Ultimax Shelf

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Just thought i would bring up this subject as it got me wondering.

Like many other DJ's i have the 1.2m Ultimax DJ Stand. For a while now I've used my own DIY style shelfs to use with this stand which has stoppers on the under side of the shelfs to prevent them from being knocked off (which not even the official shelfs don't have).

But recently i have noticed the boards are getting old and even becoming dangerous with screws coming through the top of the board so with abit of research i found these to replace them with.

http://www.ukdj.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=11007

But is it me or is this alot of money for two simple shelfs?

£24.48 each! so thats a few penny's under £50 for 2 wooden planks and abit of carpet. seems abit xtreme.

Does anyone else use this item? are they (somehow) worth their value?

[Vectis]

Does anyone else use this item? are they (somehow) worth their value?

Yes and no.

They are hardly planks of wood - I use the 1.7s and they're very flexible almost to the point of snapping under their own weight I fear sometimes!

When they wear out I'll be returning to home-made mdf shelves.

Oh, and they're supposed to 'stick' to the mounting rails with nothing more than half a dozen velcro sticky dots.

A bit of a disappointment IMHO.

[rob1963]

Surely home made shelves would be just as good but much cheaper?

You'd only need some MDF & carpet cloth. They'll even cut the MDF to the exact size you want in the hardware shop.

I certainly wouldn't pay way over the top for something that I could make myself...it doesn't make sense.

[spin mobile disco]

I think they are really only for people who don't want to do any works. I.E too busy but have lots of money to spare.
Most DIY shops around here will cut wood sections for you on the big saw for free. As most pices are about £6 -£10 for a pice big enough for making four ultimax shelves it is a lot cheaper. And some cheap black corded carpet from carpet shop is about £3 for 4 metres x 1 metre piece (linear roll) .

So if you want to save time make yourself, if you have money and prefer the easy way buy them ready made.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bit expensive.

If only i was any good at D.I.Y:bang: :bang: :bang:

Due to the fact D.I.Y is like another language to me does anyone know if there are any pre made shelfs out there for alot less than these Ultimax ones.

[tc1ooo]

Then you've got to get some glue to stick the carpet on with, it all adds up.

Screwfix do some good cheap spray adhesive, it's £2.97 a can, B&Q charge 3 times as much.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/26616/Sealants-Adhesives/Adhesives/Contact-Adhesives/No-Nonsense-Contact-Adhesive

[rob1963]

Then you've got to get some glue to stick the carpet on with

Unless you use adhesive-backed carpet, which would also be much quicker & easier to use.

:)

[djsteve10]

Ok I bought the one shelf just because I didn't want to go to all the work for carpeting it which is understandable, Once i recieved the shelf, I simply screwed 2 pieces of 2 X 1 timber to the underneath so when the shelf is placed on the stand the timber locks it into place and it doesn't go anywhere that way.

Try B&Q and just get some 12MM MDF cut to size and paint it black if you don't want to go down the Ultimax shelf route but I only bought the shelf as I knew it was right for the stand.

[tc1ooo]

Unless you use adhesive-backed carpet, which would also be much quicker & easier to use.

:)

Yes I've seen some on ebay, quite cheap for smaller things, but works out quite pricey when covering speakers.

[JAMdisco]

I bought some laminate top from our local hardware store (Focus). Cost about £5 and enough to make 2 shelves. I haven't bothered carpeting them as I reckon they'll get too tatty too quickly.
Easy to clean too with them being laminate tops, just wipe down with a damp cloth.
Same as above, I have small bits of timber screwed underneath to stop them moving around.

There's no way I would buy them when they are dead easy to make (and I'm no DIY expert) :)

[Adam_F]

Ultimax have now discontinued the shelves. As they don't make their own MDF, it was expensive for them to bring them in too, so have decided against them.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

I think they are really only for people who don't want to do any works. I.E too busy but have lots of money to spare.


Not sure about all of that statement, but have 2 of them.

[Excalibur]

Plywood, roof batten, paint. Very easy to make, very cheap, and almost indestructible.

[UltraBeat Entertainment]

Thanks for all your information regarding this.

Looks like i will be heading to my local DIY store to pick up some type of shelving or MDF wood soon then. Don't think I'll bother with the carpet bit as its harder to clean and purely there to make it look pretty.

So would i be right in saying the dimensions I'm after are:
Depth: 410mm
Width: 1.2m

What kind of thickness should i be looking for?

[JAMdisco]

Thanks for all your information regarding this.

Looks like i will be heading to my local DIY store to pick up some type of shelving or MDF wood soon then. Don't think I'll bother with the carpet bit as its harder to clean and purely there to make it look pretty.

So would i be right in saying the dimensions I'm after are:
Depth: 410mm
Width: 1.2m

What kind of thickness should i be looking for?

Depends on the material, If you're using MDF then I reckon about 6-8mm should be ok. Remeber though, MDF can be quite heavy. The laminate top I use is about 6mm and I reckon I could stand on it once in place (not gonna try it though).

Make sure you can fit it after you have assembled the stand as it's a bit tricky trying to fit it all together with the shelf in place (as I found out originally)

[Excalibur]

Thanks for all your information regarding this.

Looks like i will be heading to my local DIY store to pick up some type of shelving or MDF wood soon then. Don't think I'll bother with the carpet bit as its harder to clean and purely there to make it look pretty.

So would i be right in saying the dimensions I'm after are:
Depth: 410mm
Width: 1.2m

What kind of thickness should i be looking for?

Don't get too thick wood. The two 2"x1" battens you will put underneath will stiffen it up more than adequately. ( Long edge down, of course) 6mm ply is quite strong enough, and easy to work with. Ronseal Black MDF paint is what you need, but beware it's £15ish per tin at B&Q! :eek: It will however cover lots of other projects. :D :D

[Danno13]

I've never seen the point of them. Stick your flightcase(s) on and use the lid(s) to create shelves, easy!

[JAMdisco]

I've never seen the point of them. Stick your flightcase(s) on and use the lid(s) to create shelves, easy!

But not very stable, very easy to knock them off. Plus things can fall between the gaps. A 'desk top' style shelf is much better IMO.

[Excalibur]

I've never seen the point of them. Stick your flightcase(s) on and use the lid(s) to create shelves, easy!


But not very stable, very easy to knock them off. Plus things can fall between the gaps. A 'desk top' style shelf is much better IMO.

Agreed Justin. I saw a rig like that recently, and thought it was a very unsuitable arrangement.

[JAMdisco]

Agreed Justin. I saw a rig like that recently, and thought it was a very unsuitable arrangement.

Anyone I know? :)

[Excalibur]

Anyone I know? :)

Absolutely not! ;) ;) :D

[JAMdisco]

Absolutely not! ;) ;) :D

:confused:

[Danno13]

I must be far less clumsy than you lot then :D Never had any problems, i'll try and grab a pic tonight. I stick all the things like hard drives, radio mics below on top of the amp rack, or the lid for my playout box (which sits beside the amp rack) and then have the amp rack lids above next to the playout box for sticking mics, headphones, pen & paper etc. on - I even put drinks on there!

[JAMdisco]

I even put drinks on there!

:eek: And I thought I was 'naughty' for putting them on my stand.

[Excalibur]

I must be far less clumsy than you lot then :D Never had any problems, i'll try and grab a pic tonight. I stick all the things like hard drives, radio mics below on top of the amp rack, or the lid for my playout box (which sits beside the amp rack) and then have the amp rack lids above next to the playout box for sticking mics, headphones, pen & paper etc. on - I even put drinks on there!

And that's an absolute no-no. :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Adam_F]

What kind of thickness should i be looking for?


I'd say 12mm MDF

If your going to paint it, use a Multi Surface primer, or a specific MDF primer first (International do a decent range, available from Homebase). Otherwise it'll look :Censored: and will always peel.

[JAMdisco]

I'd say 12mm MDF

If your going to paint it, use a Multi Surface primer, or a specific MDF primer first (International do a decent range, available from Homebase). Otherwise it'll look :Censored: and will always peel.

12mm MDF? That would weigh an absolute ton!

[Excalibur]

I'd say 12mm MDF

If your going to paint it, use a Multi Surface primer, or a specific MDF primer first (International do a decent range, available from Homebase). Otherwise it'll look :Censored: and will always peel.

Sorry to disagree, but I disagree totally. I refer you to my previous post. The Ronseal requires no primer, as it's a purpose made product. If you use two battens, then 6mm ply is thick enough, 9mm if you prefer. MDF does not take kindly to knocks, or wear and tear on the edges.

[One Vision]

I have used 4mm plywood and run 1" x 1" timber all around the internal so sit tight between the bars, then spray glued felt cloth over and glued underneath.
The 1" x 1" is glued and screwed, with the screws countersunk and then the holes filled, sanded then covered.
These are solid and light after all their only about 15" deep so doesn't have to be heavy gauge as the heavy gear will no doubt be sat over the bars anyway.

[Dragonfly]

i made one for mine piece of thick mdf tin of black paint and some varnish fixed by of course your friend and mine .......veeeeeellllllllcccccrrrroooo !!!!!

cost about 8-9 quid id say in total??

[Excalibur]

I have used 4mm plywood and run 1" x 1" timber all around the internal so sit tight between the bars, then spray glued felt cloth over and glued underneath.
The 1" x 1" is glued and screwed, with the screws countersunk and then the holes filled, sanded then covered.
These are solid and light after all their only about 15" deep so doesn't have to be heavy gauge as the heavy gear will no doubt be sat over the bars anyway.

That sounds like the work of a man who wants a first class job. I'd have used 2"x1" but other than that, no argument. :D

[soundmaster mobile disco]

I bought one for £25 earlier this year.I now have a template to make another one myself.I do find the shelf very handy.

[One Vision]

That sounds like the work of a man who wants a first class job. I'd have used 2"x1" but other than that, no argument. :D

1" x 1" is cheaper, am a Virgo has to look right :D

[Excalibur]

1" x 1" is cheaper, am a Virgo has to look right :D

If it's PSE, or PAR, then my 2x1 is cheaper,as it's rough sawn. :p :D

[One Vision]

If it's PSE, or PAR, then my 2x1 is cheaper,as it's rough sawn. :p :D

You rough ass :D

[Excalibur]

You rough ass :D

Ah yes, but in my shed live three planes, two surforms, a belt sander, a power planer, and a bench power planer. ;) :p :D :D

Edit: four chainsaws, three mitre saws,two saw benches, and a circular saw in a pear tree.

[One Vision]

Ah yes, but in my shed live three planes, two surforms, a belt sander, a power planer, and a bench power planer. ;) :p :D :D

Edit: four chainsaws, three mitre saws,two saw benches, and a circular saw in a pear tree.

:rofl:

[rob1963]

Edit: four chainsaws, three mitre saws,two saw benches, and a circular saw in a pear tree.

Doesn't the circular saw in your pear tree get rusty when it rains?

:confused:

[gaza]

I also made mine. I have 2 sections made of plywood with batern edges, to stop them moving. i painted mine with silver hamerite paint.The 2 sections sit on the top rail end to end with no gaps in them, i made them a 2 sections for ease of carying.

[digga]

Thanks you lot!!! I've just ordered one of these along with the UltiMax 1.2m stand with TrussLite. Sounds like I should have just made my own :(

Have any of you got this stand? What's it like?

[Excalibur]

Thanks you lot!!! I've just ordered one of these along with the UltiMax 1.2m stand with TrussLite. Sounds like I should have just made my own :(

Have any of you got this stand? What's it like?

You should have. ;) :D

It's the best available, and I think you've got the best top bar. :D

[digga]

Cool.

So next question is; how does everyone wire their top lighting bars? Pre-wired trunking? cable spider? Extension leads? I'm just being curious, as I currently have a cable spider with a bulgin plug that runs to a home made switch box.

What is the prefered method?