Random tracks or sets?

[One Vision]

Hya folks on some of the play-lists that I have seen from some of the members they seem to be very random tracks.

Is it better to play random or obviously depending on the audience play various small sets, as an example say a good Motown track does well maybe play 3-4 other Motown track in a row?

I know if I am playing say billy ocean Caribbean queen Ill also play such as chain reaction or other very similar tracks before or after as like a mini set.

[Penfold42]

Mini sets work for me.....but have been known to throw caution to the wind....so mix it up a bit....

Depends how i feel.....

...but mostly mini sets......up to 4 tracks per set...:)

[djsteve10]

I always do mini sets or just keep the dancefloor going with 70's for a while if it is going well or 80's and so on, Just accomate to what you've got on the dancefloor.

[rob1963]

I usually do mini sets, but sometimes just mix it up...so nobody has any idea what is coming next.

[Penfold42]

I usually do mini sets, but sometimes just mix it up...so nobody has any idea what is coming next.

What even you....:p

[BeerFunk]

I stick to similar tracks over about 2-4 songs, and try to use linking tracks to change tempo or genre... a microphone announcement is also a good bridge.


I usually do mini sets, but sometimes just mix it up...so nobody has any idea what is coming next.

What even you....:pNa, he hits a button and hopes for the best! :p

[rob1963]

What even you....:p

Correct! :D


Na, he hits a button and hopes for the best! :p

:moon:

[PropellerHeadCase]

Yep, sets and segues.

[DazzyD]

Usually mini-sets but depends on the function and what the client asks for. A few weeks ago a was asked to mix up the whole night with different song genres and tempos. I certainly played something for everyone!

[Corabar Steve]

I usually do mini sets, but sometimes just mix it up...so nobody has any idea what is coming next.

Although they might have a pretty good idea that it might be one of your top 100 :sj:

I try for mini sets too, although some gigs it's just not possible. When that happens, it's usually due to sheer volume of requests & I'll point out that I've had so many requests that I'll play them in the order I got them (although I will also try & do a bit of grouping if I can)

[rob1963]

I usually do mini sets, but sometimes just mix it up...so nobody has any idea what is coming next.


Although they might have a pretty good idea that it might be one of your top 100 :sj:

Indeed, although all DJs have a top 100.

It is simply their most requested/played songs, and I see nothing wrong with catering for the majority.

I'm sure that in the case of weddings, most other peoples list will be very similar to mine, and include such songs as Dancing queen, Staying alive, Young hearts run free, Build me up buttercup, Grease megamix, I've had the time of my life, Don't stop me now, I wanna dance with somebody, Valerie, Don't feel like dancing etc etc etc

[Corabar Steve]

Indeed, although all DJs have a top 100.
I can't be a DJ then.

Why plough a rut for yourself? I know a lot of tracks that work (& loads that don't), but making a top 100 list to play from is the quickest way to get stale (we've got requests for that)

[rob1963]

Indeed, although all DJs have a top 100.



I can't be a DJ then.

Don't you have 100 songs you play more than the others then?

Or do you play every track you own exactly the same number of times?

:confused:


making a top 100 list to play from is the quickest way to get stale (we've got requests for that)

I disagree.

On average, clients provide about half the music I play, and then there are rerquests on the night. Working to an average playing time of about three hours, this means I'll only play about 20 songs from my top 120 list...which gives room for plenty of variety, as it means I could do 6 gigs in a row without repeating the same song. I'd hardly call that stale!

[Corabar Steve]

No, I don't have a top 100, I think it's a totally pointless idea. There are far more than 100 songs that work well in a mobile disco environment & while the punters keep asking for Dancing Queen, I don't feel like dancing, Cha cha slide & the like there is utterly no point in compiling one
Or do you play every track you own exactly the same number of times?!
Don't be ridiculous, & stop trying to twist my words.

[Vectis]

I'm sure that in the case of weddings, most other peoples list will be very similar to mine, and include such songs as Dancing queen, Staying alive, Young hearts run free, Build me up buttercup, Grease megamix, I've had the time of my life, Don't stop me now, I wanna dance with somebody, Valerie, Don't feel like dancing etc etc etc

How very interesting.... If I were to take my "average" wedding, then out of the 10 songs mentioned I can hand on heart say I'd 'probably' play 2 of those songs - Dancing Queen & Scissors. I 'might' play Buttercup, Time of my life and that Whitney abomination. The other 5 I'd never think of playing unless I was asked for them.

So maybe if I did have a Top 100 (which I don't) it would look very different to Rob's. Anyone else concur?

[rob1963]

No, I don't have a top 100, I think it's a totally pointless idea. There are far more than 100 songs that work well in a mobile disco environment & while the punters keep asking for Dancing Queen, I don't feel like dancing, Cha cha slide & the like there is utterly no point in compiling one
Don't be ridiculous, & stop trying to twist my words.

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, Steve.

When I talk about a Djs top 100, I'm referring to the 100 songs they get requested the most.

Obviously many DJs will not record this information or play from this list, but many, including myself DO.

As for there being utterly no point in compiling a list of popular songs, tell that to everyone who has such a list on their website, of which there are many!

[Corabar Steve]

Each to their own, but my opinion stands, & is valid.

[theoloyla]

I try for mini sets too, although some gigs it's just not possible. When that happens, it's usually due to sheer volume of requests & I'll point out that I've had so many requests that I'll play them in the order I got them (although I will also try & do a bit of grouping if I can)
Me too

[rob1963]

Each to their own, but my opinion stands, & is valid.

I expected your opinion to stand, and of COURSE it's valid...

...it's just as valid as the opinions of those of us who DON'T agree with you!

:D

[Dillmiester]

Although they might have a pretty good idea that it might be one of your top 100 :sj:

I try for mini sets too, although some gigs it's just not possible. When that happens, it's usually due to sheer volume of requests & I'll point out that I've had so many requests that I'll play them in the order I got them (although I will also try & do a bit of grouping if I can)

Playing requests in the order you get them?
Dont you find it annoying when you have a dancefloor full playing one genre and you get a request for completly different tracks that you suspect that just one person wants to listen to.

Last weekend I was playing through a 70's disco mini set and the floor was full.
The requests were coming in for
Anything modern fast dance (from the young girls)
Play some R n B (from a diffent slightly older girl)
Simple minds - Alive and kicking (from a very drunk bloke)
An obscure Beech Boys track which i cant remember (from another drunk bloke)
AND - Neil Diamond!

What can you do!
In the end I decided that the older group that were on the floor would stay for modern dance so I stepped it up over a few songs to some recent dance. Some left but the young crowd came in and replaced them so all went well.

Something just worries me about playing any request that comes in. I only tend to do this if no one is dancing and then i make sure i get the persons name, introduce it on the mic like "Dave has requested the next song so make your way to the dance floor for Rick Astley"....

[leighinstoke]

Always crowd dependant.

[Corabar Steve]

Playing requests in the order you get them?
Dont you find it annoying when you have a dancefloor full playing one genre and you get a request for completly different tracks that you suspect that just one person wants to listen to.

Sorry, I left a bit out, that is at our Friday residency. I know most of the crowd.

[Impactdisco]

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, Steve.

When I talk about a Djs top 100, I'm referring to the 100 songs they get requested the most.

Obviously many DJs will not record this information or play from this list, but many, including myself DO.



Funnily enough, I keep a top 100 list as well, and when I send out our booking forms, I put this in as well as a start point for the guests. Sometimes they use it, sometimes they don't, but nearly always they thank me for sending it as it gives them an idea of what they want AND what they don't. Which helps them fill in the event questionnaire (especially they music they don't want at the function).

Obviously that means some people want a cheesy party and some don't.

[rob1963]

Funnily enough, I keep a top 100 list as well, and when I send out our booking forms, I put this in as well as a start point for the guests. Sometimes they use it, sometimes they don't, but nearly always they thank me for sending it as it gives them an idea of what they want AND what they don't. Which helps them fill in the event questionnaire (especially they music they don't want at the function).

Obviously that means some people want a cheesy party and some don't.

Impact...great minds think alike.

I also send out my top 100 list with my music request form, as I think it's helpful & gives clients some ideas.

They often don't bother filling in the music request form at all, but just return the top 100 list with ticks by all the songs they want...so they clearly find it useful.

This highlights the recent "doesn't everything count" thread nicely, as it's one of those extra touches that customers appreciate, although not many discos seem to do it.

I also find the list invaluable at gigs for those times when a song is running out and you get a mental block and can't think what to play next.

There may be those who think these lists are utterly pointless, but you and I know different!

:D :D :D

[Corabar Steve]

Impact...great minds think alike.
& we all know the second part of that quote too.

They often don't bother filling in the music request form at all, but just return the top 100 list with ticks by all the songs they want...so they clearly find it useful.
Either that or they just think that's all you've got to work with, so they choose from it

This highlights the recent "doesn't everything count" thread nicely, as it's one of those extra touches that customers appreciate, although not many discos seem to do it.Maybe they think their clients are intelligent enough to choose their own requests without prompting?


I also find the list invaluable at gigs for those times when a song is running out and you get a mental block and can't think what to play next.
That's as may be, but wouldn't it be better to try something different once in a while, rather than the same old same old?

[rob1963]

Either that or they just think that's all you've got to work with, so they choose from it

I'm surprised to see a flippant comment like that from someone as intelligent as you, Steve.

When a client is sent a sheet headed "Our top 100 requests. This list may assist with your music selection" I wonder how many of them would REALLY think it's your ENTIRE collection & that it's normal for a professional disco to only own 100 tracks?

Come on!


Maybe they think their clients are intelligent enough to choose their own requests without prompting?

And maybe what they think is actually WRONG...especially if the positive reaction I've had to this list is anything to go by. After all, if it didn't go down well with clients, I'd stop doing it.


That's as may be, but wouldn't it be better to try something different once in a while, rather than the same old same old?

I DO try something different once in a while, and I also get different requests from each client. However, I prefer to stick to the songs which are tried & tested and proven to work well...rather than choose different stuff, some of which will work but some which will not.

It's fine if you want to take a gamble, as long as you realise you won't always win.

[PropellerHeadCase]

I'm surprised to see a flippant comment like that from someone as intelligent as you, Steve.

When a client is sent a sheet headed "Our top 100 requests. This list may assist with your music selection" I wonder how many of them would REALLY think it's your ENTIRE collection & that it's normal for a professional disco to only own 100 tracks?

Come on!

Actually, flippancy is usually the sign of a jaded but nonetheless significant intelligence.

In NZ we had a top 500 list and we REGULARLY had people asking us if it was all we had, or offering to supply songs on CD as it wasn't on our list despite the pre-amble on the list stating that we had over 15,000 songs, IN BOLD!




And maybe what they think is actually WRONG...especially if the positive reaction I've had to this list is anything to go by. After all, if it didn't go down well with clients, I'd stop doing it.

I do actually agree with you. Song lists of any length, so long as it doesn't get stupid (several suppliers in NZ have gone too far the other way), are a great way to help clients. Clients aren't necessarily musically literate and lists with favourite songs can help avoid some of those mismatched song/artist situations that so often get posted here, AND it can make it easier for the client to select songs without having to put too much thought into it. That, though, is a blessing and a curse as sometimes clients are lazy and select songs that they recognise from a list rather than supply a list of actual favourites.



I DO try something different once in a while, and I also get different requests from each client. However, I prefer to stick to the songs which are tried & tested and proven to work well...rather than choose different stuff, some of which will work but some which will not.

It's fine if you want to take a gamble, as long as you realise you won't always win.

To be fair, Rob, you won't always win with the top 100, either.

I am in the throes of creating numerous top 10/20 lists of different genres and decades as an aid to an ocasionally less than stellar memory (and I hate the 'Oh, I should have played that! moments on the drive home... especially if it was a bad night).

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Actually, flippancy is usually the sign of a jaded but nonetheless significant intelligence.



Yay! :D

[Corabar Steve]

Maybe they think their clients are intelligent enough to choose their own requests without prompting?


And maybe what they think is actually WRONG...
So are you saying our clients are thick, or yours are?

If they've had the intelligence to book with us, I think they are more than capable to compile their own requests without outside assistance.


I'm surprised to see a flippant comment like that from someone as intelligent as you, Steve.

It wasn't a flippant comment, far from it (as Alan has proven in his post)

[Javlingames]

I have found the American DJ's are best at genre jumping, they do this by mixing the songs, because the beat is constantly flowing the audience tend to stay put, also they only play each song for a maximum of 2 minutes to keep the crowds interest. In america it appears paramount importance to have mixing skills as well as good vocal ability.

IMO genre jumping can be done if its transitioned correctly

[Shaun]

I have found the American DJ's are best at genre jumping, they do this by mixing the songs, because the beat is constantly flowing the audience tend to stay put, also they only play each song for a maximum of 2 minutes to keep the crowds interest. In america it appears paramount importance to have mixing skills as well as good vocal ability.

IMO genre jumping can be done if its transitioned correctly

That's quite a generalisation. I've many American DJ friends....some beatmix some don't. Much the same as our UK counterparts.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I have found the American DJ's are best at genre jumping, they do this by mixing the songs, because the beat is constantly flowing the audience tend to stay put, also they only play each song for a maximum of 2 minutes to keep the crowds interest. In america it appears paramount importance to have mixing skills as well as good vocal ability.

IMO genre jumping can be done if its transitioned correctly


That's quite a generalisation. I've many American DJ friends....some beatmix some don't. Much the same as our UK counterparts.

That's exactly what I was about to post....spooky. :)

[Shaun]

That's exactly what I was about to post....spooky. :)

Demented minds think alike. :p

[Javlingames]

Being part of an american DJ forum and looking at their youtube videos they just seem to be more into that style of DJing.

[Corabar Steve]

Or they just have more show offs :sj:

[Javlingames]

I prefer to swap genres but more often than not I end up in sets due to having to always play it safe. In my party set I always jump genres, not genereally through the night.

Student nights I think you can do it, well ive seen it done with my own eyes so I know it works.

[rob1963]

In NZ we had a top 500 list and we REGULARLY had people asking us if it was all we had


It wasn't a flippant comment, far from it (as Alan has proven in his post)

With all due respect, Steve, I think it WAS a flippant comment.

Alan hasn't proved anything. He was talking about a top 500 list, which is VERY different to a top 100 list.

If you asked your clients to guess how many songs you have, how many do you think would say "About 100"?

[One Vision]

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, Steve.

When I talk about a Djs top 100, I'm referring to the 100 songs they get requested the most.

Obviously many DJs will not record this information or play from this list, but many, including myself DO.

As for there being utterly no point in compiling a list of popular songs, tell that to everyone who has such a list on their website, of which there are many!

I know what your trying to say Rob :D their not your personal top 100 just basically popular tracks that tend to get played at every gig, they are just those kind of tracks that everybody knows, usually get played or requested.

[rob1963]

I know what your trying to say Rob :D their not your personal top 100 just basically popular tracks that tend to get played at every gig, they are just those kind of tracks that everybody knows, usually get played or requested.

Exactly, Karl.

If it was my PERSONAL top 100, it would be mostly funk from the early 80's, much of which wouldn't be known to a number of people here!

:)

[Corabar Steve]

With all due respect, Steve, I think it WAS a flippant comment.


With all due respect, how do you know whether I made the comment flippantly or not?

I'm telling you it was not a flippant comment, It was my point of view.



Certain people will see a list & not bother to read the "small print" (or in Alan's case bold print) & just think that is all that's on offer.

[rob1963]

With all due respect, how do you know whether I made the comment flippantly or not?

I don't, which is why I said I THINK it was a flippant comment.


Certain people will see a list & not bother to read the "small print" (or in Alan's case bold print) & just think that is all that's on offer.

Of course CERTAIN people will think that, but then again too few to mention (I feel a song coming on!).

Luckily, the clients I deal with appear to have an IQ higher than their shoe size, as I've not yet had a single person ask "Is this all the songs you have?"

:D

[Corabar Steve]

Yet :sj:

[theoloyla]

I think the list of suggestions to send to clients is a good idea.

[rob1963]

I think the list of suggestions to send to clients is a good idea.

So do I :D :D :D

[Danno13]

I've just done a new list, with every song I played last year.. which is just over 1200! Not going to link to it on my site, but just provide it to clients, or enquirers interested in what kind of range I play.

[CRAZY K]

Hi there--back from doing a lot of things I promised myself I would do --but never got round to! Its raining as well so outdoors jobs stop!

Interesting thread and one which is very relevant if im playing Disco at Weddings or Parties.

Picking up on some of the points raised I offer clients a choice from a playlist and a shorter list of popular tracks from Parties and Discos which tells the client they have more than 100 tracks to choose from--I also invite tracks not listed to be chosen--they then have all options available.

I agree generally you have to manage the play list with care--even sometimes pointing out if you think certain music just isnt going to appeal to many people and how it will be slotted in during the evening--this is one of the skills that certainly is not appreciated by the punters out there looking for an I pod Disco--

I dont think I have ever said--that will completely wipe the floor out--maybe the track just got put near the bottom of the list?

CRAZY K

[Corabar Steve]

I think the list of suggestions to send to clients is a good idea.

If they can't think for themselves. Who are we to suggest what they might or might not want played? It's their party not ours.

[rob1963]

Who are we to suggest what they might or might not want played?

I think it's called being helpful.

[CRAZY K]

I think it's called being helpful.

A memory jogger?

I think its like exams nowadays which tend to be multiple choice.

Presumably its because people find it easier to choose from possible solutions rather than trying to remember all the answers ( tunes )

CRAZY K

[PropellerHeadCase]

If people have fixed opinions about what music they want to hear they will generally either ignore the list completely (and in doing so often duplicate many of the songs with their list) or they will select some from the list, de-select others and add some requests... this latter scenario was the case for 80+% of the clients of the NZ business I worked for.

Music lists are also a marketing tool, especially if you do wedding expos/fairs as you can use them to dissuade people away from the "Peter Kaye" opinion of DJs by showing them the breadth of what you regularly play.

[Charlie Brown]

Mix it up all the time:)

Then that keeps the people who are dancing, on the floor,

and a few others who wern't so sure on the last song, come up and dance...

[rob1963]

Mix it up all the time:)

Then that keeps the people who are dancing, on the floor,

and a few others who wern't so sure on the last song, come up and dance...

Charlie, there's a lot to be said for mixing it up completely rather than playing sets, and I was chatting to another DJ about this over a mixed grill at lunchtime.

He was saying that it's best to completely mix it up, as people are fairly likely to stay on the dance floor if ONE song they don't like comes on...in the hope they will like the following song.

However, if you play small sets & start a set of a genre people don't like, by the time the second or third song comes on, they will have sat down.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

However, if you play small sets & start a set of a genre people don't like, by the time the second or third song comes on, they will have sat down.

That depends on your skill at reading the dance floor and picking the right songs.

I also helps to know when to change the genre and not play one too many.

I think that changing the genres one after another doesn't allow for any continuity on the floor and this is something that quite a few people have mentioned to me about other DJs who work this way.

[rob1963]

That depends on your skill at reading the dance floor and picking the right songs.

I also helps to know when to change the genre and not play one too many.

I think that changing the genres one after another doesn't allow for any continuity on the floor and this is something that quite a few people have mentioned to me about other DJs who work this way.

I agree with what you're saying, Darren, which is why I usually use small sets.

However, I could see where the guy was coming from when he explained why he thought it was good to completely mix it up.

[Corabar Steve]

I think it's called being helpful.

Or interfering. :sj:

[rob1963]

Or interfering. :sj:

Not at all.

[PropellerHeadCase]

It's worth remembering that there are many ways to group songs into "sets" yes, there's genre, but year of release and appearance on the same popular movie soundtrack are others. I often finish a set with a well-known fairly popular song in that genre and then follow that song with another popular song in a different style from around the same time (if it's old enough it only needs to be the same decade).

People have different reasons for liking different songs and it's not just down to genre.

[Impactdisco]

I also helps to know when to change the genre and not play one too many.



That's a problem I had when I started. I used to find that if a genre was going well, I'd push for one too many and the floor would clear.

I generally find that 3 of a kind is about right, but sometimes it isn't so black and white as that so, I've found that it comes from experience playing the right amount of tracks of one genre.

[Jaggiebunnett]

Always crowd dependant.
Lots of replys to this thread!!.
Unless the dancefloor is stoud I always encourage requests ALWAYS.. and slag those who make then to break the ice and maybe to bring it to a boil.

[cara]

I'm not too sure about a top 100 list, what if the type of music your punters where into was indie/alt, then you sent them a list with dancing queen etc. on?

with regards to sets & setlists, i like to take gambles by playing bluegrass, cha cha, anything that isn't the norm really and i've never had a complaint yet.

I'd read the crowd first and make my assumptions there & then, and i wouldn't throw it in when the dancefloor is in full swing, probably at the beginning of the night.

I'm sick of all the dancing queen, etc. type of crowd to tell you the truth, so now when i take a booking i always ask what music they're loking for and if it's r&b or something that's going to be cheesy all night, then i'll turn down the booking:

A: because i'm sick of hearing crap music or gangsta rap promoting the wrong message

B: i wouldn't feel comfortable playing it and that would show in my performance

what i find now though is, a lot of the people who are getting married now, grew up in the 90's listening to the like of pulp, blur, etc. and would prefer that style of music than your normal disco music.

maybe i'm wrong and it's just the type of enquiries we get through our website, but it's a thought.

[rob1963]

I'm not too sure about a top 100 list, what if the type of music your punters where into was indie/alt, then you sent them a list with dancing queen etc. on?

A top 100 list is simply a list of your 100 most requested songs, which doesn't mean you will play from it all the time. I always send clients a copy of this, as they often find it helpful in selecting their music for the night.

However, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter WHAT music my clients are into, as I will still play what they want.

For example, a couple of weeks ago I did a wedding for a couple that were into garage and r&b, so that's what they asked for & that's what I played.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I'm sick of all the dancing queen, etc. type of crowd to tell you the truth, so now when i take a booking i always ask what music they're loking for and if it's r&b or something that's going to be cheesy all night, then i'll turn down the booking:



And you can afford to do that?

As far as I remember you haven't been trading that long and have been on here asking for advice to get more business.

Seems a very strange thing to say. :confused:

[cara]

yup definitely, always got to play what they want

with regards to myself, i know i couldnt play music that i didn't understand, garage/r&b just goes right over my head, so i'd have to turn down the booking

[geoffrey]

I start the night off an the request’s determine where I go. I always have the unexpected ready for when the time is right. I do play small sets and try to group up requests if possible. Some times it is better to use a modern tune to take you back to the oldies and vice verse . Example - Candy man = 40’s or shake a tail feather = 60’s and say grease = 60’s, Modern to old transitions, I’m not being complicated just using tunes to my advantage.
Well it works great for me.

[cara]

And you can afford to do that?

As far as I remember you haven't been trading that long and have been on here asking for advice to get more business.

Seems a very strange thing to say. :confused:

i can't afford to do it rob, no, but if i'm not comfortable playing something then it's only going to show in my performance,

when i say cheese, i mean if the client asked for it all night, i just couldn't do it, a bit of cheese, then yes, i've got to enjoy what i do, heh heh maybe i'm in the wrong game, either that or just were ear plgs so i don't have to listen to what i'm playing

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

maybe i'm in the wrong game

Maybe you are....

Is Djing a hobby for you rather than a business?

[cara]

It's definitely not just a hobby because of the amount of work we put into setting the business up, we comply with all h&s regulations, tax & n.i. etc. so we are an 'official' business, it's just that i'm selective on the types of gigs that i do

if someone offered me £1000 to play gangsta rap & r&b all night i'd turn the gig down, but if someone offered me £250 to play indie & classic rock all night i'd jump at it.

i suppose you could say i'm not a mainstream dj

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

It's definitely not just a hobby because of the amount of work we put into setting the business up, we comply with all h&s regulations, tax & n.i. etc. so we are an 'official' business, it's just that i'm selective on the types of gigs that i do

if someone offered me £1000 to play gangsta rap & r&b all night i'd turn the gig down, but if someone offered me £250 to play indie & classic rock all night i'd jump at it.

i suppose you could say i'm not a mainstream dj

So you must specialise then?

[cara]

errrm, not really, as i said previously, a good proportion of the bookings we get are from people who are looking for something a bit different than what the other, all singing, all dancing, glowstick giving, cheese playing discos in our area offer.

we tend to get more of an indie appreciative audience, where rather than stating the music they want to hear, they tell us what they don't want to hear.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

errrm, not really, as i said previously, a good proportion of the bookings we get are from people who are looking for something a bit different than what the other, all singing, all dancing, glowstick giving, cheese playing discos in our area offer.

we tend to get more of an indie appreciative audience, where rather than stating the music they want to hear, they tell us what they don't want to hear.

So when people ring up then, if they say they want cheese, you turn them down flat?

[cara]

if i think i'm not suitable for the gig, then yes, i'll turn it down

[rob1963]

If someone want's to turn down gigs because they require playing some cheese, that's their choice.

Trouble is, by doing that they are probably reducing their market by at least 75%, which seems a bit of a strange thing to do.

:shrug:

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

If someone want's to turn down gigs because they require playing some cheese, that's their choice.

Trouble is, by doing that they are probably reducing their market by at least 75%, which seems a bit of a strange thing to do.

:shrug:

Especially considering that Cara was asking for advice in how to increase business only last August! :confused:

[rob1963]

Especially considering that Cara was asking for advice in how to increase business only last August! :confused:

There we are then, he's got his answer.....

...all he needs to do is stop turning down gigs with requests which include cheese.

My guess is he'd increase bookings by about 80%.

Problem solved!

:D

[cara]

heh heh it's not just cheese gigs, it's r&b, funky house, & kids parties

i'd be a millionaire now if i'd took on all the enquiries we'd had for these type of gigs

ahhh well, you live & learn eh?

if only i could bite my lip

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

i'd be a millionaire now if i'd took on all the enquiries we'd had for these type of gigs



You must be charging a very good rate then considering you've only been in business since last year....:p

[Jaggiebunnett]

I'm with Wallace of "Wallace & Gromit" :D :D :D :D :D

[theoloyla]

errrm, not really, as i said previously, a good proportion of the bookings we get are from people who are looking for something a bit different than what the other, all singing, all dancing, glowstick giving, cheese playing discos in our area offer.

we tend to get more of an indie appreciative audience, where rather than stating the music they want to hear, they tell us what they don't want to hear.
If you want to specialize that is fine but just like Badger does you will find that you limit yourself unless you are very good or very lucky in which case you will make a fortune. You'll know soon enough.