BOSE L 1 systems

[Grahame Case]

just popped along to my local friendly stockist of BOSE systems, and even though i never got to Hear the L1 system, (they said to come back in the new year) I am already very impressed with the compact size of the MK2,

Now, my question for our more experienced L1 operatives - what size of crowd would 1 of these with two bass bin modules and the tone match system cover?

i like the idea of equal distributed volume throughout the place.

and in future is it possible to hook up 2 or more of these to a rig to provide extra coverage?

[nigelwright7557]

what size of crowd would 1 of these with two bass bin modules and the tone match system cover?



5 foot 2 or over :D

[Tom]

From pictures I have seen on here, you would need 2 subs per goal post so that 4 subs and 2 goal posts.

I have heard these systems before and they do cut it nicely.

I have heard them at the NADJ AGM trade show and they are rather loud for speech but not sure on music.

Does look the muts nuts mind you. :D

[Penfold42]

Sorry but don't like them.....I've heard them....but don't like them. :)

[nigelwright7557]

Sorry but don't like them.....I've heard them....but don't like them. :)

An ex girlfriend of mine was into Bose and she had an amazing system, it was incredibly loud for its size and sounded spot on. I guess thats what you pay for.

[Penfold42]

An ex girlfriend of mine was into Bose and she had an amazing system, it was incredibly loud for its size and sounded spot on. I guess thats what you pay for.

That maybe the case....I've heard other Bose stuff which are also good....

I just don't like the L1....not for me.

[nigelwright7557]

That maybe the case....I've heard other Bose stuff which are also good....

I just don't like the L1....not for me.

What didnt you like ?

[Penfold42]

What didnt you like ?

Look like stick insect's....or goal post's.......it's just the look.
Sound wise it's fine.....just the looks.

[Silver]

Firstly I would suggest you spend some time having a look at Bose users forum, it's not in competition to here so I can't see a problem in suggesting it. http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/867107664

The stories and photos on there will amaze you, some dj's do up to 250 people with one LI, 2 B1's and importantly a T1. LOOK for the photos they are stunning.

I did a wedding last week for about 130 in a room that could comfortably hold 200 and I didn't get above 40% output and the people loved the sound. The clarity, quality, coverage everything about the system. All night there was a table full of people just to my left that had no problem chatting and enjoying their night without a speaker blasting in their ears. I was chatting to people a couple of feet in front of the speaker with people dancing happily 30 or 40 feet away.

I've had mine a couple of months now and I can hand on heart say I've had more compliments on my sound system in that time than in years and years of Mackies and Cerwin Vegas before.

To set the system up you are talking literally no more than 4 to 5 minutes, packing down is even quicker! :)

If you want PM me with a phone number and I'll happily have a chat about them. Can't chat this week STILL suffering from Man flu. :D

[Grahame Case]

cheers Silver


PM on the way

[OllieJames]

Sounds petty, but i just don't like the look of them.

I've heard them, as my mum sung with her trio at some venue where they were using some. They sounded nice, i just don't like the look of them.

[Grahame Case]

Sounds petty, but i just don't like the look of them.

I've heard them, as my mum sung with her trio at some venue where they were using some. They sounded nice, i just don't like the look of them.


the idea behind them is to be unobtrusive - and provide correct and audible volume levels throughout the venue -

i reckon they would be best suited for weddings and corporate events where image is everything- but i can't see a problem with putting them out for a 18th birthday party or something similar.

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

but i can't see a problem with putting them out for a 18th birthday party or something similar.

Have you heard them?

There isn't a great deal of bass and they definately wouldn't cope with any loud R&B etc.

[Grahame Case]

Have you heard them?

There isn't a great deal of bass and they definately wouldn't cope with any loud R&B etc.

surely though in such a case you would choose to use 2 extra Bass modules per L1, so 4 bass to 1 L1

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

surely though in such a case you would choose to use 2 extra Bass modules per L1, so 4 bass to 1 L1

You haven't heard them then....:p :D

I know people who use these system and say that even 4 is not enough. It's not the right kind of bass for that type of music or event.

[Grahame Case]

You haven't heard them then....:p :D

I know people who use these system and say that even 4 is not enough. It's not the right kind of bass for that type of music or event.

well, in that case i think i would safely revert to my backup PA of my :Censored: Prosound 15 inch cabs with a 1000w amp..

don't like or carry much R&B - or Rap [sic]

unfortunately i've been unable to get a demo of the L1s - await that in the new year

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

well, in that case i think i would safely revert to my backup PA of my :Censored: Prosound 15 inch cabs with a 1000w amp..

don't like or carry much R&B - or Rap [sic]

unfortunately i've been unable to get a demo of the L1s - await that in the new year

I've heard them in several different surroundings and the clarity is stunning as is the dispersion. If you are just doing small to medium venues and mainly corporates and classy weddings, then I think the look and sound is spot on.

However, if you are doing anything with big beats and lots of bass, I reckon you'd need different subs as these just don't go low enough or have enough oomph IMO.

[Grahame Case]

I've heard them in several different surroundings and the clarity is stunning as is the dispersion. If you are just doing small to medium venues and mainly corporates and classy weddings, then I think the look and sound is spot on.

However, if you are doing anything with big beats and lots of bass, I reckon you'd need different subs as these just don't go low enough or have enough oomph IMO.

funny you should mention that, I do aim to tap into the wedding and corporate market - because very few companies in Edinburgh specialise in that sort of side of things - there are about 4 very big multi operator companies who have a lions share of the party nights.

i don't feel i can confidently offer a proper service like that until i have the correct gear - so am picking up party work wherever possibl at the moment to fund purchase of new equipment.

[Cj_The_Dj]

But what happens when drunk girls want to dance around then :)

[Jiggles]

Thats a bonus or a problem :D

[Shaun]

I know people who use these system and say that even 4 is not enough. It's not the right kind of bass for that type of music or event.

The lack of bass is the one point that has held me back from making a point of going to hear them demo'd.

The Bose would be perfect for the high-end weddings I do, but they sound like they would be seriously lacking for the larger and youth events I do. I really need a good "all rounder" system that can cope with everything I throw at them. I do love the look of the bose though. :o

[Tony Scott]

Line array is a great concept giving a very clean, uniform sound as long as the individual components(transducers) are not pushed.

A few years ago at Global Gathering I heard a line array that made me weep, on paper it should have been awsome but it was being abused and was distorting so badly people were leaving the arena in droves, line array is not as forgiving as point source when being pushed.

For an 18th birthday playing D&B, Hardcore, RnB etc you need something that can take a bit of abuse, not sure the L1 would be the best choice for this purpose. :)

[Grahame Case]

the option is always out there to Hire in a PA system for the evening - it doesn't cost much for a simple but good sounding passive/active system that can be driven for the more shall we say energetic parties

[Silver]

I've heard them in several different surroundings and the clarity is stunning as is the dispersion. If you are just doing small to medium venues and mainly corporates and classy weddings, then I think the look and sound is spot on.

However, if you are doing anything with big beats and lots of bass, I reckon you'd need different subs as these just don't go low enough or have enough oomph IMO.

But have you heard them when they've been used with a T1? Because on the T1 there is now a specialist dj pre set programme that seriously rocks the bass. I've used it in pubs full of the younger set and I've had no problems at all. The barmen said they could feel the bass hitting them.

You wouldn't be doing a gig like this with 4 Mackie 450s and a couple of bass bins! :) http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/867107664/m/5941073123

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

But have you heard them when they've been used with a T1? Because on the T1 there is now a specialist dj pre set programme that seriously rocks the bass. I've used it in pubs full of the younger set and I've had no problems at all. The barmen said they could feel the bass hitting them.

You wouldn't be doing a gig like this with 4 Mackie 450s and a couple of bass bins! :) http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/867107664/m/5941073123

Why would you use Bose for a gig like that? There are many more suitable applications that are cheaper, better sounding and a lot easier to put together.

[Silver]

Why would you use Bose for a gig like that? There are many more suitable applications that are cheaper, better sounding and a lot easier to put together.

Maybe Bose are what he likes, has confidence in them. It's like he said, he went out 400 feet and Bose was still rocking the house. That's one of the big things with Bose, the way the sound carries.

I used mine last night at a golf club, with people less than eight feet away at the nearest table and the place was rocking but never once did they ask me to turn it down, chatting away merrily and yet the people at the farthest end of the room were bopping away. The photo is 'stretched' the table is on the right (just) with the table cloth on is the nearest.

I know I sound now like a well worn record (remember them!?) but they just blow me away. The comments just keep on coming. :D

[Tom]

You wouldn't be doing a gig like this with 4 Mackie 450s and a couple of bass bins! :) http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/867107664/m/5941073123


From that link, the output was 117db at 80% volume. Thats near maxed out. 1 Mackie SRM 450 v2 is 124db SPL. Which if you compare the two, a single mackie 450 would be louder than the whle Bose system. I know there would be a serious lack of bass but this is where the subs come in.

At a guess, I think 2x SRM 450 and 2x 1801 subs could hit about 130db max output, which is quite a lot loder than 117db from the Bose.

Don't get me wrong, the Bose sound does travel, but I have only heard a Bose system Inside so can't really comment on how they perform outside.

I used my Mackie V2's with my DB sub and was able to cover a very larg field for a local school summer fun day. There is no way a Bose could of done that.

[Silver]

There is no way a Bose could of done that.

You have proof?

400 feet is the length of four football pitches. The venue was also 600 feet wide, with the sound fantastic all round.

I've used Mackies for the past couple of years or so until I upgraded to Bose. I can comment on fact that Bose carries appreciably better than Mackies, even when I used my RCF ART705 bass bin (800 watt). I'm not 'dissing' Mackies in any way they are good, very good.

However, I have used Bose in the same venues as I used the Mackies in and in a couple of places I now don't need to use the house speakers because of the improved sound coverage. Sorry but never in a million years does the Mackie sound carry better than Bose.

[Tom]

You have proof?

400 feet is the length of four football pitches. The venue was also 600 feet wide, with the sound fantastic all round.



I dont have any proof to back up my claim no.

According to this link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4200666.stm). A football pitch is about 100-130 yards. Lets say 100 yards to start off with. 100 yards is 300ft. So 2 football pitches if 600ft. That is a very large distance for something like Bose to cover.

So what you are saying is that all these large touring companys should be using Bose instead of mega bucks on speakers like Void, Martin, EV, Turbosound who have everything hornloaded to maximise SPL and distance covered.

[Silver]

I dont have any proof to back up my claim no.

According to this link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4200666.stm). A football pitch is about 100-130 yards. Lets say 100 yards to start off with. 100 yards is 300ft. So 2 football pitches if 600ft. That is a very large distance for something like Bose to cover.

So what you are saying is that all these large touring companys should be using Bose instead of mega bucks on speakers like Void, Martin, EV, Turbosound who have everything hornloaded to maximise SPL and distance covered.

Sorry you are right, 100 yards not feet for a football pitch, I stand corrected. Tell I used to play rugby!

Well if you look further down that chaps post he has laid out the dimensions plus how powerful the sound was at different distances, 400 feet wedding reception volume. I also have never heard Bose outside, so everything regarding this is purely anecdotal.

All I know is I have noticed a massive improvement in my sound coverage, my audience enjoyment and comfort, comments and the amount of business cards handed out!

There is no perfect speaker for all occasions, too big, too small, too loud. not loud enough etc. etc.

I love mine and for me that is what's all about.

As ALWAYS whenever Bose is mentioned it polarizes people, ALWAYS! :D

[Danno13]

He doesn't quantify the 117dB with a distance measured from (unless he meant 400ft as in the previous sentance (if he had used any punctuation that is) ???).. so it's meaningless. SPL ratings for speakers are usually measured a 1m away.. so if the 117dB was say 50m away (unlikely) then it's massively louder than a pair of Mackies!!

[Silver]

He doesn't quantify the 117dB with a distance measured from (unless he meant 400ft as in the previous sentance (if he had used any punctuation that is) ???).. so it's meaningless. SPL ratings for speakers are usually measured a 1m away.. so if the 117dB was say 50m away (unlikely) then it's massively louder than a pair of Mackies!!

Danno, very true, if he was hitting 117db at 400 feet, which, as he says is 'wedding reception' volume then your theory stacks up. He also says at 200 feet distance it was AC DC volume, surely that must be more than 117db?

[Grahame Case]

Danno, very true, if he was hitting 117db at 400 feet, which, as he says is 'wedding reception' volume then your theory stacks up. He also says at 200 feet distance it was AC DC volume, surely that must be more than 117db?

AC/DC volume would be a lot lot louder than 117DB -

I'm sure (correct me if this is incorrect - i'm not too good with the line array technology) if you are using a line array of speakers like that the dispersion will be a lot wider and in turn louder everywhere, as the 2 separate fields of the dual left and right channels will combine to form as one.


Silver, how many L1's do you own?

[Silver]

AC/DC volume would be a lot lot louder than 117DB -

I'm sure (correct me if this is incorrect - i'm not too good with the line array technology) if you are using a line array of speakers like that the dispersion will be a lot wider and in turn louder everywhere, as the 2 separate fields of the dual left and right channels will combine to form as one.


Silver, how many L1's do you own?

Nor am I an expert Grahame! :)

I've got ... 1 L1, 2 B1's and a T1 (Tonematch). There's quite a big thread on the Bose forum about the T1 and the benefits it offers to djs, thread started by Scott Hanna, about the third thread on the first page.

The dispersion is a heck of a lot wider, I've gone 180 degrees of mine to test it and you can still hear it crystal clear as if you were standing a couple of feet in front of it. That is one of the reasons in a couple of my gigs I now no longer need to hook up to their speakers.

I've only got the one at the moment, quite simply cash, or lack of it stops me from getting the next one plus two more B1's.

Having said that at the moment one is all I need. As I've said earlier one L1 with 2 B1's and the T1 is easily capable, with capacity to spare, to do 150 - 200 people. I don't often do gigs bigger than that. Some users on the forum always use two for the quality, I suppose a lot will depend on bookings and the type you play in.

At last I think I'm recovering from the MAN FLU, it's only been 6 weeks! http://planetsmilies.net/ill-violated-dead-smiley-9437.gif Hopefully I will be fit to call you tomorrow :D

[Grahame Case]

excellent, look forward to it.

I'm thinking first of all to kit myself out with the t1, l1, and 2 b1s - then when money allows purchase a second set..

Just off the phone from DJ Silver - many thanks buddy, your insight has been wonderful.

Seems the L1 would be the ideal system for my needs.

Jolly Good!

hope i wake to find it under the tree tomorrow!

[OllieJames]

hope i wake to find it under the tree tomorrow!

Santa could hide it behind the tree :D :D

[Silver]

Santa could hide it behind the tree :D :D
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[Grahame Case]

Alas, Santa forgot my L1 system!

must be the credit crunch.

[Penfold42]

Alas, Santa forgot my L1 system!
Good, good.......maybe go out and get a proper system now then! :sj:


must be the credit crunch.

http://www.cartoon-secrets.com/Photos/Hong-Kong-Phooey-cartoon.jpg

[Grahame Case]

Good, good.......maybe go out and get a proper system now then! :sj:


now now,

if i wasn't buying a BOSE L1 system i reckon i had sold myself a BOSE 802/302 rig with 2 Crown amps and a system controller.

[deltic]

made a major purchase today

2 x bose L1's
4 x bose B1's

been thinking about it for a while can't wait to get them out for nye gig

[Grahame Case]

made a major purchase today

2 x bose L1's
4 x bose B1's

been thinking about it for a while can't wait to get them out for nye gig

Lucky Man

i can't afford them at the moment so looks like i'll be victim to the 8% price hike in January/ February

let us know how they perform.

[Silver]

made a major purchase today

2 x bose L1's
4 x bose B1's

been thinking about it for a while can't wait to get them out for nye gig

Don't forget your T1! http://http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/portable_amplification_systems/accessories/l1_tonematch_acc.jsp Anyway many congratulations, I know you'll be blown away by the sound. :clap2:

[Grahame Case]

Just bought myself a T1,L1, and 2 B1s - I'd like to thank my parents for coughing up the extra money to let me purchase it at the current price.

should be with me on Tuesday

[blitz]

hope you like it Grahame, did you get a demo before buying?

[Grahame Case]

hope you like it Grahame, did you get a demo before buying?

admittedly I'm buying blind and deaf, mainly working on the premise that I've used and heard BOSE professional Audio equipment before, and it has always been good.

If i'm not happy, Under the distance selling rules I can return them within 14 days

[Silver]

Just bought myself a T1,L1, and 2 B1s - I'd like to thank my parents for coughing up the extra money to let me purchase it at the current price.

should be with me on Tuesday

Good on ya mate. Good old mum and dad :)

Have fun and enjoy! http://planetsmilies.net/music-smiley-1306.gif

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

admittedly I'm buying blind and deaf, mainly working on the premise that I've used and heard BOSE professional Audio equipment before, and it has always been good.

If i'm not happy, Under the distance selling rules I can return them within 14 days

Not if it's a business sale.

[blitz]

Grahame your a brave man lol, I just hope your not disapointed with it, i would say it is a diffrent kind of sound to most other bose pa tho so you might be in for a surprise.

If you don't mind me asking. what price did you pick it up for (ball park figure will do)

[Grahame Case]

£2,200

[deltic]

just set up tonight with the new bose sounds awesome not the usual boom & ting
maybe post some pics tomorrow

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Andy, Grahame - Did you go for the Model I or Model II?

[deltic]

Andy, Grahame - Did you go for the Model I or Model II?

model 1 -will post pic in gallery later

[Grahame Case]

Andy, Grahame - Did you go for the Model I or Model II?

Steve - Model II - weighed up my needs and requirements and decided the Model II would serve me better and also be future proofed if i wanted to add on items to my system.

Not sure how long the MK1 will be with us.

[deltic]

i hope the mk1's are gonna last me a while,used them first time last night will put pic in gallery

[Grahame Case]

for everyone outside of edinburgh :

First impressions of the L1 MK 2 - superb, simply superb, the tone match brings the sound to life. the audio quality is impressive, as is the distribution of audio throughout the room.

will need to report fully once i have taken them to a gig - this was a test in our fairly large lounge.

For anyone in or near Edinburgh

I'd not recommend you purchase them, BOSE - load of :Censored:

;)