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rob1963
03-06-2008, 04:14 PM
After the recent noise at work law, how many of you carry ear plugs to gigs in case venue staff ask for them, and HAVE you ever been asked for them?

I've noticed you can get 10 pairs of foam ones on ebay for a couple of quid, and I'm thinking of ordering some to carry with me...just in case.

Edit: Please note this thread is NOT about the new law itself (which was discussed at length in a previous thread)...but simply about whether you carry ear plugs & if you've ever been asked for them.

Vectis
03-06-2008, 04:17 PM
If the venue staff don't work for you, you're not obliged to provide them with anything :confused:

We did the 'earplugs' debate a little while ago and I do use the noise-reduction type. If you want to go the disposables route I suggest shopping around. Mrs VV wears them for sleep and last time I bought any I paid £30 for 500 pairs from one of the online safety shops whose name escapes me.

Shaun
03-06-2008, 04:20 PM
I don't think I'll ever be asked for them, as we are working for the client in most cases and not the hotel. The hotel need only need to worry about those in their employment.

That said though, I carry 3 sets of musicians ear plugs with me. One for me, one for the roadie, and one spare pair. I never wear mines, but I make sure my roadie has a pair at every gig.

Tom
03-06-2008, 04:21 PM
I take loads with me but also I make my roadie wear them. I don't as I have my headphones on all night. But I do need to buy another pair soon as my one's are broken. Which brand shall I go for....:rolleyes: ;) :D

rob1963
03-06-2008, 04:21 PM
If the venue staff don't work for you, you're not obliged to provide them with anything :confused:

We did the 'earplugs' debate a little while ago and I do use the noise-reduction type. If you want to go the disposables route I suggest shopping around. Mrs VV wears them for sleep and last time I bought any I paid £30 for 500 pairs from one of the online safety shops whose name escapes me.

Vectis,

I was thinking about when you get a jobsworth who doesn't understand the law properly.

I had lunch with a fellow DJ today, and he told me about sign at a venue about this with the heading "Are you an entertainer?"

It might be worth having some ear plugs if they only cost a couple of quid & it shuts up the jobsworths!

Shaun
03-06-2008, 04:28 PM
Vectis,

I was thinking about when you get a jobsworth who doesn't understand the law properly.

I had lunch with a fellow DJ today, and he told me about sign at a venue about this!

It might be worth having some if they only cost a couple of quid & it shuts up the jobsworths!

I'd just inform the jobsworth that I'm working within the H&S guidelines for my business, an advise them to check their facts as they are mistaken. What I wouldn't do is go out and spend money on something I don't need to appease some jobsworth that doesn't know what they're talking about.

You have some strange ideas at time Mr James. :d

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-06-2008, 04:51 PM
I was thinking about when you get a jobsworth who doesn't understand the law properly.



Such as yourself....?:D

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-06-2008, 04:52 PM
I take loads with me but also I make my roadie wear them. I don't as I have my headphones on all night. But I do need to buy another pair soon as my one's are broken. Which brand shall I go for....:rolleyes: ;) :D

Why would you wear headphones all night Tom? And even if you did, they'd need to have noise cancelling on them. What do you use?

rob1963
03-06-2008, 05:00 PM
You have some strange ideas at time Mr James. :d

Only at times? :rolleyes:

I just thought a couple of quid to avoid an argument at a venue might be worth it.


Such as yourself....?:D

Indeed...and if us DJs don't properly understand the new laws, what chance have venue staff got?

:D

Tom
03-06-2008, 05:04 PM
Why would you wear headphones all night Tom? And even if you did, they'd need to have noise cancelling on them. What do you use?

I use these Link (http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProduct.action?product=MDR-V150&site=odw_en_GB&imageType=Main&category=HDH+DJ+%26+Studio+Monitoring#pageType=Tec hnicalSpecs). They are nothing special but they do the job and have a really nice clear sound aswell. Very well balanced

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-06-2008, 05:18 PM
I use these Link (http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProduct.action?product=MDR-V150&site=odw_en_GB&imageType=Main&category=HDH+DJ+%26+Studio+Monitoring#pageType=Tec hnicalSpecs). They are nothing special but they do the job and have a really nice clear sound aswell. Very well balanced

But they don't have noise cancelling, so won't protect your ears, therefore it is pointless wearing them all night!

One Vision
03-06-2008, 05:23 PM
After the recent noise at work law, how many of you carry ear plugs to gigs in case venue staff ask for them, and HAVE you ever been asked for them?

I've noticed you can get 10 pairs of foam ones on ebay for a couple of quid, and I'm thinking of ordering some to carry with me...just in case.

Edit: Please note this thread is NOT about the new law itself (which was discussed at length in a previous thread)...but simply about whether you carry ear plugs & if you've ever been asked for them.

HEY; is this actually a law yet?
I get paid to go and play loud music that's it, if they don't wish to listen to loud music they should consider a different job or see their boss for protection.
At the end of the day we insure our selves and get all our gear tested for safety so are already doing our bit to protect the venue and the public as far as we are responsible :shrug:

rob1963
03-06-2008, 05:30 PM
HEY; is this actually a law yet?

I believe so, Karl.

Check the following thread for more info: http://www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=11672&highlight=noise+work

yourdj
03-06-2008, 05:35 PM
I cover my ear with my hand if i ever walk past any speaker (loud or not) if out or at a party. Good habit and it definitely helps.

I do look a bit stupid though

One Vision
03-06-2008, 05:41 PM
No doubt its been asked already but how do I know if I'm over 85 db?
No doubt there is a very expensive gadget already available just for this job?

djsteve10
03-06-2008, 05:45 PM
I always carry my professional ones that i had custom made that only cancel out the bad frequencies and keep the sound nice and clear so you can still hear what your doing.
I've never been asked to provide them to a venue as they don't work for me and as an employed by the venue all employers are responsible to provide PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) That is suitable for the job that is being performed to all employees.

My Ear plugs cost me the best part of £80 but they are not the cheap foam ones you can get off ebay what just muffle the sound. I wear the ear plugs in the nightclub when i am not mixing also what i stated in the other thread that rob is posting about.

robbiedj
03-06-2008, 05:51 PM
No doubt its been asked already but how do I know if I'm over 85 db?
No doubt there is a very expensive gadget already available just for this job?

Doesn't have to be very expensive.

These start at £7.95. Link (http://www.ravencourt.com/raven-products.asp?productSUB=Sound%20and%20Light)

Solitaire Events Ltd
03-06-2008, 05:57 PM
No doubt its been asked already but how do I know if I'm over 85 db?
No doubt there is a very expensive gadget already available just for this job?

You don't have to know really. This is to protect employees that work in venues with loud music.

Having said that I bought a sound metre on Ebay about a mnoth ago for about £40.

Sam
03-06-2008, 06:05 PM
After the recent noise at work law, how many of you carry ear plugs to gigs in case venue staff ask for them, and HAVE you ever been asked for them?

I've noticed you can get 10 pairs of foam ones on ebay for a couple of quid, and I'm thinking of ordering some to carry with me...just in case.

Edit: Please note this thread is NOT about the new law itself (which was discussed at length in a previous thread)...but simply about whether you carry ear plugs & if you've ever been asked for them.


I Don't.
I need to get myself some though. Been thinking about ones that get specially moulded? If you know what I mean.

My class 1 pilot medical showed that my left ears very top end frequency response was not as good as it should be.

Andy Westcott
03-06-2008, 06:32 PM
I take ear protection for myself and anyone accompanying me.

I have never been asked for ear plugs from venue staff, and wouldn't give them any if I had some spare - it's not my responsibility.

But then, I don't run stupidly high sound levels anyhow unless appropriate and OK'd by the client.

PropellerHeadCase
03-06-2008, 09:52 PM
I have (had, I think I left them in NZ) flat response musician's ear-plugs (they reduce the volume equally across the audio spectrum) supplied by a friendly audiologist. Tried DJing with them and even the 10dB ones cut too much (use them for lawn-mowing now), so investigated noise-cancelling headphones and speaker design/placement. Really good speakers aren't that loud when you're standing behind them (except subs and it's very unusual to have hearing issues at even as low as 100Hz).

Have not yet encountered a venue where the placement of my speakers would necessitate deafening a barman (and I don't tend to play that loud anyway).