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Jiggles
07-02-2009, 12:25 PM
Anyone know anymore about these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PAIR-OF-ZOOM-DMX-MOVING-HEADS-WITH-ADDA-CASES-MINT-COND_W0QQitemZ120374579873QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Co nElec_LightingLEDsStrobes_RL?hash=item120374579873&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18 How good are they.

Callum

501damian501
07-02-2009, 12:34 PM
I believe zoom is an american company, their known in the karaoke stuff for tracks, if to go by their karaoke stuff, its pants :p

DeckstarDeluxe
07-02-2009, 01:11 PM
i might be wrong but i seem to remember someone saying these zooms are pretty much the same as the imove 5's??

I take it as your posting theres no videos on youtube??

Jiggles
07-02-2009, 01:17 PM
Tryed youtube and turned up alot of rubbish with me. Ill try again!

Corabar Steve
07-02-2009, 01:25 PM
I believe the Zoom that makes lights is not the same as the one that does karaoke discs.

The Zoom that makes lighting effects is related to Source (I think they bought them when Source went bust)

07-02-2009, 01:27 PM
I believe the Zoom that makes lights is not the same as the one that does karaoke discs.

The Zoom that makes lighting effects is related to Source (I think they bought them when Source went bust)

That's right a few weeks after Source went bust we had a brochure from Zoom through that was pretty much a carbon copy of the Source brochure.

A1DL
07-02-2009, 01:41 PM
The Zoom that makes lighting effects is related to Source (I think they bought them when Source went bust)

very close, Steve.

Antari UK Ltd - incorporated 1998, name change to Source Manufacturing Ltd in 2002, in liquidation 2005

Zoom Manufacturing Ltd - incorporated 2005, in liquidation 2008

SFX Distribution Ltd - incorporated 2008 and distributes products branded "Zoom Manufacturing" and "Zoom Manufacturing International"


Callum, I believe the moving heads shown in the OP are very early (2005/06) Zoom product, certainly not a current line, therefore consider the availability of spares before buying.

501damian501
07-02-2009, 01:44 PM
very close, Steve.

Antari UK Ltd - incorporated 1998, name change to Source Manufacturing Ltd in 2002, in liquidation 2005

Zoom Manufacturing Ltd - incorporated 2005, in liquidation 2008

SFX Distribution Ltd - incorporated 2008 and distributes products branded "Zoom Manufacturing" and "Zoom Manufacturing International"


Callum, I believe the moving heads shown in the OP are very early (2005/06) Zoom product, certainly not a current line, therefore consider the availability of spares before buying.

OK brightspark, can you shed me some light on cerwin vega/ kam speakers, certain cerwins look like kams just rebadged ?

Corabar Steve
07-02-2009, 01:45 PM
Karaoke http://www.zoom-entertainments.co.uk/

Lights http://www.zoommfgintl.com/led_architectural.html#ent although there doesn't appear to be any moving heads on there.

Why not utilise the "Ask seller a question" facility on eBay to find out exactly what model they are?

Corabar Steve
07-02-2009, 01:46 PM
OK brightspark, can you shed me some light on cerwin vega/ kam speakers, certain cerwins look like kams just rebadged ?

Somewhat off topic there Damian, as none of the above have been mentioned anywhere else in this thread & it's about lights not speakers.

Please don't respond to that question Tony.

COOL HAND LUKE
07-02-2009, 01:54 PM
I believe zoom is an american company, their known in the karaoke stuff for tracks, if to go by their karaoke stuff, its pants :p


OK brightspark, can you shed me some light on cerwin vega/ kam speakers, certain cerwins look like kams just rebadged ?

Damian, just got to tell you. laughed my head off at your comments. made my day

regards luke

501damian501
07-02-2009, 01:58 PM
Damian, just got to tell you. laughed my head off at your comments. made my day

regards luke

and whys that ?

Solitaire Events Ltd
07-02-2009, 01:58 PM
Right...

These are a generic moving head. I saw them at PLASA two years ago and was impressed with the size. There are lots of companies that sell them with a different badge.

There was a guy on Ebay selling them was was importing them, but he seems to have disappeared.

Bouncy Dancefloor
08-02-2009, 01:03 AM
as far as im aware, zoom dont do disco type lighting anymore

hence why ukdj are selling their 250w lights for £31 each!! Theres no real backup anymore, so i wouldnt waste your time

James
08-02-2009, 03:23 AM
from my guitar playing days i can remember a company called zoom who used to make guitar effect pedals and the like

Corabar Steve
08-02-2009, 10:23 AM
as far as im aware, zoom dont do disco type lighting anymore

hence why ukdj are selling their 250w lights for £31 each!! Theres no real backup anymore, so i wouldnt waste your time

They've still got some on their website (see post #9)

Bouncy Dancefloor
08-02-2009, 07:00 PM
LED stuff only! Apart from a couple of old models they are stuck with, but generally they shipped those out very cheap to the main dealers, hence the £31 lights with ukdj!

sleah
08-02-2009, 10:59 PM
I believe the Zoom that makes lights is not the same as the one that does karaoke discs.

The Zoom that makes lighting effects is related to Source (I think they bought them when Source went bust)


That's right a few weeks after Source went bust we had a brochure from Zoom through that was pretty much a carbon copy of the Source brochure.


very close, Steve.

Antari UK Ltd - incorporated 1998, name change to Source Manufacturing Ltd in 2002, in liquidation 2005

Zoom Manufacturing Ltd - incorporated 2005, in liquidation 2008

SFX Distribution Ltd - incorporated 2008 and distributes products branded "Zoom Manufacturing" and "Zoom Manufacturing International"


Callum, I believe the moving heads shown in the OP are very early (2005/06) Zoom product, certainly not a current line, therefore consider the availability of spares before buying.

Righty Gents!! This is where I step in:D

All of the above is correct (ish) AFAIK.

It just so happens that SFX distribution is local to me, the owner being a past aquaintance and a very good friend of mine is his sales man.
They are concentrating on LED's now. They have kit very *cough* similar to LEDJ, ADJ and the like. We rekon they actually come from the same factory in China!
I bought a pair of Showlight Pros from them, and they are identical, and 100% compatible with LEDJ Blockbuster 6's. I have a Blockbuster 8 and they master/slave perfectly and have all the same menus!
Their Moonmaster X is identical to the Impossiled.

The owner of SFX, Darren, did indeed work for Antari for a time, and also set up The Smoke Company, which lasted a couple of years.

I could ask my mate if he knows anything about the moving heads, but he's only been with SFX a couple of years. They certainly don't do them now.

http://www.sfxdistribution.co.uk/

If anyone's interested in their kit, I could see if I can get a discount:confused:
I'll certainly pass on my contacts name if anyone wants it. PM me.

Corabar Steve
09-02-2009, 07:49 AM
as far as im aware, zoom dont do disco type lighting anymore


They've still got some on their website (see post #9)


LED stuff only!
So they're not disco type lighting then? :sj:http://planetsmilies.net/vicious-smiley-1763.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

Bouncy Dancefloor
09-02-2009, 06:49 PM
not going to bother replying to that one

oh wait...i did

BrightLights
10-02-2009, 12:29 PM
Darren's spot on, these are a generic mover which have been rebaged by various people. As far as I remember they're originally made by Neo Neon.

There do seem to be some slight differences depending whose version you buy (some LED displays are red, some blue).

I bought 4 a while back. They're not the Zoom ones, but almost exactly the same.

Mine have been nothing but trouble, and I wouldn't recommend them. The contacts corroded very quickly in the connections that lead from the transformer to the lamp, which caused them to heat up. They got so hot that they melted the plastic of the screw-terminals, parts of the plastic casing, and in some cases the metal of the contacts as well! I wouldn't be surprised if they actually caught fire if left on for long enough.

Exactly the same thing happened to all four, and I've seen a comment from someone else somewhere on the web saying the same thing happened to his.

Obviously mine might have been from a faulty batch or something so it might not happen to all of them, but certainly worth knowing about!

It's a shame because apart from that they're nice looking units, light, bright, and worked well.

That was my experience, yours might be different...

infinity disco uk
10-02-2009, 08:24 PM
i might be wrong but i seem to remember someone saying these zooms are pretty much the same as the imove 5's??

not even in the same ball park fella :eek: the only thing they have in common is that they are moving heads thats where it stops :confused:

501damian501
11-02-2009, 07:11 PM
the staireville movers are the same as acme imove 5's

Alex - Cream Ents
12-02-2009, 08:12 PM
The Neo-Neon stuff (or however its badged) is garbage. They make lots of copies of popular lights, slightly re-named...(Warlock...)...etc.

Parts are garbage, transformers will blow, had a couple of scans where literally half the adhesive used to seal in gobos / color wheels had MELTED (fans still working...). Same as Silver Star, will work OK out of the box but give it a couple of months and ignitors will melt, motors will sieze, DMX boards will fail...and you will cry.

Short answer - avoid.

EDIT - Have had a Neo-Neon scanner catch fire, in a venue - whilst trading. (in reply to Bright lights post)

Cj_The_Dj
12-02-2009, 08:16 PM
you could pay the same for the acme imove 5, and the imove are well worth it :)