70 decibel

[DJ INDIE]

Hi all,

Just had an odd message on my phone - my mate was saying there are talks of the government considering 70decibel limits for licensed premises!

In the same way as i think this is must be rubbish, I can see it being true in this daft country!

I'll try and find out some more info - has anyone heard anything of this?

[Danno13]

Must be rubbish.. that can't be far off the level of quiet conversation...

[nigelwright7557]

Hi all,

Just had an odd message on my phone - my mate was saying there are talks of the government considering 70decibel limits for licensed premises!

In the same way as i think this is must be rubbish, I can see it being true in this daft country!

I'll try and find out some more info - has anyone heard anything of this?

I believe it is already law to not go above 85dB.
This is because a disco is also a place of work.

Bands arent as bad as they used to be.
I saw Quo in 1977 and couldnt hear for 3 days afterwards !
Saw them a couple of years back and the sound level was just right.

[Danno13]

I believe it is already law to not go above 85dB.
This is because a disco is also a place of work.

85dB averaged over the length of the workers shift, so you'd have to be pretty loud for your 2-3 hours of dancing time. Plus the bar will generally be a fair distance from the dancefloor.

Plus, unless you employ the bar staff it's not your responsibility.

Just as well there are forums like this where you can get correct information eh?

[A1DL]

Mr. Mogale posted a link to this on sj yesterday...

interesting reading.

http://www.makeitlouder.com/Decibel%20Level%20Chart.txt

[DJ INDIE]

apparently this new (mental) idea was leaked to the press last week, hidden in an agenda to tackle binge drinking and drunken behaviour, as its links this to loud music and entertainment to anti social behaviour.

apparently no exact limit has been decided, but it is suggested 70db is an acceptable level. :confused: :eek:


so dont forget next time you go out - no boozin', no loud music, no smiling, and absolutely no enjoying yourselves .......:)

[Andy Westcott]

Trouble is, due to the nature of 'decibels', you need to also state the position the reading was taken for this to have any meaning.

Last weekend I did a teenagers' disco, and the bar manager said that although they didn't yet have a sound limiter fitted, a limit of 80dB had been suggested.

What a pointless thing to stipulate!
At what position is this reading supposed to be taken? Out in the car park or right in front of the speakers?

I do wish some people would educate themselves regarding sound pressure levels, what the readings mean and where to take them. I'm assuming here that some office worker had read some literature and arrived at the 80dB figure, then tried to apply it with insufficient knowledge of the subject.

[nigelwright7557]

Trouble is, due to the nature of 'decibels', you need to also state the position the reading was taken for this to have any meaning.
.

Surely common sense says in front of the speakers where people are dancing ?

Perhaps they should use the 1 metre rule which is used for specifying speakers SPL?

[Danno13]

But the staff of the venue aren't going to be on the dancefloor.. and thats who the regulations concern, not the guests.

[nigelwright7557]

But the staff of the venue aren't going to be on the dancefloor.. and thats who the regulations concern, not the guests.

You have answered your own question then.
The bar should be the reference point.

[Corabar Steve]

You have answered your own question then.
The bar should be the reference point.

Dan didn't ask the question

Should've gone to Specsavers Nigel

[Andy Westcott]

Unless it's an issue concerning noise pollution outside the venue, in which case sound insulation effectiveness would come into play and the reading would then be taken outside. 80dB is perhaps a little excessive for an outside reading, but 70dB is not.

As I said, the reference position needs to be stated. 90dB in the dancing area is not overly loud - you would easily be able to talk above it, therefore I doubt very much that's where the reading would be taken.