Civil partnership page

[Spirits High]

Hi All,

Just doing a bit of a straw poll to see who has a seperate weddings and Civil partnerships pages on their sites.


If you do has it been commented on by clients?

[Shaun]

Hi All,

Just doing a bit of a straw poll to see who has a seperate weddings and Civil partnerships pages on their sites.


If you do has it been commented on by clients?

I don't currently have a separate page, but it's definitely on my "to do " list.

[Vectis]

No, because I think it implies that there is a difference. In my experience, CP couples won't like that and would like to be treated in the same way as any other couple. If anything you should be differentiating between church weddings and civil weddings, which is nonsensical because you're only providing a disco.

The only exception to the above might be particularly flambouyant gay couples wanting something wild, wacky or positively pink - but that's no different to traditional heterosexual couples wanting to do something different or special for their big day...

If it was me, I'd be looking to have "Traditional" and "Contemporary" wedding pages advertising your specific slants - this would be a much more appropriate action.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I have a separate page for them.

Why not?

I'm not making out that anything is different, just giving it a defined area. Why would gay people want to read about heterosexual weddings?

[Vectis]

Well maybe I've had an unrepresentative bunch, but the CP couples I've dealt with personally have all at some point expressed disdain at suppliers who assume that because what they're doing isn't "conventional" that they suddenly get different treatment - from the extremes of personal prejudice clearly showing through in the relationship to having all things 'pink' foisted upon them as if that's what they must be looking for.

I've had people thank me for not making the same assumptions. And yes, I've serviced both types of gigs - the traditional and the flambouyant.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Yep, I've done both types too, but I don't see that having a separate page on a website makes any difference.

If it did, then why would gay bars, gay magazines and gay internet sites exist?

All of the couples who's pictures I put on the civil partnership page loved it.

[Marc J]

I don't currently have a separate page, but it's definitely on my "to do " list.

Don't you mean my "to do" list, then? :p

I think the only reason for having a separate page, or mention, on (any of) your website(s) is to pick up on the term "civil partnership" for SEO purposes.

True, you might offend any easily offended same-sex couples by differentiating this from the "normal" wedding gig, but at the same time you probably want to be found for "civil partnership disco" in searches - but is that term actually used in searches? Wouldn't a same-sex couple just search for "wedding disco" anyway? I don't know....

[Shaun]

Don't you mean my "to do" list, then? :p


That's what I meant. :lol:




True, you might offend any easily offended same-sex couples by differentiating this from the "normal" wedding gig, but at the same time you probably want to be found for "civil partnership disco" in searches - but is that term actually used in searches? Wouldn't a same-sex couple just search for "wedding disco" anyway? I don't know....

I've never had a same sex couple book me for a "same sex wedding reception". The terminology used (by the client) in every enquiry and booking has always been 'Civil Ceremony' or Civil Partnership'.

[rob1963]

I don't have a civil partnership page on my website, and have no plans to, but then again I don't have a weddings page either!

I don't see the point of having different pages for all the different types of functions you do...when you are still providing the same basic service...a mobile disco which meets with the client's requirements.

To be honest, wedding pages on disco websites bore me, as they are all the same sort of thing, with the usual crap about how "Your wedding day is one of the most important days of your life" and "We will work with you to ensure that everything is perfect and you have a night to remember" etc etc.

Yawn!

[Steve the DJ]

I don't have a seperate page and have no intention to add one in the forseeable future, I just have a "Your Reception" section.

[Tom]

I don't have one either and dont plan to. In my eyes and other its the same thing, same special day, just the same sex.

[CRAZY K]

I don't have a civil partnership page on my website, and have no plans to, but then again I don't have a weddings page either!

I don't see the point of having different pages for all the different types of functions you do...when you are still providing the same basic service...a mobile disco which meets with the client's requirements.

To be honest, wedding pages on disco websites bore me, as they are all the same sort of thing, with the usual crap about how "Your wedding day is one of the most important days of your life" and "We will work with you to ensure that everything is perfect and you have a night to remember" etc etc.

Yawn!

Yes Yawn again--its amazing how everyones Wedding is the best ever--

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I READ THAT--- Yawn.

I do mention CC on my site although I only ever did one a few years ago.

They were so embarrassed about it they didnt even tell me what was going on.

I thought it was a Family Party--well it was of sorts!!!!!! until I got to the gig:eek: :eek: :eek:

Very nice people all round --good fun---got the pictures somewhere--since then we have had the legislation so I suppose its not such a big deal anymore.

Im not sure my style appeals too much to that market--:D :D :D

CRAZY K

[Corabar Steve]

No, but we do have seperate info packs.

The one for CPCs asks things like how they would like to be refered to etc (so far we've had a couple of groom & grooms & a few happy couples. Mostly it's just refer to them by their names)

[ppentertainments]

Not yet bu definetely on my to do list. Attended a CP for friends ouf ours and they said a couple of dj's turned them down. Definetely a market there for this.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Not yet bu definetely on my to do list. Attended a CP for friends ouf ours and they said a couple of dj's turned them down.

Hence the reason for my separate page, so that people know we're in the market.

[rob1963]

For those of you who've said you will be doing a separate web page for civil partnerships, I'd love to know what you will put on there & how it will differ to your wedding page.

I'm just curious.

[Sam]

For those of you who've said you will be doing a separate web page for civil partnerships, I'd love to know what you will put on there & how it will differ to your wedding page.

I'm just curious.

Rob,
I think it isn't so much differing the content.. it is having it in their faces.. so they instantly know that the service they are after is provided.
And it is just a case, I suppose, of making it "gay friendly" - taking out "bridge and groom" or "his and her" etc etc.

I personally have no problems with same sex relationships - (that isn't an invite Darren!! ;) :D ) - But when the website has been "re-done" to include a few pages it will just say "weddings".

Although - here is a question.
If two gay people get married - is it still a wedding? :confused:

[Corabar Steve]

taking out "bridge and groom" or "his and her" etc etc.:

Big girl was she?

[rob1963]

Rob,
I think it isn't so much differing the content.. it is having it in their faces.. so they instantly know that the service they are after is provided.
And it is just a case, I suppose, of making it "gay friendly" - taking out "bridge and groom" or "his and her" etc etc.

That's fair enough, Sam.

What I don't understand is why several people have said they will be introducing a webpage for civil partnerships...but how many of them have a page for 40th birthday parties? or a page for retirement parties? or a page for engagement parties? or a page for christmas parties?...when all of these occasions offer a much bigger market for most DJs than civil partnerships.

Surely it makes more sense to just list the types of functions you cater for, and to include civil partnerships on the list...straight after weddings.

I wonder if they are doing it because they think it isn't politically correct NOT to mention them, and they also feel that JUST mentioning the fact that they do them isn't enough, and that it's actually necessary to have a whole webpage for them.

:shrug:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Surely it makes more sense to just list the types of functions you cater for, and to include civil partnerships on the list...straight after marriages.

I wonder if they are doing it because they think it isn't politically correct NOT to mention them, and they also feel that JUST mentioning the fact that they do them isn't enough, and that it's actually necessary to have a whole webpage for them.

:shrug:


Just because you don't understand it and don't get it, it doesn't mean others can't do it Rob.

I am trying to get a foothold in a very lucrative market, which is why I have a separate page. I also have a separate page for teenage discos, so that they can see exactly what they get.

Politically correct? Nothing to do with the fact.

All of my guys are fine with DJing at any kind of event as I have discussed it with them. I also have a gay DJ who works for me with who I discuss some of these matters.

If you don't want a separate page and don't think it's necessary, then don't do it. I have put the reasons why I do, so hopefully you understand why I do.

[rob1963]

Just because you don't understand it and don't get it, it doesn't mean others can't do it Rob.


Of course not, and I never said otherwise.


I am trying to get a foothold in a very lucrative market, which is why I have a separate page.

That's fair enough.

I'd be very interested to know how long you've had the civil partnerships page & how many bookings you are taking for these events.


Politically correct? Nothing to do with the fact.

Not in your case maybe, but I'm wondering whether this IS the case with some of the others who will be introduceing a civil partnerships page.

With your own page, I get the impression that you decided to add the page, but weren't too sure about what to put on it, as it seems to be more about the people who had the partnerships and not so much about the service you provided for them...unlike your wedding page which has MUCH more general information about the SERVICE you provide.

For example, phrases like "Andy and Pete looked fantastic in their matching cream and burgundy suits, topped off with waistcoats and cravats" and "Nigel and Mark looked resplendant in their matching silver morning suits, topped off with light blue cravats and buttonholes" and "Both the chaps look resplendent in matching dark tailcoats, with yellow waist coats and cravats, with black patent shoes to finish the ensemble" sounds more like a review of a fashion show than a mobile disco's webpage about civil partnerships.

Regardless of what's intended, that's the way it comes over to me.

I'm just curious why your weddings page is more about the SERVICE, whereas the civil partnerships is more about the PEOPLE.


All of my guys are fine with DJing at any kind of event as I have discussed it with them. I also have a gay DJ who works for me with who I discuss some of these matters.


Don't get me wrong, I am also fine with DJing at pretty much any kind of event (apart from kids parties, 18ths & 21sts).

I've not yet done a civil partnership, but that's simply because I've only ever had one enquiry, and I was already booked on the date they wanted.


If you don't want a separate page and don't think it's necessary, then don't do it.

I don't, I don't and I won't!


I have put the reasons why I do, so hopefully you understand why I do.

Yes...I have a better idea now than before, although I'm a bit confused by the actual content, so thanks for explaining it.

:)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Perhaps you haven't done a cilvil partnership because you have no information or a separate page on your website about it.

[rob1963]

Perhaps you haven't done a civil partnership because you have no information or a separate page on your website about it.

That may well be true!

I'm looking forward to my first one (whenever it might be), as I rarely get the chance to do functions I haven't done before, and it's always interesting to do something a bit different to the bog standard weddings, 40th birthday parties etc.

:)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I did a civil partnership a few weeks ago and one of the ladies told me she found and booked me because I had a separate page for civil partnerships and knew we were gay friendly.

So that justifies it for me.

[Dragonfly]

I toyed with this idea for a while ..... but then decided ......... it's a wedding!!! why differenciate , i'd be well miffed if i started seeing "disabled parties" pages or god forbid "black parties" pages on peoples websites , I try and make it known i am just as open to civil parnerships as any other function but would never make a point of splitting them from weddings as from a personal point of view i would feel i was being predjudiced by splitting them from a hetrosexual wedding.

just my thoughts.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I toyed with this idea for a while ..... but then decided ......... it's a wedding!!! why differenciate , i'd be well miffed if i started seeing "disabled parties" pages or god forbid "black parties" pages on peoples websites , I try and make it known i am just as open to civil parnerships as any other function but would never make a point of splitting them from weddings as from a personal point of view i would feel i was being predjudiced by splitting them from a hetrosexual wedding.

just my thoughts.

How on earth is having a separate page being predjudiced? You need to think this through Dave.

How many gays go to gay bars and complain they are being predjudiced because it is a venue especially for them?

[CRAZY K]

Perhaps you haven't done a cilvil partnership because you have no information or a separate page on your website about it.

Are you saying you believe you get MORE bookings of this type because of your specialist page ( than you would have done without it)

Whats the increase in CP bookings since you put this page on the net?

If its showing as a growth area for your business then its a good business case to have one:thumbs_up:

I did read somewhere though the surge is over and the numbers are dropping now.

Mind you theres plenty of separations going on so potential for more in the future!

CRAZY K
(Last Wedding booked was a CP)

[Steve the DJ]

I know it wasn't that long ago that I said I had no plans to add a separate page but on reflection I intend to do so.

If nothing else it will help with SEO and show we are able to service this particular market.

[Dragonfly]

How on earth is having a separate page being predjudiced? You need to think this through Dave.

How many gays go to gay bars and complain they are being predjudiced because it is a venue especially for them?

question right back at you Daz how is a civil partnership in anyway different from a wedding ??? maybe predjudiced is too stronger word ..... but to my thinking the fact someone has a different sexual orientation doesnt warrent them having a "special" page on my website??

yes it is great to advertise that you do these functions but i personally think it looks "politically" better if it is incorporated into the same page that everyone else looks at,

again just my opinion


by all means it is a great idea to publicise the fact that your business is friendly to all walks of life without having a big neon "I don't mind you're gay page"


not being gay but having been to many gay nights etc with friends they like it as it is a chance for them to meet like minded people that they can associate with with out fear or with reduced fear of the narrow minded views of society getting in the way.

maybe im just really naive in my thinking but we offer a service and to my mind to be closed to offering services to certain sections of the population in 2008 is just totally ridiculous ?? i just dont feel i need to openly advertise in a special way that a particular person is allowed to enquire about my expertise.

[CRAZY K]

Are you saying you believe you get MORE bookings of this type because of your specialist page ( than you would have done without it)

Whats the increase in CP bookings since you put this page on the net?

If its showing as a growth area for your business then its a good business case to have one:thumbs_up:

I did read somewhere though the surge is over and the numbers are dropping now.

Mind you theres plenty of separations going on so potential for more in the future!

CRAZY K
(Last Wedding booked was a CP)

The more I think about this the more I think Paul should view it as a purely business matter.

If your an established sole DJ who is booked out almost every Saturday night then unless your going to charge appreciably more and increase your profit margin on CP bookings then all that happens is you get more bookings of that type than before but you dont gain financially. You can only cover one booking per night.

If on the other hand you are attracting CP gigs on all sorts of DIFFERENT days to your normal gigs then great your winning--although from my limited experience that doesnt seem to happen.

If your a multi operation with several DJs available then you probably win through more TURNOVER.

So you need to consider these business aspects I would say ahead of anything else.

I have undertaken a similar exercise myself with Western events and although they all want it on a Saturday:eek: ---the prices are higher ---so its worthwhile:D

CRAZY K

[Javlingames]

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[Solitaire Events Ltd]

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Another rude comment.

Use your brain. This is a family forum.

[Javlingames]

Another?

OK sorry, but it was kinda funny?

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

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Another rude comment.




Another?

OK sorry, but it was kinda funny?

Not really.

[Corabar Steve]

Not even remotely.

[Penfold42]

Not laughing here and I laugh at most things!

[Spirits High]

Not laughing here and I laugh at most things!

You have to Tone, we've secretly filmed one of your gigs :D :D :D

Anyway Back on Topic I think I'll see how my gig on the 24th goes (first Cp) and probably use pics from that for the new page ;)

[One Vision]

No, because I think it implies that there is a difference. In my experience, CP couples won't like that and would like to be treated in the same way as any other couple. If anything you should be differentiating between church weddings and civil weddings, which is nonsensical because you're only providing a disco.

The only exception to the above might be particularly flambouyant gay couples wanting something wild, wacky or positively pink - but that's no different to traditional heterosexual couples wanting to do something different or special for their big day...

If it was me, I'd be looking to have "Traditional" and "Contemporary" wedding pages advertising your specific slants - this would be a much more appropriate action.

Why is it not different, if it was the same then they would be both called a wedding

[One Vision]

How on earth is having a separate page being predjudiced? You need to think this through Dave.

How many gays go to gay bars and complain they are being prejudiced because it is a venue especially for them?

Out of pure interest how many "straight " bars clubs pubs do you see?
None as thats being prejudiced or would be seen to be so, so how do gay bars get a way with it?