due to certain people

[501damian501]

due to certain people complaining about mircophone shocks and a past thread on here, i am thinking of finding a little nice idea, or even designing one, no stealing my ideas please people lol, i was thinking of a nice rubber sleeve for a microphone like you get for the wii remotes, of course in a clear colour, or a nice range of different colours, even pink for darren :D , maybe a good idea or not, should i get a patent on it NOW :beer1: damian


p.s maybe its sumwhere already, heres a patent for sumthing like it http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6671382.html

[spin mobile disco]

never had a shock from a mic myself, all my mics are xlr so maybe this helps.

[nigelwright7557]

due to certain people complaining about mircophone shocks and a past thread on here, i am thinking of finding a little nice idea, or even designing one, no stealing my ideas please people lol, i was thinking of a nice rubber sleeve for a microphone like you get for the wii remotes, of course in a clear colour, or a nice range of different colours, even pink for darren :D , maybe a good idea or not, should i get a patent on it NOW :beer1: damian


p.s maybe its sumwhere already, heres a patent for sumthing like it http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6671382.html

Cant get a shock off a plastic mic !
Good old Maplins, 3 mics for £15.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Cant get a shock off a plastic mic !
Good old Maplins, 3 mics for £15.

Please don't tell me you use these to DJ with?! :eek:

[501damian501]

Cant get a shock off a plastic mic !
Good old Maplins, 3 mics for £15.

how budget are you nigel :D

[A1DL]

I guess we're talking shocks from phantom.

There happens to be a current thread on BR on this very topic...
http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=29948

[nigelwright7557]

how budget are you nigel :D

You dont need a good mic unless your singing and need a wide frequency range.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

You dont need a good mic unless your singing and need a wide frequency range.

What complete toss.

I give up. :bang:

[501damian501]

now now darren lol, unless your singing, what about 250plus people, watching you while you are introducing a first dance for a newly wed couple ?

[nigelwright7557]

What complete toss.

I give up. :bang:

People can understand perfectly what I am saying so why spend more ?

Having said that I have seen discos with Shure mics and I couldnt understand a word he was saying.

The mic is just a small part of the chain, the amp and speakers have to be giving a good sound too.

[501damian501]

maybe its down to the person using it to have a clear voice and not add to much effects

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Sorry Nigel, but there are standards and using a £5 mic is a complete joke.

There are a lot of decent sounding mics for around the £50 mark and there is a marked difference between a plastic Maplin toy and a £100 Shure/Beyer/Sennheiser etc mic.

A decent sounding mic is so important, even if you only say a few words.

[501damian501]

budget shures for me, never let me down, am sure ive still got my original pg microphone i got bought for me when i was just the prime age of 13, am sure it were the PG, correct me if am wrong

[rob1963]

I've never got a shock, but some of my punters have...as soon as they heard what I played.

[501damian501]

so what do you think about this idea then people worth a blast in the dragons den ?

[Corabar Steve]

I'm suprised you don't make your own Nige

[DazzyD]

While you're at it, Nigel, can you do some for my metal flight cases? They have the karaoke multi-changers in them along with some Voco-Pro kit and I'm often getting shocks off them due the build up of static in them (mind you, I seem to get shocks of lots of things - cars, radiators, gas & electric bills!) ;)

[Javlingames]

Never had an electric shock from a mic before, but if you are having a problem damo give your idea a go and let us know how you get on, the results could be 'shocking'

sorry about that hehe

[Dragonfly]

People can understand perfectly what I am saying so why spend more ?

Having said that I have seen discos with Shure mics and I couldnt understand a word he was saying.

The mic is just a small part of the chain, the amp and speakers have to be giving a good sound too.


Sorry Nigel, but there are standards and using a £5 mic is a complete joke.

There are a lot of decent sounding mics for around the £50 mark and there is a marked difference between a plastic Maplin toy and a £100 Shure/Beyer/Sennheiser etc mic.

A decent sounding mic is so important, even if you only say a few words.


As a small green pointy eared tune spinning jedi once said ......






EVERYTHING MATTERS !!!!!




:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[CRAZY K]

I've never got a shock, but come of my punters have...as soon as they heard what I played.

Or you gave them a quote for a Disco

:Laugh: :Laugh: :Laugh:

CRAZY K

[A1DL]

so what do you think about this idea then people worth a blast in the dragons den ?

Personally I think you've found the answer to a question that hasn't been asked.

Within live sound engineering, shocks from phantom are rare, at the mic end very rare - much more likely to come from touching a damaged XLR cable on stage rather than a "faulty" mic, where provided the screen was intact on the cable, you would not receive a shock as the phantom would short when a live pin came into contact with the casing.

You cannot add secondary double insulation to all touchable parts of the mic without dramatically changing it's acoustic properties.

Within the DJ market, there are probably 99 dynamics being used for every 1 condensor using 48v. In other words within the DJ industry, the market would be miniscule, if it even exists.

Also, as condensors come in dozens of shapes and sizes, your rubber sheath would also need to come in many shapes and sizes, whilst allowing entry of the XLR and not obstructing the head.

You will also find a very similar product has been sold successfully in entertainment venues up and down the country for many years.

For that reason, I won't be investing and declare myself "Out" :p

[djdarren]

the problem is more than likely the other way around.

your not getting an electrical shock from the mic however you are discharging any static in you down the mic since it is grounded..... after all how many places have nylon based carpets.

so putting a plastic shield on the mic may not be the better solution as you will not get a discharge shock on you hands but rather on your lips from the metal part on the top of the mic that you cant cover.......... owch!

[501damian501]

ok then maybe these shocks are rare, but it would also act as a grip for the singer, how many of you lot have wii's, the type of thing is just like you see on one of their remotes, i cant see this altering the mircophone as it would not go anywhere near the shield, infact it would end just under where the shield starts,also with a cut out for the button, i might just give it a blast, cheers damian

[A1DL]

how many of you lot have wii's, the type of thing is just like you see on one of their remotes, i cant see this altering the mircophone as it would not go anywhere near the shield,

I can't visualise what you are talking about.
Any chance of a picture/diagram, Damian?
Is this a radio mic? What do you mean by the "remote" - the transmitter or receiver? :confused:

[DazzyD]

I can't visualise what you are talking about.
Any chance of a picture/diagram, Damian?
Is this a radio mic? What do you mean by the "remote" - the transmitter or receiver? :confused:

By "remote" I think Damo is actually referring to the handheld controller for the Nintendo Wii games console as opposed to an actual mic. He's seen the rubber grip covers that you can get for these controllers and is transferring this idea to the use of microphones. It might actually be a good idea for cosmetic reasons as the acid in peoples fingerprints (especially sweaty ones) can damage the paint used in microphones (admittedly over a long period of time). Such a cover would help avoid this damage and maintain the gleaming look of a new mic.

What I would say, though, that the Wii rubber grip covers are designed to prevent the controller slipping out of the users hand when it's being thrashed around mercilessly. Microphones should never have to suffer such abuse and, therefore, the risk of slipping is greatly reduced.

[501damian501]

would you buy one ?

[DazzyD]

I use fairly big radio mics so a standard sized mic cover wouldn't be appropriate. Although I do think it could be a potentially good idea but not for the purposes of reducing the risk of shock. These cases are few and far between and, I suspect, as a result of static build-up in someones body rather than directly from the mic.

A cover for cosmetic reasons? Possibly - there are all sorts of gimmicky gadgets out there. That led-lit mic stand springs to mind. It's a talking point for those that haven't seen them before. Your mic cover could possibly have a picture or pattern printed on that would also be a talking point so, although it wouldn't suit me directly, I can see the potential.

But I'm not gonna make any Dragon's Den-esque comments - they've been done to death already! And for that reason, .....!

[501damian501]

:D ok Theo Paphitis :D