you. I used it at one of my wedding on a slow effect and I thought it looked rather good. Slow song with slow Impossibled and the roadie on the dmx controller with the par cans fading colours.

But there isn't a really slow effect Tom - that was my point. It's not really a first dance kind of effect IMO.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

But there isn't a really slow effect Tom - that was my point. It's not really a first dance kind of effect IMO.

There is no slow programs built in on the sound to light show but I'm sure if you created your own shows via DMX you could get some stunning slow effects / programs.

[nigelwright7557]

I mostly use mine dead-centre too, but in a situation where this would obscure my view I have been known to mount it off to one side on its own tripod to get more height.

I use my impossibled high on a tripod too.
Its an excellent effect.

Not quite sure why your bulbs are blowing so often, I never have any trouble with mine.

Could be:
1/ Fan not keeping lamp cool.
2/ Mechanical shock to the bulbs in transit or setting up/ taking down.
3/ Cheap and nasty bulbs.

[DJS]

Not quite sure why your bulbs are blowing so often, I never have any trouble with mine.
Could be:
1/ Fan not keeping lamp cool.
2/ Mechanical shock to the bulbs in transit or setting up/ taking down.
3/ Cheap and nasty bulbs.

I posted this problem up in another thread, and its not just the Twister 4, but my Gladiator Revolutions too.
The fans are always kept clean, and un-obstructed, i use Osram bulbs, and they are treated like royalty to/from the event.
I was told the bulb holder/connector, but as the fit is still tight, i can't see how it would cause probs.
I get literally 1 gig from 1 bulb!

This is why im looking at LED lighting.

As of today, my Impossibled hasn't arrived, so the next day delivery has now turned into a 3 day delivery:rolleyes:
Hopefully it'll be here tomorrow as i need it on saturday.

Scott.

[Tony Scott]

I must say i am so tempted to try my hand at a bit of DMX programing as this sounds great but i wouldn't have a clue where to start. I guess i would have to get a USB to DMX converter thingy first:confused:

I got my USB DMX 'thingy' from maplins, about £60. The freestyler software is free (just give a £5 donation or whatever). http://www.freestylerdmx.be/

You can download the programme and choose 'virtual interface'. This means you can have a play around with the programme before you get the USB - DMX 'thingy' or 'interface' :approve:

Also check this for info relating to DMX: http://www.thedmxwiki.com/

It takes a bit of playing around with but I just got stuck in and within an hour or two I was getting to grips with it and making lights move. You can also go on to the freestyler forum and get advice and fixture files for most DMX lights.

(fixture files are what you need to add a certain light to the programme before you can programme it, the software comes with the most popular fix. files)

They also supply a programme for making your own fixture files, I made my own for the impossibled because it wasn't available at the time, sure it is now. Once you have created a fix. file you can share it with others through the forum. :)

(Oops, that reminds me I have to PM mark@pegasus to give him a lesson on using freestyler!)

[djsteve10]

I got my USB DMX 'thingy' from maplins, about £60. The freestyler software is free (just give a £5 donation or whatever). http://www.freestylerdmx.be/

You can download the programme and choose 'virtual interface'. This means you can have a play around with the programme before you get the USB - DMX 'thingy' or 'interface' :approve:

Also check this for info relating to DMX: http://www.thedmxwiki.com/

It takes a bit of playing around with but I just got stuck in and within an hour or two I was getting to grips with it and making lights move. You can also go on to the freestyler forum and get advice and fixture files for most DMX lights.

(fixture files are what you need to add a certain light to the programme before you can programme it, the software comes with the most popular fix. files)

They also supply a programme for making your own fixture files, I made my own for the impossibled because it wasn't available at the time, sure it is now. Once you have created a fix. file you can share it with others through the forum. :)

(Oops, that reminds me I have to PM mark@pegasus to give him a lesson on using freestyler!)

I use freestyler, i have to do all my programming live, do you know how to program scnese so you can just click a button and the scene is activated :D

[Tony Scott]

I use freestyler, i have to do all my programming live, do you know how to program scnese so you can just click a button and the scene is activated :D

I think I understand what you're asking?

Have you created a sequence in 'Create Sequence' (where you create a sequence) and then inserted it into 'Submasters'? (submasters is where you play-back the sequence you have created)

You have to click on the ICON that looks like a blank piece of paper to start creating a sequence of scenes. You can have 15 scenes in a sequence.
Have you gone this far yet?

[djsteve10]

I am as far as getting the lights to move, not really got my head around the creating a sequence bit yet though.

[chorleyjim]

I got my USB DMX 'thingy' from maplins, about £60.

is that one you have to assemble yourself?? , if so how easy was it to do?

[Tony Scott]

is that one you have to assemble yourself?? , if so how easy was it to do?

Yeah the DIY thing. Took me about 45 mins to complete, if you can solder it's pretty easy! :)

[Shaun]

They also supply a programme for making your own fixture files, I made my own for the impossibled because it wasn't available at the time, sure it is now. Once you have created a fix. file you can share it with others through the forum. :)




Care to share? :D

I wouldn't mind a copy of the impossibled fixture file if you don't mind. :)


I got my USB DMX 'thingy' from maplins, about £60.

Is this (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=46502&doy=30m5&C=SO&U=strat15) the one?.

[Tony Scott]

Care to share? :D

I wouldn't mind a copy of the impossibled fixture file if you don't mind. :)

No problem Shaun, I'll email you with an attachment at the weekend.




Is this (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=46502&doy=30m5&C=SO&U=strat15) the one?.

That's the fella! :)

[Shaun]

Thanks Tony, Looking forward to the email.


Regarding the Maplins DMX. It doesn't mention self assembly or the need to solder it together on the website. What exactly is involved?. Cheers.

[Boogie Boy]

Just seen the Equinox Carbon, which looks far more interesting than impossibLED. Maybe wait for Acme's version of it, which can't be very far round the corner.

[dancopp]

Ive tried to get hold of an Miracled for the last 2 weeks put a deposit down and now have to wait another 2 weeks as there no Disco shops in Bath and they are completlety sold out in Bristol..... Oh nooooo

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Ive tried to get hold of an Miracled for the last 2 weeks put a deposit down and now have to wait another 2 weeks as there no Disco shops in Bath and they are completlety sold out in Bristol..... Oh nooooo

Have you tried Oasis in Bristol? They had about 4 in stock last visit?

[BrightLights]

I think I understand what you're asking?

Have you created a sequence in 'Create Sequence' (where you create a sequence) and then inserted it into 'Submasters'? (submasters is where you play-back the sequence you have created)

You have to click on the ICON that looks like a blank piece of paper to start creating a sequence of scenes. You can have 15 scenes in a sequence.
Have you gone this far yet?

I use FreeStyler too. I find the simplest way is to create a load of sequences that do what you want, then add them all to a "Cue" window and control them from there.

You can run multiple sequences on top of each other too, for the same fixtures, so you can have various sequences for movement, some for colours, some for gobos, etc, and then choose to combine them as appropriate. It takes a bit of work but gives loads of variation to your lightshow.

Once you get your head round it it's a great bit of software.

[Tony Scott]

I use FreeStyler too. I find the simplest way is to create a load of sequences that do what you want, then add them all to a "Cue" window and control them from there.

You can run multiple sequences on top of each other too, for the same fixtures, so you can have various sequences for movement, some for colours, some for gobos, etc, and then choose to combine them as appropriate. It takes a bit of work but gives loads of variation to your lightshow.

Once you get your head round it it's a great bit of software.

Yeah I'd agree for those just starting out it can look a bit daunting, simple enough when you're used to it though?

[Tony Scott]

Thanks Tony, Looking forward to the email.


Regarding the Maplins DMX. It doesn't mention self assembly or the need to solder it together on the website. What exactly is involved?. Cheers.

If you can solder then you can build it. It comes as a pcb, a load of components and a case.

The PCB has all the components printed on it so it's 'electronics-by-numbers', just match up the components to the printed pcb and solder it all up - easy!

[Shaun]

If you can solder then you can build it. It comes as a pcb, a load of components and a case.

The PCB has all the components printed on it so it's 'electronics-by-numbers', just match up the components to the printed pcb and solder it all up - easy!

Too much like hard work..lol. Don't any other manufacturers make them pre-made?

[BrightLights]

Too much like hard work..lol. Don't any other manufacturers make them pre-made?

Yep, I bought mine off eBay. Ready made for about £60. It was years ago now though so I can't remember the details...

[BrightLights]

Yeah I'd agree for those just starting out it can look a bit daunting, simple enough when you're used to it though?

Definitely. It's worth sticking at it - once it "clicks" in your head it's much easier than you might think at first.

[HaiFai]

Hi all slightly off topic :sorry: got my latest purchase of an impossled today, using for first time at a wedding saturday (lively crowd into 80's to 00's) just wondered best program for it.I have use of a ca-8 controller also.Not yet had time to go through all programs as yet and just wnated a quick solution to a decent program for floor effect for the night.

[dancopp]

Have you tried Oasis in Bristol? They had about 4 in stock last visit?

Yea, thats where i put a deposit down, went in last week and they sold out. a week before they had them in stock but didnt have cash on me at the time - went over to pick up me repaired mixer

[Shaun]

Hi all slightly off topic :sorry: got my latest purchase of an impossled today, using for first time at a wedding saturday (lively crowd into 80's to 00's) just wondered best program for it.I have use of a ca-8 controller also.Not yet had time to go through all programs as yet and just wnated a quick solution to a decent program for floor effect for the night.


The CA8 will be fine for it. Show 3 is the less manic of the 12 in-built shows, show 1 is a combination of all the shows. On the CA8 press the bottom button once to go into show select mode, then press the middle button to cycle through the shows. You'll need to look at the back of the ImpossibLED to see the show selection on the LED. Have fun. :)

[Tony Scott]

Too much like hard work..lol. Don't any other manufacturers make them pre-made?

Never used one of these but it looks good!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB2DMX-JMS-USB-Interface-for-PC-Laptop-512-DMX-Channel_W0QQitemZ160243885812QQihZ006QQcategoryZ14 984QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Shaun]

Cheers Tony. Now THAT looks a whole lot simpler. Much better.

[HaiFai]

The CA8 will be fine for it. Show 3 is the less manic of the 12 in-built shows, show 1 is a combination of all the shows. On the CA8 press the bottom button once to go into show select mode, then press the middle button to cycle through the shows. You'll need to look at the back of the ImpossibLED to see the show selection on the LED. Have fun. :)

Thanks Shaun will use them tonight:)

[blitz]

I use the afterglow magic dongal with freestyler no probs, handy being the same size as a usb cable to.

http://www.nextec.co.uk/PC-DMX-Controllers/Afterglow-PC-DMX-controllers.html

similar to the one in the post above, the guy that runs the site that i have linked to is very helpfull if you run into problems and the freestyler forum has alot of usefull info.

[Shaun]

Thanks, Brad. :)

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Yea, thats where i put a deposit down, went in last week and they sold out. a week before they had them in stock but didnt have cash on me at the time - went over to pick up me repaired mixer

Shame. Great shop but sorry to hear but your problem.

[DJS]

Ive posted up a review on the ImpossibLED for anyone interested ;) ......

http://www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=12572

Cheers,
Scott.