Violence or trouble...

[Shaun]

Violence or trouble...aimed towards you at gigs. Ever encountered it?.


Instances have been very far and few between for me. In the early days I was knocked unconscious by a flying metal chair for not playing a request. More recently a riot broke out at the end of a party I was doing. Pint glasses were being thrown all over the car-park narrowly missing my van. I got in the van parked it around the corner out of harms way till the police arrived. A few of the morons tried to hang off the back of van as I pulled away. They didn't hang on for too long as I put the foot down. It had been a great gig up to that point. :/

Ever had any trouble at your events?

[501damian501]

i did a 40th last year and got coverd in sprayable cream by a very drunken woman, because i wouldnt carry on lol, so i took the can off her and sprayed it all down her top, 2 wrongs dont make a right but oh well eh, oh yeah also if you feel threaten just tell the landlord (s) of the joint your gigging at that you feel unsafe and make it clear on your terms and conditions if any fighting brakes out you will begin to pack up and leave, or just change the atmosphere, turn off a couple of lights ect and play some rock and roll, damo

[Penfold42]

Not had any.....touch wood! :)

Been called a few names and got a speaker soaked with wine because i didn't play a track.....well she was rude...:mad:

Really bugs me, manners don't cost anything....:)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Never had any trouble myself at any private function but when I was doing club work I had the odd bit of bother. Once I DJ'd and wore my West Ham top. A guy came up out of nowhere and shouted some abuse at me and then tried to lump me one. It was a bad idea as the doormen soon 'escorted' him out in the nicest possible way.

[djgordyp]

turn off a couple of lights ect and play some rock and roll, damo

:confused: :confused:
I can just see it now. Fists are flying everywhere, you stick on rock round the clock and they all suddenly start jiving.:D :D :D
I remember hearing stories of fighting breaking out in cinemas after films that had rock and roll in them.

[DJWilson]

Never had any trouble myself at any private function but when I was doing club work I had the odd bit of bother. Once I DJ'd and wore my West Ham top. A guy came up out of nowhere and shouted some abuse at me and then tried to lump me one. It was a bad idea as the doormen soon 'escorted' him out in the nicest possible way.


We properly beat his team that day :p

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I've had loads of threats over the years, especially when I was younger. Not so much these days though.

[robbiedj]

If it looks like kicking off, I switch music to something soothing, like Take It Easy and some Carpenters or similar. then go find whoever is in charge and tell them.

As I worked as a bouncer in places like Tottenham Royal, I can usually spot it before it actually starts.

[rob1963]

A few years ago I had some drunk Scot start threatening me at the end of a gig, but his other half came in & took him home before I'd even worked out what his problem was.

Apart from that, I used to do a lot of work at a pub in Putney where they often had fights breaking out, but it was soon taken outside thanks to a number of very efficient doormen.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

A few years ago I had some drunk Scot start threatening me at the end of a gig, but his other half came in & took him home before I'd even worked out what his problem was.



Shaun, you never said you've been to Worcester Park? :p

[rob1963]

A few years ago I had some drunk Scot start threatening me at the end of a gig, but his other half came in & took him home before I'd even worked out what his problem was.


Shaun, you never said you've been to Worcester Park? :p

:Laugh:

[theoloyla]

I've had a few threats made against me over the years but not so much nowadays. In commercial premises the security or management can deal with it although I can usually manage to handle it myself; however, the IRA did bomb me once!

[Shaun]

A few years ago I had some drunk Scot start threatening me at the end of a gig, but his other half came in & took him home before I'd even worked out what his problem was.




Shaun, you never said you've been to Worcester Park? :p

I couldn't help myself. The DJ kept rolling his eyes sarcastically at me. :ph34r:

[rob1963]

I couldn't help myself. The DJ kept rolling his eyes sarcastically at me. :ph34r:

:rolleyes: :Laugh:

[nigelwright7557]

Violence or trouble...aimed towards you at gigs. Ever encountered it?.


Instances have been very far and few between for me. In the early days I was knocked unconscious by a flying metal chair for not playing a request. More recently a riot broke out at the end of a party I was doing. Pint glasses were being thrown all over the car-park narrowly missing my van. I got in the van parked it around the corner out of harms way till the police arrived. A few of the morons tried to hang off the back of van as I pulled away. They didn't hang on for too long as I put the foot down. It had been a great gig up to that point. :/

Ever had any trouble at your events?

I was silly enough to play the can can at a crowded pub.
Someone kicked a bit high and knocked someones drink over.
A fight started then everyone joined in, just like a wild west saloon brawl !

Luckily I was upstairs on a balcony out of the way.

[leighinstoke]

Played my sister in law's father's 2nd wedding and it was an 'ok' night - not brill due to some family tensions.

Ended the night as they were big Stoke City fans with the request of Tom Jones's "Delilah" - and got all of the crowd singing as her Dad and family love Stoke.

All was fine until I was packing up and saw some 'ructions' at the back of the hall. Carried on packing away and saw my brother, who looks the spits of me, getting hassle from some guy. I went to find out what the trouble was.

"You didn't play the Vale song." (As in Port Vale). I replied that I didn't know they had a song, that Delilah was requested by the groom, and if he'd have asked me to play 'the Vale song', I would have done.

No - this bloke would not have it. Has it happens, I was still on the stage, he was on the dancefloor and he had hold of my hand and eventually Ade, my brother, was holding me on the stage as this bloke was slowly trying to pull me onto the dancefloor.

On and on it went.... you didn't play it.... I didn't get asked. The steward for the venue came over and tried to calm things. He actually offered to 're-arrange my face' (all over a song!) and was eventually told to leave and dragged from the place.

Things calmed down but there will still tensions, etc, as the folks he'd turned up with - none of them invited by the way - were also causing trouble, getting the bride and grooms back up.

Brother and I just carried on packing up, carrying stuff out to the van, when I got a police torch shone in my face and asked "can you just close your van and go inside and close the door". Well, no arguing - just did it.

It transpired that the Vale fan had been reported to the police for his actions and the local nick were looking for him - and he was foolish to hide outside waiting for the groom to also settle some score - so we had 6 police cars, dog van, etc, who took the muppet off - and also some mate who started kicking off - and eventually they took two women away who were mouthing off to the police about it all.

Lesson learnt - don't ever play Delilah.

Leigh.....

(PS - eventually I found out the 'Vale song' was "I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles", which I find odd, as I used to attend their matches in the early 1990s and never heard it sung once!)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I thought 'Bubbles' was the West Ham song!

[leighinstoke]

I thought 'Bubbles' was the West Ham song!

It's one of those songs that various teams seem to have adopted. The fact I'd never heard it on the terraces when I used to support them on a regular basis. Also a mate of mine, Bernard, who's been an ardent fan man and boy, also couldn't tell me what the teams 'song' was said a lot.

:bang:

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

I must admit this must be the worst part of the job! I've seen my fair share of violence in my time.

Many fights and arguments but many i have managed to keep out of:).

My worst one was earlier this year when this really drunk bloke came over to me and ordered me to give him the microphone. i said I'm sorry but i can't right now but if you want to make a speech you can do later. but he persisted "give me the microphone now." so i politely told him i can't do that before he raised his pint glass above my CD Player, Mixer, Amp, Lighting Controller and main power source and said if you don't let me talk I'll ruin all your equipment and electrocute you! just as he started to tip his glass a friend came over, pulled him away and gave him another pint (like that's gonna help him)!

Lucky he was so drunk he forgot about me a went back with everyone else. the venue it happened in i was a fair way from the bar and door so getting someone wasn't an option and i didn't know what to do. i remember after the party the were plenty of fights (most outside) and the police was called in the end after some kid, bashed another's head in.

The worst thing is I'm back in the same venue Friday and Saturday this weekend and they are both 21st birthdays:eek: :eek: :eek:

Other violent gigs has included a bloke cutting through my rope light with a large knife (i know there bad but that's ab it extreme) and i riot where a poor bloke got trampled on by about 100 or so party goers.

alot of teenagers turn into complete animals when they get some drink down them it's really is discracefull! If you can't handle it for god sake DON'T DRINK!!!

[PropellerHeadCase]

alot of teenagers turn into complete animals when they get some drink down them it's really is discracefull! If you can't handle it for god sake DON'T DRINK!!!

Trouble is, of course, that by the time you're not handling it you're also in no state to make rational decisions... bit of a catch 22, that.

Being six foot and reasonably broad across the shoulders I've never had any threats levelled at me, just typical drunken stupidity near me rather than at me.

I did once DJ a wedding were one guy got laid out in the Men's - the other took off across the golf course... several officers and a helicopter in attendance and then the two matriarchs of the two families involved (both well into their 50s) got all mouthy to each other (and the cops) and were escorted out, too. I'l never forget the excuse one of them gave, "I'm sorry, I'm South American... hot-blooded, you know, it's how we are." :rolleyes:

[Tony Scott]

Only had trouble at 2 gigs, one was back in about 1983, I was helping out my cousin doing a gig for 'The St George Elite' scooter club, northern soul night.

A rival gang turned up and the result was £20'000 of damage to a ballroom in Harrow-on-the-Hill, can't remember the name of the place but there were chandaliers ripped down and lots of windows broken, amazingly the only kit that was damaged was a Tutor2 projector...

...the other one was when I stupidly took a booking for a Travellers(Pikey) Christening, I must have been threatened at least 10 times for not playing one thing or another, I think they were winding me up but they were very convincing!!
The boss man came up at the end gave me £100 on top for all the trouble, said his 'Boys' liked a bit of sport! :)

Being 6'1" tall and 230lbs I don't normally get much grief from anybody as a rule......which is good coz fighting nearly always hurts no matter how big you are! :D

[axeman]

Ive had a couple of early night due to functions getting out of hand, and once i saw a bridesmaid in full flowwing gowns etc, run accross the dancefloor and stick a nut on the brides father. - cue riot.

The worst thing i've ever encountered was in a busy pub residency i once had, where a guy got stamped on, the police came and he was taken away in an ambulance, a couple of days later the police came to my house and questioned me as a witness, and told my the guy had died !!! i was in shock for a week.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

The worst thing i've ever encountered was in a busy pub residency i once had, where a guy got stamped on, the police came and he was taken away in an ambulance, a couple of days later the police came to my house and questioned me as a witness, and told my the guy had died !!! i was in shock for a week.

OMG that most have been terrible. Bet you will never forget that for the rest of your life. Just goes to show how alcohol can turn people into complete animals!!!

Maybe they should ban it!

[Javlingames]

A few years back in a pub residency, very small pub and very busy. 2 guys started going at it right next to me, one guy was clearly winning, every time he punched his opponent i got splattered with blood, the guys face was just claret, he came behind me for protection!! he eventually stumbled back in front of me and was given one last punch, splatter, more blood. I wnt to collect my gear next morning, there was blood on the walls, on my decks and even my record boxes. Not nice, it turns out the guy kept touching his sister, so he warned him once, then twice and then kicked his head in for not listening.

[theoloyla]

Violence is not the answer.

[DazzyD]

Ive had a couple of early night due to functions getting out of hand, and once i saw a bridesmaid in full flowwing gowns etc, run accross the dancefloor and stick a nut on the brides father. - cue riot.

The worst thing i've ever encountered was in a busy pub residency i once had, where a guy got stamped on, the police came and he was taken away in an ambulance, a couple of days later the police came to my house and questioned me as a witness, and told my the guy had died !!! i was in shock for a week.

This wasn't in Wallsend was it Bri? Used to go a residency there and one night this lad came in and two others jumped up and floored him. Then they started kicking his head off the wall like a football. They carried him outside and he was limp. I thought "That's him finished!". The week after, I asked the barmaid if the lad was alright. That was the last gig there - never got asked back. Mind you, I found out the the DJ there before witnessed a fight were a punter got stabbed with a snapped pool cue. He was called a witness to court and he never went back either.

[Penfold42]

After reading the last few post's that's cheered me up no end...!!

[Tony Scott]

.............it turns out the guy kept touching his sister, so he warned him once, then twice and then kicked his head in for not listening..........

........
Violence is not the answer.

No it's not but when your tanked up perving all over someones sister and won't listen to warnings then it's very likely to happen! :(

[robbiedj]

...the other one was when I stupidly took a booking for a Travellers(Pikey) Christening, I must have been threatened at least 10 times for not playing one thing or another, I think they were winding me up but they were very convincing!!
The boss man came up at the end gave me £100 on top for all the trouble, said his 'Boys' liked a bit of sport! :)

Being 6'1" tall and 230lbs I don't normally get much grief from anybody as a rule......which is good coz fighting nearly always hurts no matter how big you are! :D

Having had experience of Travellers' parties (so much so that I tend to avoid them like the plague) I'm surprised you had the menfolk in the same room. Usually they are elsrwhere while you entertain the women and youngsters.

I once did an engagement party (agent "forgot" to mention it was travellers :bang: where the police stopped me at 11 as they had decided not to pay the bar bill and the landlady called 999.

They then had the nerve to ask me to do the wedding, which my irish music supplier had already warned me about. I agreed ............... provided they paid me £3000 and said I would return £2500 the day after if my gear and our persons were undamaged. They declined the offer. I heard after that Hounslow Town Hall took a long time to recover from the function. :eek:

[axeman]

This wasn't in Wallsend was it Bri?

no it was in Sunderland,

there's a story in todays sun newspaper, about a Sunderland bride and groom getting beat up off their caterer (ex-boxer) on the morning of their wedding, i promise sunderland is normally very nice...lol

[DazzyD]

I often do the Catholic Club on the edge of Hendon and it's an area with a bad reputation. Never had any problems there though.

Once did a Halloween party at the Colonel Prior and that turned in to a big riot started off by a drunken ex Sunderland football player called Kieron (not giving the surname, though!). It spilled over in to the car park and the police were called. I was hoping for a decent bedtime that night but the police told us not to leave the pub until the trouble was over. Got home about an hour later than hoped for! :(

[theoloyla]

A few years ago The Kings Hall in Herne Bay (big Winter Gardens style cliffside council owned venue) hosted a wedding reception for a travelling family. They ended up setting fire to the place and it was closed for several months as a result. Fortunately I wasnt working there that night.

[Boogie Boy]

Personally, I see people who cause fights at social functions as some of the worst felons in society. They should make 'em do at least 500 hours community service (or at least 20 hours for each person's night that they ruin), preferably doing something that would educate them in the error of their ways and make 'em think twice about engaging in such anti-social behaviour, which is a total affront to all who have to witness it.

[theoloyla]

Personally, I see people who cause fights at social functions as some of the worst felons in society. They should make 'em do at least 500 hours community service (or at least 20 hours for each person's night that they ruin), preferably doing something that would educate them in the error of their ways and make 'em think twice about engaging in such anti-social behaviour, which is a total affront to all who have to witness it.
Agreed - but cant see it happening anytime soon.

[Tony Scott]

Personally, I see people who cause fights at social functions as some of the worst felons in society. They should make 'em do at least 500 hours community service (or at least 20 hours for each person's night that they ruin), preferably doing something that would educate them in the error of their ways and make 'em think twice about engaging in such anti-social behaviour, which is a total affront to all who have to witness it.


Agreed - but cant see it happening anytime soon.

Nah, just give them a good beating...............:D

[Excalibur]

Personally, I see people who cause fights at social functions as some of the worst felons in society. They should make 'em do at least 500 hours community service (or at least 20 hours for each person's night that they ruin), preferably doing something that would educate them in the error of their ways and make 'em think twice about engaging in such anti-social behaviour, which is a total affront to all who have to witness it.

I agree with the main thrust of that argument. I differ on details, but not much.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Just want to bring back this subject briefly for an update.

I did 2 21st b'days over the weekend both in the same "rough"ish venue/area and have seen alot of violence in there in the past.

Friday night:

4 fights broke out and the show had to be stopped once due to the (heavy handed) removal of unwanted guests from the venue. luckily we were unaffected by these (this time)

Saturday night:

No problems at all. all went well.

Just goes to show that not all 18/21st have to include violence or rude drunks.

[nigelwright7557]

Just want to bring back this subject briefly for an update.

I did 2 21st b'days over the weekend both in the same "rough"ish venue/area and have seen alot of violence in there in the past.

Friday night:

4 fights broke out and the show had to be stopped once due to the (heavy handed) removal of unwanted guests from the venue. luckily we were unaffected by these (this time)

Saturday night:

No problems at all. all went well.

Just goes to show that not all 18/21st have to include violence or rude drunks.

I live a few miles from the Scottish border and they say that in Scotland there are twice as many murders and suicides as in England.
So I charge quite a bit more for playing in Scotland !

When I get called a sasanach and told to play a song, I play it and then say thank you for your request Sir......

[flatliners]

Never had any trouble myself at any private function but when I was doing club work I had the odd bit of bother. Once I DJ'd and wore my West Ham top. A guy came up out of nowhere and shouted some abuse at me and then tried to lump me one. It was a bad idea as the doormen soon 'escorted' him out in the nicest possible way.

wearing a west ham top is enough to cause a riot

[nigelwright7557]

wearing a west ham top is enough to cause a riot

Playing "You'll never walk alone" goes down a treat to at none Liverpool venues !

[DeckstarDeluxe]

wearing a west ham top is enough to cause a riot

Sorry but i cant belive someone would be so silly as to wear a football top when djing at a club venue. Not only is it likely to cause trouble but it looks highly unprofessional

[Danieleastwood.com]

Anyone noticed that Football is quite a major contributor to the fights that break out.

The last major issue I had was because the Best Man wanted me to play 'you'll bever walk alone'. He thought it'd be funny, but the complete swearing removed that threatened me didn't.

If you ask me, Football is the devils creation.

[rob1963]

Anyone noticed that Football is quite a major contributor to the fights that break out.

The last major issue I had was because the Best Man wanted me to play 'you'll bever walk alone'. He thought it'd be funny, but the complete ****'s that threatened me didn't.

If you ask me, Football is the devils creation.

I agree.

If I had my way, all football would be banned...although that probably wouldn't go down too well!

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I agree.

If I had my way, all football would be banned...although that probably wouldn't go down too well!

And the nations children would get fatter and fatter and have virtually no exercise.

It does annoy me when people post ridiculous things like that, having no grasp of the grass roots game and just basing it on a few thugs who want to fight and a few prima donna players.

The game is bigger than that. It promotes a healthy lifestyle, exercise, fitness, discipline and the ability to be a team player.

I manage a team in a deprived area. What do you think they would be doing if all football was banned?

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Deckstar - Not sure what it is with you 'mate' but on more than one occasion over the past few weeks you have, in one shape or form (and I can't be bothered to look for examples), slated me or made snidey comments.

There is another thread somewhere where I went into detail about that particular incident but for your information and so that you understand and know the background, I'll tell you again.

It was a regular Alternative night that I was doing and one that I was promoting myself. In other words, the venue was mine to do as I wanted with on this particular night (and every week). The unfortunate thing was that it was free entry because it was a town centre venue. All of the kit was in house kit. I can't remember exactly why I wore the football top and can only think that it was when the cup final against Liverpool was on. At the end of the day, that doesn't matter.

It was an Alternative night...blimey! It wasn't a private function or anything like that and I wore what I wanted to wear. I've worn t-shirts there in the past with explicit quotes on them and not had any trouble at all. I like my football but I don't get the time to go and see my team play. Unfortunately, there are some football fans out there that take it upon themselves to tell you exactly what they think of your team if it isn't the same as theirs and I think it's pathetic. I should be able to wear what I want and feel comfortable.

Anyway, if it had been a private function then of course I would never wear anything other than smart attire and I would probably agree with you but on this occasion I don't...far from it and I find your little digs every now and then really bloody irritating to be honest. Even in this instance it wasn't unprofessional, not in my eyes because of the venue I was in. I don't expect you to understand it because you wasn't there and don't know the scene in my area.

Thanks

[Danieleastwood.com]

Solitaire, I hear what you're saying and totally agree.

Thugs and violence connected to the major games are also such a prolem, And I think that the big clubs need to start tackling the issue. It's difficult, but perhaps a team will be penalised/lose points when the fans are causin havoc. Perhaps thats a crap idea.

Unfortunately, no one has come up with the magic formula that will stop the few spoiling it for the masses!

I have upmost respect for your involvment with the kids football.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Deckstar - Not sure what it is with you 'mate' but on more than one occasion over the past few weeks you have, in one shape or form (and I can't be bothered to look for examples), slated me or made snidey comments.

There is another thread somewhere where I went into detail about that particular incident but for your information and so that you understand and know the background, I'll tell you again.

It was a regular Alternative night that I was doing and one that I was promoting myself. In other words, the venue was mine to do as I wanted with on this particular night (and every week). The unfortunate thing was that it was free entry because it was a town centre venue. All of the kit was in house kit. I can't remember exactly why I wore the football top and can only think that it was when the cup final against Liverpool was on. At the end of the day, that doesn't matter.

It was an Alternative night...blimey! It wasn't a private function or anything like that and I wore what I wanted to wear. I've worn t-shirts there in the past with explicit quotes on them and not had any trouble at all. I like my football but I don't get the time to go and see my team play. Unfortunately, there are some football fans out there that take it upon themselves to tell you exactly what they think of your team if it isn't the same as theirs and I think it's pathetic. I should be able to wear what I want and feel comfortable.

Anyway, if it had been a private function then of course I would never wear anything other than smart attire and I would probably agree with you but on this occasion I don't...far from it and I find your little digs every now and then really bloody irritating to be honest. Even in this instance it wasn't unprofessional, not in my eyes because of the venue I was in. I don't expect you to understand it because you wasn't there and don't know the scene in my area.

Thanks


Im a big liverpool fan but i would never dream of wearing it at any sort of function unless i was doing the liverpools christmas party! Its nothing personal i just see things different from yourself but I do think your asking for trouble if your wearing a football shirt while djing in a club because you always get idiots that will take issue with it. After all how many punters do you see in a club wearing any sort of sporting jersey or kit unless its a students theme night?


And the nations children would get fatter and fatter and have virtually no exercise.

It does annoy me when people post ridiculous things like that, having no grasp of the grass roots game and just basing it on a few thugs who want to fight and a few prima donna players.

The game is bigger than that. It promotes a healthy lifestyle, exercise, fitness, discipline and the ability to be a team player.

I manage a team in a deprived area. What do you think they would be doing if all football was banned?

Couldnt argee more!

[Excalibur]

And the nations children would get fatter and fatter and have virtually no exercise.

It does annoy me when people post ridiculous things like that, having no grasp of the grass roots game and just basing it on a few thugs who want to fight and a few prima donna players.

The game is bigger than that. It promotes a healthy lifestyle, exercise, fitness, discipline and the ability to be a team player.

I manage a team in a deprived area. What do you think they would be doing if all football was banned?
I know exactly what you're saying, and agree totally about the grass roots bit. My son had some great times playing playing for our local team when he was young, but the thing that sits ill with me is the excesses of the mega rich teams and their players. Half a million pounds a week for that Poopoo youth? That's plain silly. ( That's the sanitised description. ;) )

[theoloyla]

At an amateur game locally the linesman got hospitalized by the father of one of the child players.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

At an amateur game locally the linesman got hospitalized by the father of one of the child players.

Yes, but these instances are few and far between at that level.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Deckstar - Let's agree to disagree shall we. You mentioned the word 'Student' and hit the nail on the head there. They made/make up a good 80% of the people that go to the Alternative Nights I do....and yes, some wear football tops too. I wore it just the once and haven't done since and you could say I learnt my lesson but no way was I being unprofessional just because I had a football top on in a club that I was DJing in that was frequented by Punks, Skinheads, Indie Kids, Rockers etc... It was a townie casual guy on his own that came in to what he would probably call 'unknown territory'.

You have to know the situation.... I'm on first name terms with 99% of the punters because they are regulars so I felt comfortable for most of the night. Of course I got remarks about it at the time but all good mannered and humurous at the time apart from the guy who took offence, who...as I said, slipped through the 'net and got into the venue.

[rob1963]

If I had my way, all football would be banned...although that probably wouldn't go down too well!


And the nations children would get fatter and fatter and have virtually no exercise.

It does annoy me when people post ridiculous things like that, having no grasp of the grass roots game and just basing it on a few thugs who want to fight and a few prima donna players.

The game is bigger than that. It promotes a healthy lifestyle, exercise, fitness, discipline and the ability to be a team player.

I manage a team in a deprived area. What do you think they would be doing if all football was banned?

Darren,

I hardly expected someone who enjoys football & manages a team to agree with me! I was merely saying what I honestly thought.

I only have a couple of problems with football: the yobbishness & violence associated with so many of its so-called fans (your description of "a few thugs" must be the under-estimation of the year!), and also the obscene amounts of money swilling around in the game these days.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Shaker, fair game for wearing your colours. Ive been working in the pub on a bank holiday sunday and just got back from a rugby tour and still had the tour shirt on. Its not a big deal with most folk but there was one group of lads who didnt like Union, and tried to cause problems.

Deckstar, have you ever worked in a pub/club? You can easily get away with jeans and t-shirt. When i first got a gig in a club i wore black pants and a shirt (no tie) and was told i was over dressed, and it gets bloody hot.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Shaker, fair game for wearing your colours. Ive been working in the pub on a bank holiday sunday and just got back from a rugby tour and still had the tour shirt on. Its not a big deal with most folk but there was one group of lads who didnt like Union, and tried to cause problems.

Deckstar, have you ever worked in a pub/club? You can easily get away with jeans and t-shirt. When i first got a gig in a club i wore black pants and a shirt (no tie) and was told i was over dressed, and it gets bloody hot.

jeans and t-shirt is just slighty different to wearing a football shirt!!!:bang:

[nigelwright7557]

jeans and t-shirt is just slighty different to wearing a football shirt!!!:bang:

It wasnt the football shirt that caused the trouble, it was the stockings and suspender belt ! :D

[Kernow]

Role Models are whats needed.

Just look at Stevie Gerrard and his (allegedly) close relationship and exemplary conduct toward DJ's ?? ;)

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I only have a couple of problems with football: the yobbishness & violence associated with so many of its so-called fans (your description of "a few thugs" must be the under-estimation of the year!)

No it isn't.

Work out how many people go and watch football and how many are involved with any kind of trouble. Hardly any these days I can assure you.

You don't follow or like football, so how can you make these assumptions?

[Javlingames]

I have to say that the money footballers earn doesnt really bother me, good luck to them, if you can earn £100,000 a week would you turn it down? Some people would say the same about DJ'ing.

The violence, intimidation and attitude at gigs is something that gets me down about gigs. I ve not had too many problems myself apart from the usual verbal but im pretty good at defusing situations, my father was an alcoholic so i learnt from a young age how to handle drunk people and what not to say in order to not press the wrong buttons. I do think that ALL venues should have a duty of care to its staff, dj's and customers and should have doorstaff for each and every function.

[soundtracker]

Darren,

I hardly expected someone who enjoys football & manages a team to agree with me! I was merely saying what I honestly thought.

I only have a couple of problems with football: the yobbishness & violence associated with so many of its so-called fans (your description of "a few thugs" must be the under-estimation of the year!),


No it isn't.

Work out how many people go and watch football and how many are involved with any kind of trouble. Hardly any these days I can assure you.




2007 Statistics from the Home Office - Total attendance at football matches involving English and Welsh clubs and international teams increased by 5% to more than 38.6 million.
With just 3,788 arrests, this represents just 0.01% of spectators.

If you do not believe these figures, please e-mail Jackie Smith - don't shoot the messenger!

[rob1963]

With just 3,788 arrests, this represents just 0.01% of spectators.

I wonder how that percentage compares to arrests of spectators in OTHER sports...such as Cricket, Golf, Tennis, Horse racing, Motor racing etc?

[Kernow]

2007 Statistics from the Home Office - Total attendance at football matches involving English and Welsh clubs and international teams increased by 5% to more than 38.6 million.
With just 3,788 arrests, this represents just 0.01% of spectators.

If you do not believe these figures, please e-mail Jackie Smith - don't shoot the messenger!

But that's actually at matches !, surely we are much more concerned with behaviour after games and away from the stadia. Although I would never suggest that more than a small proportion of street arrests and instant penalties relate to soccer, some inevitably will , and should be factored in.
This Government already has somewhat of a reputation for massaging figures & statistics, as indeed most do.

The sad fact is that many will use football as an excuse for their actions when they are anything but supporters of the beautiful game.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Deckstar - Sorry, but I think your comment that Jeans and a T-shirt are different to a football top is off the mark. You obviously live in your own little world where you think everyone is perfect how you see it.

Jeans and a T-shirt can look smart too but I wouldn't wear them to someone's wedding or any other private function. Nor would I wear a football top.

[soundtracker]

But that's actually at matches !, surely we are much more concerned with behaviour after games and away from the stadia. Although I would never suggest that more than a small proportion of street arrests and instant penalties relate to soccer, some inevitably will , and should be factored in.
This Government already has somewhat of a reputation for massaging figures & statistics, as indeed most do.

The sad fact is that many will use football as an excuse for their actions when they are anything but supporters of the beautiful game.

I knew this would happen - the figures are for in and around stadia, No other figures are available. Is a fight in a pub, caused by football, Alcohol, or someone just looking for a fight - no way of knowing.

[DJ Frankie]

Im not a big football fan, but it does annoy me when we are limited to certain songs because some footie fans decide to have it as there chant.

[Kernow]

We're actually agreeing :) I don't question the figures you quote as unrepresentative.

It is just that there are some people who will use the slightest excuse to start trouble and football & it's allegiances is a fairly convenient one.
There have been cases of serious assault for such trivial reasons as 'having blue eyes' or 'wearing silver jewellery'.

Gary (Shakermaker) has admitted to clearly recognising the imagined 'provocative' nature of certain types of apparel and to his very great credit has never repeated the exercise.

If someone is looking for a reason to 'kick-off' (no pun intended ;) ) they will no doubt find it however we dress or conduct ourselves.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Deckstar - Sorry, but I think your comment that Jeans and a T-shirt are different to a football top is off the mark. You obviously live in your own little world where you think everyone is perfect how you see it.

Jeans and a T-shirt can look smart too but I wouldn't wear them to someone's wedding or any other private function. Nor would I wear a football top.

If i thought everyone was perfect surely i would think its ok to wear a football shirt without it causing a proplem in a nightclub?

In all fairness you carry on and do what you think is right, ive tired of discussing this with you.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

"I've tired of discussing this with you"

Discussing? I don't think so Mr Perfect! You seem to have it cemented in your brain that I was in the wrong when I have explained the situation a number of times. You don't seem to 'get it' do you? What is a matter with you?

You give the impression and I think that you THINK you are better than some of us, especially me for some reason. "I think it's very unprofessional" etc etc, blimey, change the record/cd/mp3.

Don't fall off your soapbox 'mate'....well, not before I push you off it (and that was a joke before the PC Brigade come on and tell me I am being threatening)...

Oh, how I wish I was Mr Perfect (not)

[ultrasound disco]

Was roaddie'ing for this firm in Glasgow many years ago.
I was in a hurry one night on a last minute call and I cut someone off at a roundabout, nothing bad it's just that I was driving a big intimidating LWB transit like it was a golf GTI.
They started following me and flashing their lights but there was no way I was going to stop..lol
8 miles later I pulled up at the boss's house where they cut in front of me and jumped out..I thought oh :Censored:!
When I opened the door they said they were police and for me to get out of the van (that will be shining bright I thought) "Show me your badges" I said, "we don't need badges" they said and then tried to pull me out of the van..I'm a big fella and held on to the steering wheel tight and gave them a taste of my steel toed boots and honked the horn to alert the neighbors at which point they let me loose and took off to nurse their kicking... lol.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Was roaddie'ing for this firm in Glasgow many years ago.

firm eh, like that was it :D, one of those kind of firms then , lol. Fair play to you, i would have kept kicking :)

[tc1ooo]

Years ago I was booked for an engagement party at a village hall, when we got there we found out it was a gypsy event. I had a box trailer at the time, I had borrowed my dads brand new MG Metro (thats how long ago it was) to tow it.

We parked at the back of the building right behind the stage, about half an hour after we started I looked out of the window and saw a load of gypsy children wheeling the trailer away! Not long after that a kid tried to pull a speaker tripod (with speaker on it) off of the stage, I just caught it in time. I was threatened by the guy getting engaged for playing "achy breaky heart"

Then at about 9pm a fight started, the bar staff slammed the shutters down over the bar, everybody joined in, we legged it out of the back door, I didn't care about the equipment I just wanted to get out of there, we felt lucky to get out alive!

10 or 15 minutes later 5 police cars turned up, and we managed to get back in. Every window, chair & table was smashed, my lighting rig had been knocked over & there was blood on my decks. A chair had been chucked through the window behind where was had set up & scratched the car.

We didn't even get paid in the end. Never ever again!

[Grahame Case]

not really violence towards me, but i have been chatted up twice now by blokes at gigs.

very disconcerting.

Fiancee was well amused.


i've done one travellers disco, covering it for another company. never again.

[Shaun]

ive tired of discussing this with you.


Discussing? I don't think so Mr Perfect! You seem to have it cemented in your brain that I was in the wrong when I have explained the situation a number of times. You don't seem to 'get it' do you? What is a matter with you?



Let it go guys. You're each entitled to your opinions. Let's keep the thread on topic please.

[PropellerHeadCase]

I wonder how that percentage compares to arrests of spectators in OTHER sports...such as Cricket, Golf, Tennis, Horse racing, Motor racing etc?

:D L :D I :D N :D K :D (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/24/australian-open-riot)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Shaun - No problem, apologies.

[Kernow]

:D L :D I :D N :D K :D (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/24/australian-open-riot)

It just gets worse :eek:

http://m.wcsh6.com/news.jsp?key=73982

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ;)

[rob1963]

With just 3,788 arrests, this represents just 0.01% of spectators.


I wonder how that percentage compares to arrests of spectators in OTHER sports...such as Cricket, Golf, Tennis, Horse racing, Motor racing etc?


:D L :D I :D N :D K :D (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/24/australian-open-riot)

Thanks for the link, Al...but I was referring to THIS country.

I'm still wondering how many other sports have a higher percentage of arrests among their spectators than football.

[soundtracker]

Thanks for the link, Al...but I was referring to THIS country.

I'm still wondering how many other sports have a higher percentage of arrests among their spectators than football.

Why? at .01% its an irrelevance!

BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE

[rob1963]

BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE

:sorry:

[Betelguese]

had a residency just a couple of miles away in a pub. One night a fight kicked off and a young lad got punched for something he did which was out of order. landlord interveened and kick lad and mates out, to me playing all you need is love and got some smerks. A week later said lads dad came in looking for the lad that had belted his pride and joy. Then promptly drew a gun and thretend the lad. police called and caught up wiyh man a couple of pubs away. As of concequence of this people stopped going in the pub. played to empty pub for two weeks. Then land lord called it a day , pub never opened again. That was 4 years ago

[mldiscos]

luckyl touch wood, never had a lot of grief at any of my gigs, but on the upside when your built like the previable outisde karsey, you dont tend to get much grief, and as my roadie also plays the second part as any additional secrurity for private functions you dont really get any grief what so ever. you get the usual other familys bitching because you haven't played there requested song because it's inapproiate etc etc, normally get brushed off the shoulder, but as soon as there proper lashed up, there all smileys and kisses and all that.

[rob1963]

The only time I've had a real problem with violence was about 15 years ago at a pub residency.

Someone requested a really crap song, and when I politely refused to play it, he smashed a bottle over my head.

Nice!

[Corabar Steve]

& you've never been the same since :sj:

[rob1963]

& you've never been the same since :sj:

Indeed!

[sleah]

The only time I've had a real problem with violence was about 15 years ago at a pub residency.

Someone requested a really crap song, and when I politely refused to play it, he smashed a bottle over my head.

Nice!


& you've never been the same since :sj:

That does indeed explain quite a lot!:D:D:D:D

[rob1963]

That does indeed explain quite a lot!:D:D:D:D

Indeed.

I think I might start using it as an excuse in future!

:p

[DeckstarDeluxe]

The only time I've had a real problem with violence was about 15 years ago at a pub residency.

Someone requested a really crap song, and when I politely refused to play it, he smashed a bottle over my head.

Nice!

What song was it?

[rob1963]

What song was it?

I can't remember, although I DO remember the artist. It was the rapper Biz Markie, and it was a 12" single which the guy handed me & asked me to play.

Not knowing the artist, I had a listen & quickly decided I wouldn't be playing it!

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I can't remember, although I DO remember the artist. It was the rapper Biz Markie, and it was a 12" single which the guy handed me & asked me to play.

Not knowing the artist, I had a listen & quickly decided I wouldn't be playing it!

rap huh? lucky he didnt pop a cap in your :Censored: lol

[DJBOXY]

Which pub was that then Betelguese I am also based in sheffield and have worked in some rough establishments in my time:eek:

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Absolute classic - Last night I went to visit a customer about a 40th birthday on Valentines Day. As I walked through the hallway I noticed a framed...wait for it.... West Ham shirt on the wall which had been signed by loads of players. I commented on it and said that I was a West Ham fan too and from then on it was all talk of football and the function.

The party is 80's themed and I can't wait to do it as some of the songs on it are great (New topic for that)...Anyway, the guy said that there will be lots of fans there too and I definitely have to play "I'm forever blowing bubbles" too (of course!) but this is the best bit....He said that a few of them are going dressed up as the team from the 80's as they all have retro shirts. I have one too and he said I should wear it.. I laughed my head off and told him about the last few days on here and the stick I have been getting for wearing my shirt...He laughed and just said "Don't worry, go for it". I did explain however that I am advertising myself when I do a private function and didn't want people to get the wrong idea especially as I have lots of tattoos too which are always covered. He understood the situation and said "Do what makes you feel comfortable but it would be good if you could".

Just thought I would share that.

[Kernow]

...Anyway, the guy said that there will be lots of fans there too and I definitely have to play "I'm forever blowing bubbles" too (of course!) .


Just as long as you don't play anything unregistered Gary ;)

Might cause bad feeling in Sheffield ? :D :D

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Sounds like you lucked out there Shakermaker. Enjoy your night

[Shakermaker Promotions]

'Lucked out'?
80's night - My forte.
West Ham fans - Yes.

No 'Lucked out' about that....

Yes, I will enjoy the night and also get well paid for it too thanks.

[Bouncy Dancefloor]

i used to do work for a gypsy family, the head bloke was a nice guy and knew me by first name. I did all his parties and if there was ever any sniff of grief or trouble, i just had to give him a nod and it was sorted

its all about who you know :)

[nigelwright7557]

i used to do work for a gypsy family, the head bloke was a nice guy and knew me by first name. I did all his parties and if there was ever any sniff of grief or trouble, i just had to give him a nod and it was sorted

its all about who you know :)

We used to get the gypsies once a year at Penrith coming in from the Appleby horse fair.
There was one gypsy who was hard as nails and was taking on all comers.
But he picked on one bloke and knocked him out.
The blokes girlfriend went up to the gypsy and hit him on the head with her high heels and knocked him spark out !

[Betelguese]

it was at the black bull in thurlstone near Penistone. Also worked at the elm on city road when it was open, there were many custodions of modern chemistry used to go in. Unusual gig cos it ran from 3 in afternoon to 7 in evening

some thing wrong with Penistone

it is a small town just outside Barnsley