The hit and hope club

[CRAZY K]

Well fellow members did you have a successful weekend--no tracks miscued,
no wrong tracks, no fading in too early or too late?

Just to report--no glitches or problems at this weeks gig for me.

Hit and hope ---worked every time.

No headphones in sight.

:D :D :D

CRAZY K

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Amateurs, the lot of you. :sj:

[wensleydale]

i dont get the desire to shout about this......

[rob1963]

i dont get the desire to shout about this......

Then whisper, Rich!

:D

[wensleydale]

ok.

<whisper>
i dont understand why people are happy to be "in" a club which several people on this site think has an amateurish attitude to djing.

</whisper>

[rob1963]

i dont understand why people are happy to be "in" a club which several people on this site think has an amateurish attitude to djing.

Just because several people on this site think a certain practice is amateurish, it doesn't mean EVERYONE does.

Does this also mean nobody should use megimixes, just because several people on this site think it's a sign of a lazy DJ?

There is no right or wrong here, it's all down to individual preferences.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Question for you.

Do you test the mic before using it to introduce the bride and groom at a wedding?

Do you sound check equipment?

Do you check lighting to make sure it's working?

[wensleydale]

yes
yes
and thrice yes.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm just wondering if people always do these important checks, why they wouldn't check if the music is cued correctly and ready to go.

[rob1963]

Question for you.

Do you test the mic before using it to introduce the bride and groom at a wedding?

Do you sound check equipment?

Do you check lighting to make sure it's working?

Yes, yes and yes...but only once at the beginning of the evening.

For example, I dont blow on the mic to make sure its working every time before I use it.

[rob1963]

I'm just wondering if people always do these important checks, why they wouldn't check if the music is cued correctly and ready to go.

Because the track name is on the display, if it's a track you've played before you'll know the id tag is correct & might even know what the volume is like...

...so unless it's a track you haven't played before, or if it has a long intro which you need to cut off, then many people will decide there's no need.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Well, I will wait until one of your club is honest enough to say they had a problem with an mp3 or dead space at the beginning of a song and then I will laugh my head off.

I still can't see why you wouldn't check.

What about songs that need to be started further in or at certain points? How on earth do you do that without headphones?

[Excalibur]

Well, I will wait until one of your club is honest enough to say they had a problem with an mp3 or dead space at the beginning of a song and then I will laugh my head off.

I still can't see why you wouldn't check.

What about songs that need to be started further in or at certain points? How on earth do you do that without headphones?

Good heavens Darren, I do hope you're not implying that we have to add dishonesty to our obvious failings?:confused:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Good heavens Darren, I do hope you're not implying that we have to add dishonesty to our obvious failings?:confused:

What?

Why put words into my mouth?

I'm not saying it's a failing and I didn't say that anyone was dishonest.

I would have thought that cueing a song for a DJ is essential. If you don't feel the need to, then it's up to you.

[rob1963]

What about songs that need to be started further in or at certain points? How on earth do you do that without headphones?

You don't.

I've already said that for songs with a long intro that needs to be cut off, you DO have to use headphones to pre-listen so you can cue it when you want it to start.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

So the hit and hope club doesn't really exist then?

[rob1963]

So the hit and hope club doesn't really exist then?

Yes, but it's simply not possible to hit & hope when the track has a long or quiet intro which you need to cut off.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Yes, but it's simply not possible to hit & hope when the track has a long or quiet intro which you need to cut off.

But that is the whole point surely? Hit and hope? :confused:

If you need headphones or need to cue a track then the phrase is null and void surely?

[Excalibur]

But that is the whole point surely? Hit and hope? :confused:

If you need headphones or need to cue a track then the phrase is null and void surely?

Hallelujah! He has seen the light! Of course it is Darren, what some of us are saying is that particularly for some styles of DJ, having every track cued up to the millisecond is not a priority. There are of course tracks which have to be cued up with headphones to the desired portion.
I'm really going to have to only post deadly serious replies, the flippant ones are causing too much grief!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm really going to have to only post deadly serious replies, the flippant ones are causing too much grief!

Not causing grief Peter, but it is hard to know whether you are being flippant or not tbh.

[Excalibur]

Not causing grief Peter, but it is hard to know whether you are being flippant or not tbh.

Sorry! :( :( :(

( Seriously )

[rob1963]

But that is the whole point surely? Hit and hope?

Ok, let me clarify.

A more accurate (but more long-winded) description of the hit & hope club would be "The hit & hope club, apart from any tracks with long intros which need to be cut off, and therefore DO require pre-listening in headphones"

The difference being some DJs, such as yourself will listen to the beginning of EVERY track in the headphones before they play it.

However, members of thew "hit & hope" club will normally cue up a track, push up the fader & hit the play button UNLESS the need to monitor a long intro which needs cutting off.


If you need headphones or need to cue a track then the phrase is null and void surely?

For any tracks you listen to in the headphones before playing, yes.

It's a bit like saying someone with a car is not a pedestrian. When they are on foot, they ARE a pedestrian.

I hope that clarifies things.

:)

[BeerFunk]

I still think it's absolute lunacy to save 2-3 seconds per track. Digital MP3 controllers have saved you up to a minute, maybe more for rarer tracks, so you've got extra time to do a perfect job. I just can't understand why you wouldn't be thorough - there's no reason not to be.

I can of course understand that there are many tracks which you use regularly, that won't need monitoring - I get that point. But for something so simple and quick... :confused:

[Impactdisco]

Well, I will wait until one of your club is honest enough to say they had a problem with an mp3 or dead space at the beginning of a song and then I will laugh my head off.

OK here goes.
I'll be honest enough to admit a mistake.

Darren I don't take headphones, and I had a request over Christmas for Them Baby Please Don't Go'. I tagged it wrong and it was in fact 'Gloria'. Yes it was a boo boo and I felt silly. Apologised to guest, but he said don't worry about it, he liked 'Gloria' just as much.

It's the first mistake I've made since April 2006 when I started with OTS.

With regard to finding cue points on long intros etc, in OTS, you can add cue points which is what I do to tracks with long intros. I do lots of work to my tracks when I'm not out working, so I'm confident about not having a problem.

That's why I'm happy to just hit the button.

I hope you don't feel that makes me a bad DJ. I have loads of letters which show that my clients feel I do a great job.

Can you please now pick your head back up off the floor?:D

[rob1963]

I can of course understand that there are many tracks which you use regularly, that won't need monitoring - I get that point.

Ahhh...but many people DON'T get that point Beerfunk.

They STILL pre-listen to EVERY track before playing it...even the ones they use regularly & have played dozens, if not hundreds of times before.

I really don't get that.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I can of course understand that there are many tracks which you use regularly, that won't need monitoring - I get that point. But for something so simple and quick... :confused:

Exactly.




I hope you don't feel that makes me a bad DJ.

Yes, you're rubbish. Now leave my forum and never come back again. :D


Ahhh...but many people DON'T get that point Beerfunk.



I do.;)

[Impactdisco]

Yes, you're rubbish. Now leave my forum and never come back again. :D



That's it, I'm gonna have to go & cry myself to sleep:cry: :Embarassed:

[robbiedj]

OK here goes.
With regard to finding cue points on long intros etc, in OTS, you can add cue points which is what I do to tracks with long intros. I do lots of work to my tracks when I'm not out working, so I'm confident about not having a problem.



I always run through intro and outro after loading the track into OTS and set both cue points to suit. I must be a hit and hope too. :D