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Javlingames
09-06-2008, 11:15 AM
I did a bar last night, covering for a friend, I cracked a joke about the bar staff and it did not go down well at all!!!!!!!! It normally gets a good laugh but not on this occasion.
at the end of the night i said ''a big thanks to our bar team tonight, theyre always happy and smiling, mind you, if i was nicking money from the till id be happy too''
Its just a joke for god sake, maybe they have something to hide?
mike8863
09-06-2008, 11:18 AM
ouch, maybe one of those one liners you use when you've sussed them out first....
Ace DJ
09-06-2008, 11:25 AM
Very dodgie ground. I trust you won't be back then!!!
Ace
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 11:28 AM
Well the good thing is i get on really well with the owner, he wasnt there last night so i phoned him today to tell him what had happened, he found it funny and said dont worry about it, but i dont like to think ive annoyed people.
oh well, its done now, you cant put toothpaste back in the tube once its out..........
you probably got the secret of good comedy wrong
timing
Danno13
09-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Take it you won't be getting free drinks anymore then!
UltraBeat Entertainment
09-06-2008, 11:47 AM
at the end of the night i said ''a big thanks to our bar team tonight, there always happy and smiling, mind you, if i was nicking money from the till id be happy too''
:Laugh:
I would love to see the look on there face:).
I wonder if it would be the "how the hell did he know" look:eek:
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 11:47 AM
that may have been the problem, i had been at a bbq all day and was a bit jolly on arrival, a few more drinks and i was cooking on full gas...............
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 11:54 AM
Making stupid comments about the bar staff and drinking whilst working, sounds great....
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 12:13 PM
It wasnt a corperate gig, it wasnt a wedding. it was a popular music bar, who, by choice give their dj's vouchers for drinks. its relaxed.
why was it a stupid comment?
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 12:19 PM
It wasnt a corperate gig, it wasnt a wedding. it was a popular music bar, who, by choice give their dj's vouchers for drinks. its relaxed.
why was it a stupid comment?
Personally, I don't think it was funny and could arouse suspicion. I don't think it's overly professional turning up for work having been drinking all afternoon.
It doesn't make any difference what the gig is.
Would your insurance company be happy to insure someone who turns up for work having been drinking, then operating electrical equipment? Just a thought.
I did a bar last night, covering for a friend, I cracked a joke about the bar staff and it did not go down well at all!!!!!!!! It normally gets a good laugh but not on this occasion.
at the end of the night i said ''a big thanks to our bar team tonight, theyre always happy and smiling, mind you, if i was nicking money from the till id be happy too''
Its just a joke for god sake, maybe they have something to hide?
What a stupid thing to do.
It seems there are more and more DJs who just don't think before doing something.
And we all wonder why we are getting a bad name?
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 12:28 PM
Well ive used that one liner on many gigs and if you say it with a smile on your face you can get away with it, some people take themselves too seriously.
What has insurance got to do with this thread?Isnt that another thread all together??
I assume that Solitaire is a non wise cracking DJ? just plays the records? Should DJ's just play records or is the personality DJ dead (another thread also)
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 12:32 PM
What a stupid thing to do.
It seems there are more and more DJs who just don't think before doing something.
And we all wonder why we are getting a bad name?
Ive not heard of DJ's getting a bad name, an old manager i used to work for would give his DJ's 3 pints before they started, he said they perform better
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 12:37 PM
Well ive used that one liner on many gigs and if you say it with a smile on your face you can get away with it, some people take themselves too seriously.
What has insurance got to do with this thread?Isnt that another thread all together??
I assume that Solitaire is a non wise cracking DJ? just plays the records? Should DJ's just play records or is the personality DJ dead (another thread also)
Just go to prove how little you know about me, doesn't it.
What has insurance got to do with this thread? Do you always drink and turn up for work half drunk? What other occupation would you do that in? Do you really think that if you had an accident or caused one that insurance would pay out, knowing you'd been drinking on the job?
I can and will entertain people with my mics skills, as I had to on Saturday, as there weren't many people at a wedding I was DJing at, but I still wouldn't make comments I might later regret, because I know better and hadn't been drinking all afternoon.
D you really think it's acceptable to be drinking all afternoon and then carry on when you get to work?
The publics perception of us is very low in this country and things like this don't help IMO.
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 12:44 PM
The perception is low of DJ's with rope lights and waistcoats, i wasnt aware there was an ongoing problem with dj's being drunk.
I dont regret my comment, it was a joke. Tried and tested too. normally works, on this occasion it didnt. I will use it again too.
With regards to drinking all afternoon, i had had 3 pints, hardly a skinful is it? And no i dont always turn up for work drunk, shows how little you know about me doesnt it.
yourdj
09-06-2008, 12:46 PM
Always good to get in with the staff, they are the ones who talk and influence the owners/managers decisions. I always tip the staff at my regular event about £1 per drink. It goes along way when i need things to be done (moving tables etc).
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 12:49 PM
The perception is low of DJ's with rope lights and waistcoats, i wasnt aware there was an ongoing problem with dj's being drunk.
I dont regret my comment, it was a joke. Tried and tested too. normally works, on this occasion it didnt. I will use it again too.
With regards to drinking all afternoon, i had had 3 pints, hardly a skinful is it? And no i dont always turn up for work drunk, shows how little you know about me doesnt it.
You already posted that you'd been drinking all afternoon at a BBQ.
I have heard many horror stories of DJs turning up drunk.
Funny how you ignore the rest of my post about insurance and other jobs where you can drink.
I'm not sure you'd be on the correct forum here. This is the mobile disco directory forum. If you think it's OK to do what you do, then fair enough.
I don't think it's acceptable to be drinking before going to work and carrying on when you are there and certainly would not accept or allow anyone working for me to be doing that.
Ive not heard of DJ's getting a bad name, an old manager i used to work for would give his DJ's 3 pints before they started, he said they perform better
Open your eyes.
I was actually talking about the mic comment.
But to also drink before you work is just stupid and even if you are offered a drink.. you should say no.
But maybe that is just my young morals coming in because I know I will have to get used to the saying of "12 hours from bottle to throttle".
Just go to prove how little you know about me, doesn't it.
What has insurance got to do with this thread? Do you always drink and turn up for work half drunk? What other occupation would you do that in? Do you really think that if you had an accident or caused one that insurance would pay out, knowing you'd been drinking on the job?
D you really think it's acceptable to be drinking all afternoon and then carry on when you get to work?
The publics perception of us is very low in this country and things like this don't help IMO.
I totally agree.
There was a story of a women who fell over in America.
She was barely concious.
Her husband phoned up the insurance company and they said they would cove the operation.
A few days later she died and the bill was quater of a million.
But it turned out that the man didn't tell the insurance company ont he phone that they had both been drinking.. therefore they wouldn't cover it.
The result? His wife was dead and he has a bill for 250k..
In any line of work you shouldn't drink before working. How can you think this is acceptable?
People like you shouyld not be allowed to DJ in my opinion hence my comment in another thread about there should be a watchdog for certain standards.. least then we could cut out all the crap that gets us a bad name! :mad:
The perception is low of DJ's with rope lights and waistcoats, i wasnt aware there was an ongoing problem with dj's being drunk.
No but it links into Darrens thread of "everything matters"
If a DJ turned up to my thread and had been drinking (it is easy to tell) I would tell him where to go.
Oh and if you have been drinking.. how do you get yourself back home? Drive? :rolleyes:
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 01:06 PM
I had 3 pints in the afternoon? I have insurance. I got a lift to and from the gig. Being a DJ you have certain privilges, if you fancy a beer, have one. I understand that DJ's should not get hammered at work, they should be allowed a few drinks if they want to.
Why am i on the wrong forum, i have a passion for djing, and like to speak to like minded people, im an ex mobile dj. The thread was started just to let you guys know about my little mishap, instead the internet police are out to get me.
Lighten up guys, besides, wheres does it say in the rule book dj's cant have a beer?
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 01:16 PM
that may have been the problem, i had been at a bbq all day and was a bit jolly on arrival, a few more drinks and i was cooking on full gas...............
Right.....
Is cooking on full gas not being hammered then, or perhaps I have got that wrong.
I had 3 pints in the afternoon? I have insurance. I got a lift to and from the gig. Being a DJ you have certain privilges, if you fancy a beer, have one. I understand that DJ's should not get hammered at work, they should be allowed a few drinks if they want to.
Why am i on the wrong forum, i have a passion for djing, and like to speak to like minded people, im an ex mobile dj. The thread was started just to let you guys know about my little mishap, instead the internet police are out to get me.
Lighten up guys, besides, wheres does it say in the rule book dj's cant have a beer?
I'm not saying that and never have. I am saying it's not a great idea to turn up after having been drinking already, then carry on until you are 'cooking on full gas', whatever that is?
Please ring your insurance company and ask them whether you'd be insured if you are drinking whilst working. I'd be interested to know the outcome.
And I am not the internet police, but a responsible owner of a mobile DJ forum that promotes good practise and that does not include drinking all afternoon and then going to work, whether you've had 3 pints or 10 pints.
Yeah! And easy on the Ropelights!! (see Gallery post, 18th)
I can state though, that I have never worn a waistcoat.
Candybeatdiscos
09-06-2008, 01:31 PM
People like you shouyld not be allowed to DJ in my opinion hence my comment in another thread about there should be a watchdog for certain standards.. least then we could cut out all the crap that gets us a bad name! :mad:
IMO I wouldn't go there Sam, although your entitled to your opionion etc (and i agree with the fact that the guy shouldn't drink prior to a gig) I do think that that is a a strong thing to say - remember you never know when you could be in a position and come on here and recount the events and someone disagrees and comes out with the same comment, it can and does make you feel unwanted, outcasted etc
I think this forum is for airing our thoughts etc and to encourage others to use better working practises, but i don't think we should judge people so easilly, as i said best to encourage - if they dont listen to the encouragement and do not offer anything back to the forum then best to ignore thier comments.
In regards to the comment i agree perhaps not the best thing to say, I have worked behind a bar and run the bar and bar staff get enough hassle from customers for prices etc without people accusing them (in jest) of theft, plus if they have had a particulary busy night (due to your Personailty DJ Skills) then the timing is perhaps off due to them being tired etc.
I myself used to use various lines in jest such as "Many thanks to Sam & Her sister Ella for doing the Buffet - Ladies and gents lets hear it for Sam & Ella"
This worked many a time till one day i heard the gig i did the night before and used that line i found out that quite a few of the guests actually did get food poisoining from that gig, so now i dont tempt fate anymore and dont use the line.
Ok my piece over
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 01:39 PM
Haha sorry, sorry about the ropelight comment.
I dont make a habit of drinking then going to work to then carry on drinking, it is a one off. I got caught up in the sun and the bbq, drinks were being drunk, songs were being sung etc. I had a few more drinks at work, Ultimately the bar were cool about it , i was merry, not blinding drunk.
maybe i am on the wrong forum but i have a question.
Why do nightclub managers allow DJ's to drink?
bearing in mind I always drive to a gig, I often have a pint when I get there to settle the nerves. Then I'm on water and orange juice throughout the night.
The law says I can drive if I have this amount (although that is subject to change) I am allowed a pint when I'm doing the day job (at lunchtimes) and so I figure, I am also allowed a pint when doing this job.
For folks who do this part time, Disco's tend to be in unsociable hours, when you would ordinarily relax and have a good time, maybe a few drinks. I don't see the harm in having a pint, literally 1 pint, when I get to a job.
As for the "People like you shouldn't be allowed to DJ" take it with a pinch of salt. Its holier than thou point scoring, designed to elevate his status above yours. It was a bit of a bad admission on your part when you consider there are posters on this board who have never made a mistake or shown poor judgement when DJing ever!
If you've never let anyone down, deliver a top notch service, are reliable and trustworthy, then why shouldn't you DJ?
Candybeatdiscos
09-06-2008, 02:00 PM
As for the "People like you shouldn't be allowed to DJ" take it with a pinch of salt. Its holier than thou point scoring, designed to elevate his status above yours. It was a bit of a bad admission on your part when you consider there are posters on this board who have never made a mistake or shown poor judgement when DJing ever!
Again a poor comment i feel, we all make mistakes, its how we learn from them, every single person on this forum has made a mistake in some form regarding DJ'ing running a business, thats from the vastly experianced to the relatively new.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 02:06 PM
Why do nightclub managers allow DJ's to drink?
No idea, but this in the Mobile Disco Directory.
Again a poor comment i feel, we all make mistakes, its how we learn from them, every single person on this forum has made a mistake in some form regarding DJ'ing running a business, thats from the vastly experianced to the relatively new.
My comment was tongue in cheek...I agree with your post, and would hope that others remember the facts you mentioned prior to jumping down someone's throat or getting involved in a bit of flaming.
rob1963
09-06-2008, 02:10 PM
I did a bar last night, covering for a friend, I cracked a joke about the bar staff and it did not go down well at all!!!!!!!! It normally gets a good laugh but not on this occasion.
at the end of the night i said ''a big thanks to our bar team tonight, theyre always happy and smiling, mind you, if i was nicking money from the till id be happy too''
Its just a joke for god sake, maybe they have something to hide?
Personally, I wouldn't say something suggesting the bar staff were stealing money from the till...whether meant as a joke or not. Very unfunny & very wrong in my opinion.
I'm happy to come out with funnies on the mic, but if I don't know the people & I'm not sure how something will go down, then I won't say it.
As for drinking 3 pints before a gig, I would never drink before or during a gig, partly because I don't think it looks very professional and partly because I need to have my wits about me...and that means having a clear head.
dmckaraoke
09-06-2008, 02:11 PM
Yeah! And easy on the Ropelights!! (see Gallery post, 18th)
I can state though, that I have never worn a waistcoat.
Forget the rope lights ... but nothing wrong with a waistcoat...is there??
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 02:17 PM
Forget the rope lights ... but nothing wrong with a waistcoat...is there??
Nope. :)
axeman
09-06-2008, 02:22 PM
i feel your pain, i too have said the wrong thing before....
a local gay couple got into an argument in another pub nearby, and one stabbed the other with a pair of scissors, it was in all the local papers etc, so the following week, while working at my resdidency (party pub) i wished them get well soon and made a special dedication then played the scissor sisters, but one of the peeps in the pub was related to the injured party and went ballistic over the dj booth. ...lesson learned, i consider my self a personality dj, but my personality is now kept in check, unless im 100% sure im on solid ground, and don't worry too much about the negative comments, you will quickly get used to forum and the lay of the land.
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 02:29 PM
Yeah im used to the hostility from certain members of the forum. Alot of threads end up with members exchanging cross words. I think if you are a personality DJ who likes to have a laugh and joke around you are occasionally going to offend someone.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 02:35 PM
Yeah im used to the hostility from certain members of the forum. Alot of threads end up with members exchanging cross words. I think if you are a personality DJ who likes to have a laugh and joke around you are occasionally going to offend someone.
What complete rubbish.
I was and am still a personality DJ, but know where to draw the line and not make unsuitable comments.
I am not hostile towards you. I despair of people who make these kind of posts and then think it's OK to justify themselves.
You have already said in another thread that you drunk someone's drink 'cos they put it on your gear and it made you feel tipsy. Not good practise.
I won't have people posting stupid things on this site without making a comment if I don't agree. Everyone has the right to an opinion without having others saying that they are hostile.
I don't think you take the industry seriously enough, if you think that drinking before and during a gig is OK and I'm not talking about having the odd pint either. You have already posted that you were 'cooking on full gas" meaning getting fairly drunk, I assume?
Because I disagree with certain people on this forum, doesn't make me hostile and I am certainly allowed my opinion without others saying this.
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 02:44 PM
I didnt say you were being hostile.
Just for the record you claim that I had been drinking all day, where in this thread have you got that from? I said I was at a BBQ all day, doesnt mean i was drinking all day. 3 pints were drunk between 3pm and 8pm.
What complete rubbish.
I am not hostile towards you. I despair of people who make these kind of posts and then think it's OK to justify themselves.
I won't have people posting stupid things on this site without making a comment if I don't agree. Everyone has the right to an opinion without having others saying that they are hostile.
I don't think you take the industry seriously enough, if you think that drinking before and during a gig is OK and I'm not talking about having the odd pint either. You have already posted that you were 'cooking on full gas" meaning getting fairly drunk, I assume?
Because I disagree with certain people on this forum, doesn't make me hostile and I am certainly allowed my opinion without others saying this.
Exactly :o
I didnt say you were being hostile.
Just for the record you claim that I had been drinking all day, where in this thread have you got that from? I said I was at a BBQ all day, doesnt mean i was drinking all day. 3 pints were drunk between 3pm and 8pm.
Sorry but drinking 3 pints before starting work is still pretty stupid.
I can agree to 'some' extent with having one.. but 3?
You must have very good tolerance to alcohol if you think that you are not affected at all by it :o
And like Daz said previously.. do find out about your insurance.. if they do cover incidents in which you had been drinking.. I think we should move to them! :)
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 02:52 PM
I didnt say you were being hostile..
No, but you did infer it in this post.
Yeah im used to the hostility from certain members of the forum.
Just for the record you claim that I had been drinking all day, where in this thread have you got that from? I said I was at a BBQ all day, doesnt mean i was drinking all day. 3 pints were drunk between 3pm and 8pm.
Look, you are obviously back tracking, you implied that you had been drinking all day and that you were still drinking when you started work and you were 'cooking on full gas' when you made the comment.
If you want to drink when you are working and before, then crack on. I don't think it's a great idea, but then I do this for a living and can't afford the casual approach to my business or to have mistakes happen that could have been avoided if alcohol wasn't involved.
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 02:52 PM
Sam,
when did i say I dont feel affected by alcohol? Would I still be insured if i had 1 pint then?
Candybeatdiscos
09-06-2008, 02:53 PM
And like Daz said previously.. do find out about your insurance.. if they do cover incidents in which you had been drinking.. I think we should move to them! :)
So your openly admitting to drinking whilst operating electrical machinery?
lol sorry bad joke in poor taste
So your openly admitting to drinking whilst operating electrical machinery?
lol sorry bad joke in poor taste
How you got that from my post I don't know...
The comment about insurance was intended to point out that they msut be a very leanient (spelling?) insurance company!
And no.. I have never had a drink before going to work.. whether it is DJing or the Theatre. And I don't plan to. In the future I would loose my license and thus career over if I did.
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Sam,
when did i say I dont feel affected by alcohol? Would I still be insured if i had 1 pint then?
So if you are affected by Alcohol... why are you drinking? Surely it will effect your judgments and ability to work properly? :confused:
And no.. I highly doubt it. I was just saying that I can sort of see why some people have a pint.. especially as it does not affect your functions as much.
Personally I still see it as unproffesional and never drink before working.
After? Yes. Before? No.
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 03:03 PM
OK lets draw a line underneath this now, I posted this subject because I thought you guys would be interested. It is my business if i want to have some beers whilst performing. Everyone has their opinions, some people are polite in their posts and others are just harsh.
CRAZY K
09-06-2008, 03:10 PM
Take it you won't be getting free drinks anymore then!
Free drinks in Higham Ferrers ???
You are joking:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
CRAZY K
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 03:11 PM
OK lets draw a line underneath this now, I posted this subject because I thought you guys would be interested. It is my business if i want to have some beers whilst performing. Everyone has their opinions, some people are polite in their posts and others are just harsh.
Or truthful and realistic.
This business isn't taken that seriously by a lot of the general public and we wonder why?
It is your business if you want to drink before and when you are working and if you don't want opinion then don't post it on a public forum for all to see.
I don't disagree with someone having a pint at the beginning of the evening if they want to, but do disagree with drinking before you start work and then carrying on as I think there could be disasterous consequencies if you are not in total control.
OllieJames
09-06-2008, 03:14 PM
''a big thanks to our bar team tonight, theyre always happy and smiling, mind you, if i was nicking money from the till id be happy too''
:lol: hahahaa
what? i found it funny :o
rob1963
09-06-2008, 03:16 PM
:lol: hahahaa
what? i found it funny :o
Will you be saying it at your next gig, then?
Paul James Promotions
09-06-2008, 03:18 PM
Will you be saying it at your next gig, then?
I might give it a go :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 03:20 PM
:lol: hahahaa
what? i found it funny :o
But you're 15....:p ;)
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 03:21 PM
Yes i can understand your views. To some extent you are suggesting that i do this on a regular basis and i do not.
In all honesty my personal view is that if you want to have a drink, do so, just get a lift to and from work and do not get drunk as a rat, remain in charge at all times. Also the type of function. West End Hotel , no drink, popular and lively upfront music bar, a couple if you wish.
I feel the business is not taken seriously because of out right awful mobile dj's, not neccaserily drink related, Unfortunately mobile DJ's are stereotyped which annoys me because there are some talented guys out there that deserve a better billing.
Shaun
09-06-2008, 03:23 PM
I had 3 pints in the afternoon? I have insurance. I got a lift to and from the gig. Being a DJ you have certain privilges, if you fancy a beer, have one. I understand that DJ's should not get hammered at work, they should be allowed a few drinks if they want to.
I absolutely disagree. You're there performing in a professional capacity, not socialising on a night off. If you want a drink it's best to wait till you get home. You mention you have insurance. Do you think your insurance would be valid if you knocked over a speaker or lighting onto someone after you've had a drink?.
Jiggles
09-06-2008, 03:23 PM
Just going to stick my toe in the door here but what one person thinks is too far another may think that it was a good joke.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 03:25 PM
Yes i can understand your views. To some extent you are suggesting that i do this on a regular basis and i do not.
Fair enough, but at the time of posting you had less than 40 posts and yet 1 of them were things to do with drinking before a gig and then carrying on during the gig and the other one was about drinking someone elses drink when they put it on your gear.
OllieJames
09-06-2008, 03:27 PM
But you're 15....:p ;)
Exactally, that's where my immaturity comes through i guess... :P
Nah, i wouldn't say it at a gig though!
rob1963
09-06-2008, 03:30 PM
Nah, i wouldn't say it at a gig though!
So you didn't find it THAT funny then?
:rolleyes:
OllieJames
09-06-2008, 03:33 PM
So you didn't find it THAT funny then?
:rolleyes:
I found it funny, but knowing what can happen if people don't approve of the joke (hence the 6 pages in this thread...), i personally wouldn't say it..
rob1963
09-06-2008, 03:34 PM
I found it funny, but knowing what can happen if people don't approve of the joke (hence the 6 pages in this thread...), i personally wouldn't say it..
Very wise!
OllieJames
09-06-2008, 03:35 PM
Very wise!
:approve:
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 03:37 PM
Well ive used it on a regular basis for coming on 10 years now and its never offended anyone before.
Anyway, having spoke to another DJ there, it transpires that someone got sacked last week for giving out free drinks, so at the moment allstaff are being watched!!! so bad timing on my behalf...
Jiggles
09-06-2008, 03:38 PM
I would crack a joke but would say that anyone was stealing something even for a joke!
PB Entertainments
09-06-2008, 03:43 PM
I have to admit, unless I REALLY knew the bar staff and the owner (which I do in a few pubs I've played in, my present residency NOT included though) I wouldn't crack that kind of joke. When you're bringing peoples honesty into question (whether as a joke or not) you have to be willing to take the consequences.
Dragonfly
09-06-2008, 03:46 PM
the way i have always worked is .... noone can take offence if you say something nice to/about them ive never been a take the wee wee out of people at gigs dj unless i know them .
Javlingames
09-06-2008, 03:46 PM
i am taking the consequences today hehe.
UltraBeat Entertainment
09-06-2008, 04:01 PM
i am taking the consequences today hehe.
Bet you'll be more careful what you post next time.
My head hurts after doing all that reading:(
Candybeatdiscos
09-06-2008, 04:12 PM
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
Shaun
09-06-2008, 04:18 PM
Foresight is better.
Candybeatdiscos
09-06-2008, 04:40 PM
lol too true shaun
axeman
09-06-2008, 05:14 PM
im off tonight to do the durham university graduation ball, anyone know any good jokes i could use...lol
djsteve10
09-06-2008, 05:36 PM
After reading all the comments that have been made its just a shame you cannot sack yourself as in any other state of employment you would of been dismissed due to working under the influence of alcohol.
Dragonfly
09-06-2008, 05:59 PM
im off tonight to do the durham university graduation ball, anyone know any good jokes i could use...lol
nah just tell em all to get a flippin job !!!!!
After reading all the comments that have been made its just a shame you cannot sack yourself as in any other state of employment you would of been dismissed due to working under the influence of alcohol.
I guess it fortunate he's the boss then, isn't it. He can let himself off with a warning :rolleyes:
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 06:15 PM
i think people are taking this out of context- it sounds more like club work than true mobile work and thats a different kettle of fish.
i think that you should be able to do the job and 3 pints will affect different people in different ways.
seems like javlin man was on to a hiding from the start though...
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 06:21 PM
Drinking while working in any other job involving operating electrical equipment would not be tolerated. There's your context.
ppentertainments
09-06-2008, 06:25 PM
i think people are taking this out of context- it sounds more like club work than true mobile work and thats a different kettle of fish.
i think that you should be able to do the job and 3 pints will affect different people in different ways.
seems like javlin man was on to a hiding from the start though...
Agree. There are a lot of place I used to work when starting where I woud get free drink as a thank you from the landlord!!
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 06:32 PM
Drinking while working in any other job involving operating electrical equipment would not be tolerated. There's your context.
musicians, bar staff and probably more i cant think of.
i dont want to argue about it- just commenting that i think the original post was fair enough yet has been slammed completely.
for the record if people get stressed about that joke then they need to take things less seriously.
life is too short.
Excalibur
09-06-2008, 06:39 PM
As regards drinking whilst DJ'ing I have to say that nowadays I nearly always stick to soft drinks. It was not always thus, but I was younger then. :o Sometimes, when the gig is over, I will accept a pint, often shandy. There are exceptions to this, but they are very specific, and not an everyday booking. I have to say, that a sober DJ is better than a drunk one.
Drinking while working in any other job involving operating electrical equipment would not be tolerated. There's your context.
Personally I would preface that with " excessive" but I'm basically with Darren on this. I don't think that the DJ having a skinful is acceptable nowadays.
musicians, bar staff and probably more i cant think of.
i dont want to argue about it- just commenting that i think the original post was fair enough yet has been slammed completely.
for the record if people get stressed about that joke then they need to take things less seriously.
life is too short.
Actually I think the original post was out of order, and got all it deserved. It's well known on here how much I like my drink, even to some gobbledygook posts following a couple of bottles. I wouldn't ever post on here that I had done a Disco in that state.
Also, I have to say that unless you know them very well, taking the mickey out of venue staff is dicey, and insulting them is out of the question!( In all cases, I mean who in their right mind is going to antagonise the people who can make their life hell ? )
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 06:43 PM
As regards drinking whilst DJ'ing I have to say that nowadays I nearly always stick to soft drinks. It was not always thus, but I was younger then. :o Sometimes, when the gig is over, I will accept a pint, often shandy. There are exceptions to this, but they are very specific, and not an everyday booking. I have to say, that a sober DJ is better than a drunk one.
i agree, and would never ever be drunk at a gig, however we were talking about 3 pints in a bar environment.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 06:48 PM
musicians, bar staff and probably more i cant think of.
i dont want to argue about it- just commenting that i think the original post was fair enough yet has been slammed completely.
for the record if people get stressed about that joke then they need to take things less seriously.
life is too short.
So you keep saying on other threads. You always seem to imply that everything is taken too seriously. Perhaps if you relied on the income from this business you'd have a different attitude.
If you don't want to 'argue' about it, then don't comment. I don't think it's acceptable and have given my reasons why.
Musicians are a law until themselves and I think you'll find that most bar staff are not allowed by breweries or managers to drink on duty.
i agree, and would never ever be drunk at a gig, however we were talking about 3 pints in a bar environment.
No, we were talking about 3 pints before he got to work and then if you read the posts, more after that.
He was "running on full gas" or whatever the phrase was.
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 07:03 PM
So you keep saying on other threads. You always seem to imply that everything is taken too seriously. Perhaps if you relied on the income from this business you'd have a different attitude.
I dont think so.
But you are right- I do think people in general take things too seriously.
Not just on this forum but in life in general- thats my view on life though.
With regard to your other point you cant just say musicians are a law unto themselves- maybe javlin man is a law unto himself. Who knows.
I respect your views more than most on this forum Daz however in this instance I just think what was initially a fair enough comment was picked to shreds- not just by you but by others too.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 07:08 PM
With regard to your other point you cant just say musicians are a law unto themselves
Of course I can and they are.
The higher paid ones have riders, normally with large amounts of alcohol involved.
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 07:10 PM
Of course I can and they are.
The higher paid ones have riders, normally with large amounts of alcohol involved.
but i wasnt talking about u2.
i was talking about many who play weddings or functions like we do.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 07:12 PM
I I just think what was initially a fair enough comment was picked to shreds- not just by you but by others too.
Fair enough comment? I thought it was rather stupid and said so. I know where the draw the line with comments on the mic and wouldn't have said something like that. How is that picking it to shreads? It only went on from there as the OP went on to say he had been drinking in the afternoon and was a bit jolly/merry when he turned up for work, which I don't think is appropriate.
If you don't want others to comment on your actions, then don't post on a public forum.
What did the OP think people were going to say? Well done for upsetting the bar staff and for drinking on the job. Good man, we all think you're great now and one of the lads.
Please.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 07:14 PM
but i wasnt talking about u2.
i was talking about many who play weddings or functions like we do.
Yes, and they turn up when they want and play when they want in my experience. I've played with plenty of bands, a few have been very pro, but the majority seem to do what they want and that includes sitting in the bar and shanting it up before they play.
i think that you should be able to do the job and 3 pints will affect different people in different ways.
I agree. Everyone is different. I mean If I had :beer1: :beer1: :beer1: I could tell you I would think I'm a fairy and would try to fly. I don't drink at all so even one beer would have a big effect on me.
If I did drink , and lets bring smoking in to this aswell, I would make sure I did neither till the end of the gig and all packed away. I don't think it looks good to watch a DJ go out for a fag while leave his gear or standing there drinking a few pints.
Just my view.
Excalibur
09-06-2008, 07:22 PM
Yes, and they turn up when they want and play when they want in my experience. I've played with plenty of bands, a few have been very pro, but the majority seem to do what they want and that includes sitting in the bar and shanting it up before they play.
Ooooooooooooooooooh!:eek: I think we've all seen both extremes, haven't we? ;) Some are genuinely a pleasure to work with, whereas others................................... just don't get me started on what I dislike about ( awkward ) Bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 07:27 PM
I don't think it looks good to watch a DJ go out for a fag while leave his gear
Me neither, that's why I gave up. (amongst other reasons)
PropellerHeadCase
09-06-2008, 08:17 PM
The perception is low of DJ's with rope lights and waistcoats, i wasnt aware there was an ongoing problem with dj's being drunk.
I guarantee you that more people would lower their expectations of a DJ due to inappropriate drunkenness than a rope-light or a perfectly good waistcoat.
i think people are taking this out of context- it sounds more like club work than true mobile work and thats a different kettle of fish.
i think that you should be able to do the job and 3 pints will affect different people in different ways.
seems like javlin man was on to a hiding from the start though...
Agreed on ALL pints, er, points ;)
but i wasnt talking about u2.
I played at a half decent hotel with a band just before Christmas - lead singer/songwriter has been in the top 20 twice, no number ones, they had a full three course meal like the guests, their own very large room and their preferred liquid refreshments... I had to ask for a snack and an orange juice. Care to hazard a guess as to who got more people dancing?
On a related note, I agree that drinking prior to a gig isn't on (though a half pint with dinner two hours before leaving the house seems reasonable), but drinking oneself into insensibility upon returning home isn't too smart, either... a good-sized hang-over can effect you well into the afternoon of the following day (you could get breathalysed on the way to that 11am set-up and fail!). Just a thought.
Excalibur
09-06-2008, 08:23 PM
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On a related note, I agree that drinking prior to a gig isn't on (though a half pint with dinner two hours before leaving the house seems reasonable), but drinking oneself into insensibility upon returning home isn't too smart, either... a good-sized hang-over can effect you well into the afternoon of the following day (you could get breathalysed on the way to that 11am set-up and fail!). Just a thought.
Excellent advice. A common language error also, you're not talking your way out of this one.:p :D :D I'll reiterate though, the effects of excessive alcohol consumption can linger for a long long time. The Police at cetain times of year score heavily by running breath tests in the mornings as folk drive to work after the night before. ;) ;)
ppentertainments
09-06-2008, 08:24 PM
I played at a half decent hotel with a band just before Christmas - lead singer/songwriter has been in the top 20 twice, no number ones, they had a full three course meal like the guests, their own very large room and their preferred liquid refreshments... I had to ask for a snack and an orange juice. Care to hazard a guess as to who got more people dancing?
That is because a band are talented musicians, all we do is play a bit of music.:eek: :D :D :D
rob1963
09-06-2008, 08:26 PM
That is because a band are talented musicians, all we do is play a bit of music.:eek: :D :D :D
Very true!
Also, they usually have a repetoire of at least 20-30 songs, whereas we only have around 5,000-20,000 at our disposal.
Excalibur
09-06-2008, 08:28 PM
Very true!
Also, they usually have a repetoire of at least 20-30 songs, whereas we only have around 5,000-20,000 at our disposal.
Fibber, you can't get that many in a little Ipod. :p :p
rob1963
09-06-2008, 08:38 PM
Also, they usually have a repetoire of at least 20-30 songs, whereas we only have around 5,000-20,000 at our disposal.
Fibber, you can't get that many in a little Ipod. :p :p
Oh yes you can!
A 160gb ipod classic will hold over 20,000 songs ripped at 256kb.
:D :D :D
Charlie Brown
09-06-2008, 08:48 PM
I think it's safe to speak now, so overlooking on everything I did find it quite funny...but didn’t want to say early on as it may have rocked the boat:)
I think the post has escalated into something that it shouldn't have, and we should all accept that we all have different views on things and should respect them:D
nigelwright7557
09-06-2008, 09:00 PM
I did a bar last night, covering for a friend, I cracked a joke about the bar staff and it did not go down well at all!!!!!!!! It normally gets a good laugh but not on this occasion.
at the end of the night i said ''a big thanks to our bar team tonight, theyre always happy and smiling, mind you, if i was nicking money from the till id be happy too''
Its just a joke for god sake, maybe they have something to hide?
I think some people would have been insulted by that remark.
How about if someone joked that your disco was put together at Toys R Us ?
Not so funny on the other side of the joke !
Dragonfly
09-06-2008, 09:18 PM
I think some people would have been insulted by that remark.
How about if someone joked that your disco was put together at Toys R Us ?
Not so funny on the other side of the joke !
I tell Tony his disco is put together by toys r us everyday :confused: :confused: :confused: but then i suppose i know him.
Excalibur
09-06-2008, 09:20 PM
I tell Tony his disco is put together by toys r us everyday :confused: :confused: :confused: but then i suppose i know him.
I thought it was, I mean he uses a Cortex for a start! I'm doing my best to part him from it, and help him go upmarket :eek: :sofa:
One Vision
09-06-2008, 09:24 PM
I did a bar last night, covering for a friend, I cracked a joke about the bar staff and it did not go down well at all!!!!!!!! It normally gets a good laugh but not on this occasion.
at the end of the night i said ''a big thanks to our bar team tonight, theyre always happy and smiling, mind you, if i was nicking money from the till id be happy too''
Its just a joke for god sake, maybe they have something to hide?
OOO not a wise move :D
Penfold42
09-06-2008, 09:28 PM
I thought it was, I mean he uses a Cortex for a start! I'm doing my best to part him from it, and help him go upmarket :eek: :sofa:
:lol:....... Think again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNzEQ8hG1zA)
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 09:29 PM
I think some people would have been insulted by that remark.
How about if someone joked that your disco was put together at Toys R Us ?
Not so funny on the other side of the joke !
would you really get offended by that?
i would see it as a joke- as it was intended.
ppentertainments
09-06-2008, 09:31 PM
The funniest thing about this post is the amount of views and replies it has had !!
nigelwright7557
09-06-2008, 09:34 PM
[QUOTE=rob1963;242206]Personally, I wouldn't say something suggesting the bar staff were stealing money from the till...whether meant as a joke or not. Very unfunny & very wrong in my opinion.
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But what if one of the bar staff was the venue owners son or daughter or wife ?
You could have lost all your gigs if they took it badly.
I personally would leave the comedy to comedians and stick to DJing.
rob1963
09-06-2008, 09:38 PM
Personally, I wouldn't say something suggesting the bar staff were stealing money from the till...whether meant as a joke or not. Very unfunny & very wrong in my opinion.
QUOTE]
But what if one of the bar staff was the venue owners son or daughter or wife ?
You could have lost all your gigs if they took it badly.
I personally would leave the comedy to comedians and stick to DJing.
I wouldn't know if one of the bar staff was the venue owners son, daughter or wife, but that wouldn't make any difference anyway...as I've already said I would NOT say something suggesting that the bar staff were stealing money from the till, so I don't really understand the point you're trying to make.
:confused:
BeerFunk
09-06-2008, 09:41 PM
Ouch! Sounds like a Michael 'Kramer' Richards moment! :eek:
I myself used to use various lines in jest such as "Many thanks to Sam & Her sister Ella for doing the Buffet - Ladies and gents lets hear it for Sam & Ella"
This worked many a time till one day i heard the gig i did the night before and used that line i found out that quite a few of the guests actually did get food poisoining from that gig, so now i dont tempt fate anymore and dont use the line.
Ok my piece overThe local karaoke guy uses this line every week, no matter who it is, and it always gets a laugh..
"No need for applause, she got the clap last week"
That takes a bit of bottle, but it's all in your delivery!
maybe i am on the wrong forum but i have a question.
Why do nightclub managers allow DJ's to drink?I've DJed in a few bars and small clubs where you always get offered a drink, never in the bigger, more well known clubs though.
The funniest thing about this post is the amount of views and replies it has had !!Yep, unsurprising really. I don't find anything wrong with having one or two drinks, but I say if you're over the limit to drive you're over the limit to DJ! (If Guinness made rulebooks... that wouldn't be in it! :D)
Excalibur
09-06-2008, 09:42 PM
Also, I have to say that unless you know them very well, taking the mickey out of venue staff is dicey, and insulting them is out of the question!( In all cases, I mean who in their right mind is going to antagonise the people who can make their life hell ? )
I wouldn't know if one of the bar staff was the venue owners son, daughter or wife, but that wouldn't make any difference anyway...as I've already said I would NOT say something suggesting that the bar staff were stealing money from the till, so I don't really understand the point you're trying to make.
:confused:
Oh bother! :( Rob and I are both confused and in agreement! This is not good. :bang:
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 09:46 PM
I've DJed in a few bars and small clubs where you always get offered a drink, never in the bigger, more well known clubs though.
When I worked in Sheffield Student Union you got a rider of a 4 pack of Carling.
Solitaire Events Ltd
09-06-2008, 09:51 PM
When I worked in Sheffield Student Union you got a rider of a 4 pack of Carling.
A good a reason as any not to drink when working...:D
wensleydale
09-06-2008, 09:54 PM
A good a reason as any not to drink when working...:D
A good point well made.
One Vision
09-06-2008, 10:00 PM
Must admit done some gigs were the manager buys you your first drink whatever it is and serves you too, but only drink coke when working even asked for a cup of coffee before now. :rolleyes:
Boogie Boy
09-06-2008, 11:39 PM
My 2 pennyworth.
Maybe the original poster was a tad silly to make the remark, but it shouldn't be a hangin' offence and he didn't deserve the flak he received.
Personally, I think it's a sad day when Political Correctness stops anyone from having a drink or two..even though I don't have any myself nowadays whilst working.
When I worked in Spain, all drinks were free and more often than not, the barman would give me alcohol even if I didn't ask for it. "Da me un agua con gas, Theo...No hombre, tu necesitas un tequila...doble". Spelling and poor grammar aside after all these years, roughly translated means "Theo, give me a glass of sparkling water,....No man, you need a tequila..a double". I used to sometimes end up the worse for wear, even though I tried my best to keep sober. After all, I HAD to drink something in the heat that was a Spanish nightclub/discotheque, and working 6 hours every night, 7 days a week was physicaly and mentally demanding. One of the few escapes from the totality that was work, was the odd drink. On occasions, we (various residents and myself) wouldn't get to bed until after midday, cos life was a hedonistic party back then. What has happened to change it all, I wonder? Even bands don't party like they used to.
Javlingames
10-06-2008, 09:43 AM
Well I had a call last night from the owner of the bar and he passed on an apology from the particular member of bar staff who was the most upset by my comment. She said that she was not in a great mood on Sunday and my comment topped it off but she did say that if she was in a better mood she would have found it amusing. She said she remembers me from other nights ive done in there and she thinks i am a nice bloke!!! So it all turned out ok in the end.
Charlie Brown
10-06-2008, 09:55 AM
So it all turned out ok in the end.
Ahh good, moi is pleased:)
theoloyla
10-06-2008, 04:45 PM
Just read all this. Wow! I am a dj who wears waistcoats and uses ropelights.
You say you have used this joke before over a long period of time. I reckon you are lucky not to have been sued for slander or had a slap. It makes the assumption that all bar staff are on the fiddle like all dj's wear waistcoats and use ropelights - except you of course who are obviously a smart Alec. Lots of comedians insult people and people find it funny. It is cruel, cheap condesceding humour. Ocasionally those same comedians also get sued, challenged, heckled or have things thrown at them. I frequently make jokes about the bar staff at regular gigs I do but I would never make a joke about someone being dishonest. It is often the staff at a venue that will pass your name on for work; so I pays to have them on side.
On the subject of drink - I drink shandy at my gigs. Daz doesnt approve but I stay within legal driving limits and feel that is acceptable. Times and attitudes have changed over the years. Back in the 60's and 70's I often used to dj and drive when I had probably had too much. When I did club work it was definately accepted - although some clubs would not allow you to have a drink in the dj booth. In some European countries no one who is working is allowed to drink. If I am working a stage at a big venue I would not expect to take a drink on stage but in a party type gig it is different.
Excalibur
10-06-2008, 05:30 PM
Just read all this. Wow! I am a dj who wears waistcoats and uses ropelights.
You say you have used this joke before over a long period of time. I reckon you are lucky not to have been sued for slander or had a slap. It makes the assumption that all bar staff are on the fiddle like all dj's wear waistcoats and use ropelights - except you of course who are obviously a smart Alec. Lots of comedians insult people and people find it funny. It is cruel, cheap condesceding humour. Ocasionally those same comedians also get sued, challenged, heckled or have things thrown at them. I frequently make jokes about the bar staff at regular gigs I do but I would never make a joke about someone being dishonest. It is often the staff at a venue that will pass your name on for work; so I pays to have them on side.
On the subject of drink - I drink shandy at my gigs. Daz doesnt approve but I stay within legal driving limits and feel that is acceptable. Times and attitudes have changed over the years. Back in the 60's and 70's I often used to dj and drive when I had probably had too much. When I did club work it was definately accepted - although some clubs would not allow you to have a drink in the dj booth. In some European countries no one who is working is allowed to drink. If I am working a stage at a big venue I would not expect to take a drink on stage but in a party type gig it is different.
Theo you're starting to worry me! :eek: Are you me in a parallel universe? :D :D
Apart from the shandy, I could have written the same thing word for word myself, and wish to point out how disappointed I am not only about the initial start of this thread, but also how some people appear to think that this sort of behaviour is acceptable nowadays. :bang: :bang: :bang:
Guess I must be getting old! :( :(
Solitaire Events Ltd
10-06-2008, 05:30 PM
Daz doesnt approve but I stay within legal driving limits and feel that is acceptable. Times and attitudes have changed over the years.
Times have changed Theo and I think that's the problem. I used to drink at gigs years ago. A lot. It was accepted as the norm back then, but these days with people sueing at the drop of a hat and having to be insured and stick to guidelines, there is no room for error.
I have never said I disapprove of a pint of so whilst working. I believe that is up to the individual. What I don't approve of it drinking before going to work and then carrying on and thinking it's funny to insult someone 'cos you've had a few.
Shandy is fine in my book and so is having a pint but staying within your personal and the legal limits.
Personally, I don't drink while working and don't encourage any of my DJs to either. They work under my PLI and are also covered under my employers liability insurance, so I wouldn't expect them to be drinking on the job.
Excalibur
10-06-2008, 05:41 PM
Times have changed Theo and I think that's the problem. I used to drink at gigs years ago. A lot. It was accepted as the norm back then, but these days with people sueing at the drop of a hat and having to be insured and stick to guidelines, there is no room for error.
Come off it Darren, you're a callow youth! :D Times have changed for Theo and myself, but barely for one so young as yourself. ;) :D :D :D
Solitaire Events Ltd
10-06-2008, 05:44 PM
Come off it Darren, you're a callow youth! :D Times have changed for Theo and myself, but barely for one so young as yourself. ;) :D :D :D
Trust me Peter, 20 odd years ago having a few whilst working wasn't a problem and times and attitudes towards a lot of things have completely changed. I'm not sure about during the war though....:p
Come off it Darren, you're a callow youth! :D Times have changed for Theo and myself, but barely for one so young as yourself. ;) :D :D :D
That line made my day :D :D :D :D :p
Excalibur
10-06-2008, 05:55 PM
Trust me Peter, 20 odd years ago having a few whilst working wasn't a problem and times and attitudes towards a lot of things have completely changed. I'm not sure about during the war though....:p
I know. It was a bit of a trek carrying wax cylinders through the mud at Sebastopol. :D :D
Footnote: For our younger readers. Darren has made a humorous reference to the war regarding my age, and I have played along with it even to alluding to a battle in a war hundreds ( I think ) of years previous to the one he was on about. :D :D :D :D
sleah
10-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Why do nightclub managers allow DJ's to drink?
I can (sort of) answer this one.
Nightclub managers don't allow DJ's to drink.
However, some nightclub managers allow DJ's to drink.
Not very helpful, but it's better to be clear.
Would I still be insured if i had 1 pint then?
Good question! It would be very subjective. For just the act of DJing, I suspect it would be OK, as the risk is relatively low. However, when it comes to rigging, such as errecting a truss, suspending lights, lifting speakers on to stands, then I'm certain it would not be OK.
for the record if people get stressed about that joke then they need to take things less seriously.
life is too short.
A wise musician I know makes this comment (or something to this effect):
When people say someone is oversensitive, it is not the person that is oversensitive, it is those around them who are not sensitive enough.
Food for thought there. I happen to agree with him.
theoloyla
10-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Theo you're starting to worry me! :eek: Are you me in a parallel universe? :D :D
Apart from the shandy, I could have written the same thing word for word myself, and wish to point out how disappointed I am not only about the initial start of this thread, but also how some people appear to think that this sort of behaviour is acceptable nowadays. :bang: :bang: :bang:
Guess I must be getting old! :( :(
We both are.
wensleydale
10-06-2008, 06:52 PM
A wise musician I know makes this comment (or something to this effect):
When people say someone is oversensitive, it is not the person that is oversensitive, it is those around them who are not sensitive enough.
Food for thought there. I happen to agree with him.
And the world would be full of grumpy old men.
They're the type of people who get too stressed to work and have heart attacks.
Regardless of the joke it was intended as a joke.
We both are.
Isn't everyone?
PropellerHeadCase
10-06-2008, 07:00 PM
Excellent advice. A common language error also, you're not talking your way out of this one.:p :D :D I'll reiterate though, the effects of excessive alcohol consumption can linger for a long long time. The Police at cetain times of year score heavily by running breath tests in the mornings as folk drive to work after the night before. ;) ;)
Hi, Pot! Glass Houses? Stone? :p
Trust me Peter, 20 odd years ago having a few whilst working wasn't a problem and times and attitudes towards a lot of things have completely changed. I'm not sure about during the war though....:p
:D Tee-Hee
I know. It was a bit of a trek carrying wax cylinders through the mud at Sebastopol. :D :D
Footnote: For our younger readers. Darren has made a humorous reference to the war regarding my age, and I have played along with it even to alluding to a battle in a war hundreds ( I think ) of years previous to the one he was on about. :D :D :D :D
"Whan was the Peloponnesian War, anyway?"
Excalibur
10-06-2008, 07:16 PM
Hi, Pot! Glass Houses? Stone? :p
Oh dear. You got me banged to rights there. :o :o Cheap keyboard.
:D Tee-Hee
"Whan was the Peloponnesian War, anyway?"
Whan? Whan? Thirty - fifteen. :p :p :D :D :D :D :D :D
BeerFunk
10-06-2008, 10:45 PM
I can (sort of) answer this one.
Nightclub managers don't allow DJ's to drink.
However, some nightclub managers allow DJ's to drink.
Not very helpful, but it's better to be clear.Actually, those two statements contradict each other, so I don't think it does clear things up! :D :confused:
I think I know what you mean by it - basically that the nightclub managers that let their DJs drink are in the minority?
A wise musician I know makes this comment (or something to this effect):
When people say someone is oversensitive, it is not the person that is oversensitive, it is those around them who are not sensitive enough.
Food for thought there. I happen to agree with him.Isn't that the complete reverse to the situation here though? :confused:
Dragonfly
11-06-2008, 07:31 AM
A wise musician I know makes this comment (or something to this effect):
When people say someone is oversensitive, it is not the person that is oversensitive, it is those around them who are not sensitive enough.
Food for thought there. I happen to agree with him.
I personally don't at all just a conflicting opinion if we all just said things that people wanted to hear all the time just incase we hurt their feelings no progress would ever be made in the world .
PropellerHeadCase
11-06-2008, 08:04 AM
Agreed - but there is a (literally) happy medium to be struck.
soundtracker
11-06-2008, 08:39 AM
As someone very wise once said - engage brain, before starting gob!
Javlingames
11-06-2008, 09:14 AM
Just read all this. Wow! I am a dj who wears waistcoats and uses ropelights.
You say you have used this joke before over a long period of time. I reckon you are lucky not to have been sued for slander or had a slap. It makes the assumption that all bar staff are on the fiddle like all dj's wear waistcoats and use ropelights - except you of course who are obviously a smart Alec. Lots of comedians insult people and people find it funny. It is cruel, cheap condesceding humour. Ocasionally those same comedians also get sued, challenged, heckled or have things thrown at them. I frequently make jokes about the bar staff at regular gigs I do but I would never make a joke about someone being dishonest. It is often the staff at a venue that will pass your name on for work; so I pays to have them on side.
On the subject of drink - I drink shandy at my gigs. Daz doesnt approve but I stay within legal driving limits and feel that is acceptable. Times and attitudes have changed over the years. Back in the 60's and 70's I often used to dj and drive when I had probably had too much. When I did club work it was definately accepted - although some clubs would not allow you to have a drink in the dj booth. In some European countries no one who is working is allowed to drink. If I am working a stage at a big venue I would not expect to take a drink on stage but in a party type gig it is different.
Well I must have been lucky for the past ten years, so must all of the comedians who have taken the mickey over the years.
I did state that i was cooking on gas, cooking on gas to me is being lively, jokey and relaxed. To some on here cooking on gas seems to mean 7 pints later, falling over and slurring their words on the mic. Also you guys are reading the joke on a forum and not hearing it in the way it was delivered or intended. I said earlier the girl who was the most upset sent me an apology via the owner so even she says she see's the funny side. It was a bar / club gig thus different to mobiles (as previously stated).
Boogie Boy
11-06-2008, 09:45 AM
Maybe she was 'ordered' to send an apology by the manager.
Next time you're at the venue a few words of apology to the woman probably wouldn't go amiss. Once someone at a gig has been offended, even if this has been done unintentionally, I see no alternative but to offer an apology of some sort, unless they were trying their hardest to wind you up.
soundtracker
11-06-2008, 09:51 AM
, unless they were trying their hardest to wind you up.
Don't you just hate people who do that?
Boogie Boy
11-06-2008, 10:04 AM
Don't you just hate people who do that?
Yes, I do.
Javlingames
11-06-2008, 10:13 AM
Yes boogie boy i certainly will offer my apologies, the last thing any of us want to do is offend people. I dont understand why the owner would make her apologise, surely his aleagence would be with his staff not a visiting DJ. Even though we do get on well, (i am doing his engagement party in a few weeks).
DazzyD
11-06-2008, 11:23 AM
Well I must have been lucky for the past ten years, so must all of the comedians who have taken the mickey over the years.
I did state that i was cooking on gas, cooking on gas to me is being lively, jokey and relaxed. To some on here cooking on gas seems to mean 7 pints later, falling over and slurring their words on the mic. Also you guys are reading the joke on a forum and not hearing it in the way it was delivered or intended. I said earlier the girl who was the most upset sent me an apology via the owner so even she says she see's the funny side. It was a bar / club gig thus different to mobiles (as previously stated).
An excellent local club act called "Fiddling Fantastic" (a duo with one on the keyboard and one on violin) used to open their shows with something along the lines of "We're fiddling Fantastic - we're a music group and not the club committee as some of you might have thought!". This always seemed to go down well and the clubs kept booking them so no-one seemed to take offence (well, they were really good and drew the crowds in so no-one probably dared complain!).
the last thing any of us want to do is offend people.
Still wasn't very wise to say it then, was it??
Javlingames
11-06-2008, 01:43 PM
Sam if you read my earlier post it all turned out fine, and the girls who had a pop at me at the end has apologised and said in hindsight it was amusing.
Please wake up and read the whole thread.
Solitaire Events Ltd
11-06-2008, 01:45 PM
Please stop having a pop at each other and keep to the thread.
Please stop having a pop at each other and keep to the thread.
I thought I was :o
Sam if you read my earlier post it all turned out fine, and the girls who had a pop at me at the end has apologised and said in hindsight it was amusing.
Please wake up and read the whole thread.
Maybe so.. But just because it "all turned out fine" doesn't mean it should be done in my opinion. But I think I have made my views clear and thus am backing out.. to avoid further confrontation.
And don't worry. I did read the whole thread :o
And I have to say it provided me with some amusment with what was otherwise a rubbish day yesterday :rolleyes:
Ciao.
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