How do you justify your charge ??

[ppentertainments]

I have just had an enquiry when the question was put to me 'I can get a DJ for £90 so how can you justify your charge'.

I explained briefly about the equipment and backup, certificates, booking confirmation etc. then went in depth about the service I as a person would be providing.

I informed the client about previous experience, music collection, what I can provide in a lot more depth and finished with offering to provide telephone numbers for people who would gladly provide a reference.

Anyway, the customer finished by booking me, and a photograph slideshow (becoming very popular) and did not want the reference telephone numbers - the offer was enough.:D :D

She said it was good to talk to someone about what they provide rather than the equipment they provide.

So how do you justify your fee if asked ??

[Shaun]

So how do you justify your fee if asked ??

Pretty much the same as yourself. :)


I explained briefly about the equipment and backup, certificates, booking confirmation etc. then went in depth about the service I as a person would be providing.

I informed the client about previous experience, music collection, what I can provide in a lot more depth and finished with offering to provide telephone numbers for people who would gladly provide a reference.

[Corabar Steve]

Yep, that'll be it. Including telling them just how much work goes on behind the scenes before any of our DJs press play for the first song of the night.

[ppentertainments]

Yep, that'll be it. Including telling them just how much work goes on behind the scenes before any of our DJs press play for the first song of the night.

Never mentioned that Steve - am writing myself a checklist for enquiries so will add that :beer1:

I have found that by writing more in depth e-mails and talking longer on the phone to customers brings a definite improvement in conversions.

[501damian501]

tell um, quality service costs quality money :D

[ppentertainments]

tell um, quality service costs quality money :D

I would rather tell 'them' than 'um':D :D

[Corabar Steve]

tell um, quality service costs quality money :D
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[rob1963]

So how do you justify your fee if asked ??

To be honest, I've never had to...yet!

Possibly because my prices are on my website - so customers already know them before contacting me, also because the recent customer comments on my home page speak for themselves & finally because I'm cheaper than many others anyway...as there are a fair number of mobile discos with MUCH less experience than my 25 years...but who charge nearly double what I do.

Therefore, if I WAS asked to justify my prices, I don't think I'd find it too difficult.

:D

[Jonathan Ford]

Um white man speak with um fork tongue http://planetsmilies.net/person-smiley-1219.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

Sounds like "Little Plum" from the Beano... :D

[Tom]

Echo what everyone else has said but also it depends on the clients voice.

Sometimes I can tell if they are after a cheap disco so I keep the call quick and don't go to much in to it, but with others they seem to ask questions, to which I give a detailed answer.

For me, this usually results in a confirmed booking. Still get the odd people saying they will call me back.



Never got that call back for some reason. :lol:

[nigelwright7557]

Being at the lower end of the market around £100 + mileage I havent yet had to convince someone to book me.
I think the worst question was "Do you have any lights"

Despite my cost I still provide a full disco with a good set of lights, good sound and a cheeky DJ.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Ive not had to justify as such, but once you talk to the customer its a similar situation to yourself.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

I think that IF someone is saying that they can get a DJ for £90, they really aren't serious about the enquiry. If you are someone that advertises their prices online or press etc then why would they say that? Why bother contacting you?

Also, WHY should anyone HAVE to justify their prices to anyone? Ok, some people do want to know what they are getting for their money and some people want to know why Mr £90 is so much cheaper.

A lot of the reasons have been said already so I won't go over them again.

[Penfold42]

I think the worst question was "Do you have any lights"

How did you reply...."Yes...and I've made them myself..." :eek:
:p :D

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Despite my cost I still provide a full disco with a good set of lights, good sound

Have you bought new equipment then? :p

[Dynamic Entertainment]

£100

100 Notes Nigel..... :), beats £60 Sid. :D:D

[Tony Scott]

To be honest, I've never had to...yet!

Possibly because my prices are on my website - so customers already know them before contacting me, also because the recent customer comments on my home page speak for themselves & finally because I'm cheaper than many others anyway...as there are a fair number of mobile discos with MUCH less experience than my 25 years...but who charge nearly double what I do.

Therefore, if I WAS asked to justify my prices, I don't think I'd find it too difficult.

:D

Just about word for word what I would have posted Rob........easy post! :D

[Danieleastwood.com]

I have to agree with Shakermaker there!!

Why should you have to justify your price? If the client is that serious, they will ask questions rather than moan that they can get it cheaper.

Surely you'd be more inclined to answer someone who asks... "what am I getting for that price?" than try and explain to someone who tells you they can get ol' Jiblets up the road for "only £90".

All the more annoying when, as Rob said, your prices are displayed on all your websites/literature.


"I wouldn't phone the 'Sony centre and tell the sales guy I could by a DVD player from Tescos for £15"

[DeckstarDeluxe]

The thing you have to remember guys is that Joe Public (not everyone but on average) has little or no understand of watt output rms led moving heads etc (its why i have videos on my site). Its natural for them to say to you "why should i book you for more money when this guy can do it for this price". Im not making any sort of stand for £60 Sid and i get bored of the same old speech about why you pay the extra money for me, but you have to put yourself in the customers position sometimes.

[rob1963]

"Do you have any lights"

I've also been asked this several times.

Naturally, my reply is "Yes, and you can have 2 more for an extra £75!"

:D :D :D :D :D


Just about word for word what I would have posted Rob........easy post! :D

Great minds, eh Tony? ;)

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Deckstar - Fair points but in reality, unless you get the odd customer here and there that knows a bit about what we do etc....I'd say most of them won't give a stuff about rms and moving heads etc...They'll more than likely want to know more than that. Equipment wise, it seems customers don't care as long as they get entertained. I kind of agree with you in a way and our equipment costs us a lot to maintain and update etc but they don't care.

Some guy down the road with a traffic light box, rope light and home made speakers may be their cup of tea and therefore they'd be getting what they pay for, even though the guy may well do a half decent job?

I would (if I could be bothered to tell them) go along the lines of being a full time operator. One that takes pride in what he does and is 100% committed to giving his customers an excellent, value for money service. One that is covered with PLI, PAT etc... One that updates his database of music on a regular basis and is request friendly. One that offers a free consultation service and comes recommended (point them in the direction of feedback or tell them that references can be supplied)...

As I said earlier...I don't see why I should have to justify myself and the Sony/Tescos comparison earlier was spot on. If I wanted to book a disco, all of the things I have said would be taken into consideration and I am not saying that because I do it...I would rather pay the price and get a professional than some friend of a friend of a friend who has a few tunes (probably illegal downloads) and will do it for beer money. I've said it before but I don't want nor am I interested in those types of enquiries so I wouldn't say any of the above anyway...I would just say that I wouldn't be able to match the price and wish them good luck finding a professional in the same price range. Even if they wanted me to DJ for an hour for £90.00, I'd still say no.

[PropellerHeadCase]

Why should you have to justify your price? If the client is that serious, they will ask questions rather than moan that they can get it cheaper.

There is a little implied negativity but I'd hardly call it moaning.



Surely you'd be more inclined to answer someone who asks... "what am I getting for that price?" than try and explain to someone who tells you they can get ol' Jiblets up the road for "only £90".

Not necessarily, people don't know enough about DJing to really know what to ask and, to all intents and purposes the two questions above have the same answer.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Ok, just putting a different stant on it, its all well and good giving the whole sales pitch, but what do you do when your not given chance to "justify" your price, so to speak.

Ive had a few enquiries in the last month that goes along the lines of:

Me: Hello, Dynamic Discos

Them: Do you do discos (?:confused: )*(even occasionally just skip to "How much do you charge?")

Me: Yes, we do.

Them: How much do you charge:

Me *begins sales patter, gets cut off not-even half way through*

Them: Ok, thanks, bye.

Now i know im not charging over the odds for round here but more recently folk just dont seem interested in anything but the price.

Ive even started picking up on the ones who are just after price (from their first few words) and started with the price and giving them the website too look at the pics and telling them to come back to me. Right or wrong? I dont particulary want them on the phone, but what do you think?

Funnily enough, ive gotten 2 bookings out of that approach since the pics went on the site though.

[sleah]

100 Notes Nigel..... :), beats £60 Sid. :D:D

:DLike it!:D

Now, for me... err can't steal Sid's thunder....

How about...


Seventy quid Simon?

No?
:coat::run::taxi:


Back OT..
Can't say I've ever been asked outright to justify costs, been hinted at once or twice though.
I agree with some of the above, why should I have to justify myself?:mad:

[Vectis]

"How much do you charge...."

"Well we have a range of packages to suit different requirements and budgets, so if you can spend a couple of minutes telling me a little more about your party then I can suggest the most appropriate one for you..."

Seems to work for me ;)


Generally though phone calls tend to come from folks who've either seen me or are referred word-of-mouth so they already have an idea what they want.

I will sometimes downsize the package too, usually based on the venue.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

I agree with some of the above, why should I have to justify myself?:mad:

Whats the difference between justify and sales pitch....the question at the start! Thats how i see it.:D

Cheers Martin, you dont mind if i nick that do you. Havent been able to word it right without sounding pushy. (if youve heard west cumbrian, its sounds pushy/rough...dog rough...at the best of times.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

Ok, just putting a different stant on it, its all well and good giving the whole sales pitch, but what do you do when your not given chance to "justify" your price, so to speak.

Ive had a few enquiries in the last month that goes along the lines of:

Me: Hello, Dynamic Discos

Them: Do you do discos (?:confused: )*(even occasionally just skip to "How much do you charge?")

Me: Yes, we do.

Them: How much do you charge:

Me *begins sales patter, gets cut off not-even half way through*

Them: Ok, thanks, bye.

Now i know im not charging over the odds for round here but more recently folk just dont seem interested in anything but the price.

Ive even started picking up on the ones who are just after price (from their first few words) and started with the price and giving them the website too look at the pics and telling them to come back to me. Right or wrong? I dont particulary want them on the phone, but what do you think?

Funnily enough, ive gotten 2 bookings out of that approach since the pics went on the site though.

I argee with you steve. I do think in ways its better when they cut you off because you stops you wasting your time to someone who just wants our friend Sid. This is why i think its great to get some good pictures and videos on website as i perviously said people have no real idea about quality of lights etc.. but show them a nice video of a disco you do and it tells them more in a few seconds than minutes of sales pitch.

[Bouncy Dancefloor]

i dont mind justifying my charges, this job is very much sales related, so i see every phone call as a potential sale and give 100%. My Phone call to booking conversion is very high and im very proud of that

[leighinstoke]

I'll happily quote and explain what they get for the price. If I'm then met with the saying "....but I can get one for such and such" once I've gone through everything, I can usually tell I won't get a booking so I just wish them well and hope and happy and they get what they are paying for.

Leigh.....

[Danieleastwood.com]

Leigh...

That's exactly how it gets dealt with from me. Explain what they get for the price and wish them well if they give it the ole "I found so and so cheaper"

I think the fine line between justifying price and explaining what you get for the price is just that....very fine.

I do have to add, one of the most annoying things is when you get an enquiry from someone who has been recommended to you and your service. They have been given every confidence by the venue that you know what your doing, but still insist on making that point... "So and So will do it for 90 quid"

[Shakermaker Promotions]

That is SO right. I have had someone contact me just before christmas. They said that I had been recommended by one of their friends whose wedding I DJ'd at. They knew the price aswell and I was available on the date required. I had a good chat on the phone with them yet didn't hear anything for over a week so I did the chase up email as I thought they had maybe forgotten and they emailed back saying that they were going elsewhere....that totally confused me. Maybe she didn't like the tone of my voice?

[Excalibur]

That is SO right. I have had someone contact me just before christmas. They said that I had been recommended by one of their friends whose wedding I DJ'd at. They knew the price aswell and I was available on the date required. I had a good chat on the phone with them yet didn't hear anything for over a week so I did the chase up email as I thought they had maybe forgotten and they emailed back saying that they were going elsewhere....that totally confused me. Maybe she didn't like the tone of my voice?

Snap. Gave 'em the sales pitch as to why I was better value than the Hundred quid Harry, thought it had worked, but no call back yet. :( :(

[yourdj]

Have you bought new equipment then? :p

an impossiled by the looks of it.


Deckstar - Fair points but in reality, unless you get the odd customer here and there that knows a bit about what we do etc....I'd say most of them won't give a stuff about rms and moving heads etc...They'll more than likely want to know more than that. Equipment wise, it seems customers don't care as long as they get entertained.

Too right. there are allot of people on here that seemed to have missed that point. The gear is important but its the person behind, or infront of it that counts.

It is very easy to let insecurity get the better of you by assuming the client wants or knows what all the latest sound and light is and aquire far too much equipment to then hide behind it all and not utter a word.

I only had about 3 bookings last year who asked me for a gear rundown. needless to say they were all bedroom dj grooms who on the day could not give a stuff anyway.

Most want to know my availability, reliability, music played and booking formalities.

[DiscoPromotions]

I hear some stories that people try it on DJ's to lower their price.

I am blunt but polite person. When a caller tells me that they can get DJ for 80, 90, or 100 quid. I ask them "why are they calling us, instead of booking them?"

Then the excuses start to reel out like "he may not be available" or "seen whats about" etc. Which rumbles them.

Then with that out the way it is then down to straight talking.

I advise them who and what we are about. Then it is down to them to make the choice as I always say to them "call other people as compare the service offer".

9 times out 10 they come back and book us. It is a risk but I'm not sales person no point in trying.

[rob1963]

There are allot of people on here that seemed to have missed that point. The gear is important but its the person behind, or infront of it that counts.

Couldn't agree more.

As recently discussed in another thread, I get the impression there are some people who don't think they're a proper DJ unless they use certain types or makes of gear...and that the gear is more important than the service they provide.

I think a number of people need to take a step back, think about this & understand that the various bits of equipment we use are merely the tools of our trade.

Do you hear builders go on about the make or cost of their drill? Do you hear electronics engneers going on about the make or cost of their soldering iron? Do decorators talk about the make or cost of their paint brush?

:confused:


I only had about 3 bookings last year who asked me for a gear rundown. needless to say they were all bedroom dj grooms who on the day could not give a stuff anyway.

Most want to know my availability, reliability, music played and booking formalities.

Indeed.

I had an enquiry this week from someone who had several questions. One of the things they wanted to know was whether I could provide some photos of my set up.

I thought this was rather strange, because if I was considering hiring a decorator, for example, I certainly wouldn't ask him to send me photos of his dust sheets!

In my reply, I described the set up & politely stated that I don't have any photos, as I prefer to focus on the service I provide rather than the actual equipment. I also said she could see photos of the effects created by my lighting on the website.

I think I'm unlikely to lose the booking due to not providing photos of my equipment, but if I do, I'm really not bothered...as I'm not particularly interested in a client who is more interested in my equipment than what I actually do.

[ppentertainments]

Couldn't agree more.

As recently discussed in another thread, I get the impression there are some people who don't think they're a proper DJ unless they use certain types or makes of gear...and that the gear is more important than the service they provide.

I think a number of people need to take a step back, think about this & understand that the various bits of equipment we use are merely the tools of our trade.

Do you hear builders go on about the make or cost of their drill? Do you hear electronics engneers going on about the make or cost of their soldering iron? Do decorators talk about the make or cost of their paint brush?

:confused:



I agree with this and think I made a similar comment on a thread earlier this year asking what people were doing to improve their service this year.

Nearly everyone mentioned new equipment but hardly anyone mentioned anything about personal improvements.

[Vectis]

I'm not particularly interested in a client who is more interested in my equipment than what I actually do.

Ooer Missus :D

[DiscoPromotions]

I think I'm unlikely to lose the booking due to not providing photos of my equipment, but if I do, I'm really not bothered...as I'm not particularly interested in a client who is more interested in my equipment than what I actually do.

I can see you point on this one and it is your choice to take that approach.

If I was a client I was calling for a service I would like to know what I am getting for my money.

I would not book a holiday unless I seen photos of the resort and room.

I think it is case that they want to see how it looks and how it would feel to them.

You are asking for them to part with their hard earn cash.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

I had an enquiry this week from someone who had several questions. One of the things they wanted to know was whether I could provide some photos of my set up.


Whilst I agree with what youve said, ive found that having a photo of the set up is an advantage, especially for the weddings where they want the disco set-up early, so as not to disrupt guests. Their ligic has been that they want to know that it can be in the corner/on the stage and is neat and discreet :)

PP - Maybe the equipment is all that can be done to improve their service. I bet if you talk to most djs they think that they have it down to a T can cant see anything else they need to improve on. I was talking to a Cowboy recently (gave up trying to convert him) who doesnt pass work to anyone at all, because no one is as good as him........

[Corabar Steve]

Do you hear builders go on about the make or cost of their drill? Do you hear electronics engneers going on about the make or cost of their soldering iron? Do decorators talk about the make or cost of their paint brush?
Very true, but by the same token, most of them don't pop down to their local B&Q for a Black & Decker. Most professionals will be using something that they know will last, say DeWalt or similar. The same can be said of paint brushes, a good brand will last longer in daily use than a Homebase value pack. It is just accepted that they have the correct tools to do the job properly.

Builders, electricians & decorators don't tend to be part timers with a different day job either, which is the big difference between them & a mobile DJ. Most of us are part timers & the selection of "professional" disco equipment is a fair bit wider than equipment for most other trades.

Trade suppliers to most other industries tend to be just that, you have to be in the trade to purchase from them (there are exceptions obviously), but any Herbert off the street can buy disco equipment from disco suppliers

[ppentertainments]

I was talking to a Cowboy recently (gave up trying to convert him) who doesnt pass work to anyone at all, because no one is as good as him........

I think that is the belief of most cowboys, whereas professionals will try to improve themselves constantly, therefore reaping the benefits in the long run.

This as just a generalisation and personal opinion. I have no proof to back up this claim. (before anyone asks :D )

[Solitaire Events Ltd]

Very true, but by the same token, most of them don't pop down to their local B&Q for a Black & Decker. Most professionals will be using something that they know will last, say DeWalt or similar. The same can be said of paint brushes, a good brand will last longer in daily use than a Homebase value pack. It is just accepted that they have the correct tools to do the job properly.

Builders, electricians & decorators don't tend to be part timers with a different day job either, which is the big difference between them & a mobile DJ. Most of us are part timers & the selection of "professional" disco equipment is a fair bit wider than equipment for most other trades.

Trade suppliers to most other industries tend to be just that, you have to be in the trade to purchase from them (there are exceptions obviously), but any Herbert off the street can buy disco equipment from disco suppliers


Very very good post.

[Roy James]

The hardest one's for trying to justify a price (In my opinion) are christenings.
I have had people call, and ask for a disco the hours being from 12 o'clock dinner time to 9 in the evening (21:00hrs) a total of 9 hrs!!! and when you give a price of double what you would charge for a weekend gig they dont want to know.
Roy James

[Dynamic Entertainment]

As far as christenings i generally talk to the client and explain to them that they wont require a disco for 9 hours. Usually i explain that at most christenings 4 hours is enough. Most of them take the advice, and are thankful when everyone is going home at 4pm.

Anyone who insist on a run on past 5pm gets it explained that their booking means that i would be unable to take a booking in the evening, there fore the price is significantly higher. They either take the booking with less hours, pay the price, or go elsewhere (not many do to be honest thought:) )

[rob1963]

I think I'm unlikely to lose the booking due to not providing photos of my equipment, but if I do, I'm really not bothered...as I'm not particularly interested in a client who is more interested in my equipment than what I actually do.


If I was a client I was calling for a service I would like to know what I am getting for my money.

In that case, before booking a decorator, would you ask to see photos of his paint brushes, dust sheets, paint tray, ladder, roller etc?


I would not book a holiday unless I seen photos of the resort and room.

With all due respect, that's completely different.

However, I HAVE been on quite a few holidays without previously seeing photos of the resort & room.


Whilst I agree with what youve said, ive found that having a photo of the set up is an advantage

I disagree.

One of the most important lessons I've learned from this forum is that 99% of the time clients don't give a stuff about equipment.

[Bouncy Dancefloor]

those 9 hour christenings tend to be for gypsy folk anyway, so who wants to be around when theyve been drinking for 8-9 hours?

as far as people asking about the equipment, i tell them a few basic things. I tell them the sound system sounds good whilst not being too loud, the lights look pretty and help to set the mood for the evening and the equipment is smart and presentable. This is generally all the client is interested in. When they ask for photos, they dont care about the equipment or makes, its whether it looks rubbish or tacky

[Corabar Steve]

In that case, before booking a decorator, would you ask to see photos of his paint brushes, dust sheets, paint tray, ladder, roller etc?
No but you might if they were something that you had to look at all night.

I would imagine that they wanted to make sure that it wasn't a speakers on the floor light screens & ropelight style set up.

To a lot of customers (especially the high end ones) the aesthetics of the rig are an important factor when booking a disco.

[rob1963]

In that case, before booking a decorator, would you ask to see photos of his paint brushes, dust sheets, paint tray, ladder, roller etc?


No but you might if they were something that you had to look at all night.

So people WOULD want to see the equipment they'd be looking at for 3 or 4 hours at a disco, But they'd NOT want to see all the decorating stuff which would be in their house for maybe a WEEK or more?

:confused:

[Corabar Steve]

Yes, it's completely different & you know it is.

The paint brushes etc are a means to an end, whereas the disco rig is part of the end result.

[rob1963]

Yes, it's completely different & you know it is.

The paint brushes etc are a means to an end, whereas the disco rig is part of the end result.

Fair enough, Steve.

I can only speak for the people who make enquiries to ME, and roughly 98-99% of them don't even MENTION equipment...let alone want to see photos of it.

I draw my own conclusions from that.

[DeckstarDeluxe]

I'll second what rob says. Even though myself i want to expand my rig to a size suitable enough for outdoor events that cater for 500+ i have to say very few people will enquire to me about what sort of equipment i use. I on average spend 5-10 minutes on the phone to customers and mention we use professional equipment. I would happily bet if i said i used professional peavey sound system or professional nigeltronic speakers they would not batter an eyelid.

If its not an "run of the mill" event then yes chances are they would ask more about equipment.

[Dynamic Entertainment]

I disagree.

One of the most important lessons I've learned from this forum is that 99% of the time clients don't give a stuff about equipment.


Fair point, but all the weddings ive done where ive set up early on, the bride and groom have wanted to make sure that its a neat and tidy setup. I think your missing my point, they dont generally (some do but not all) give a stuff about which lights ive got or that, but they do care that the rig isnt going to look untidy. It gets back to the negative press the industry has with trailing wires and dodgy equipment thrown all over the place.

They want to make sure that its nice and discreet. Its not an issue for the disco where you turn up a couple of hours before and set up, then the lights are off. Its when the equipment is visible all day that they want it nice and tidy.

[501damian501]

their bound to ask questions, to be honest i think its just to see if you know what your talking about, even if they dont have aclue people still question you.

[rob1963]

Its not an issue for the disco where you turn up a couple of hours before and set up, then the lights are off. Its when the equipment is visible all day that they want it nice and tidy.

Fair comment, Steve.

I do virtually ALL weddings, but I don't do many early set ups...which might be why I've not really experienced this.

[Shaun]

their bound to ask questions, to be honest i think its just to see if you know what your talking about, even if they dont have aclue people still question you.


For Damian (again).

http://www.mobilediscodirectory.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=10626:p

[Corabar Steve]

Yes, it's completely different & you know it is.

The paint brushes etc are a means to an end, whereas the disco rig is part of the end result.


Fair enough, Steve.

I can only speak for the people who make enquiries to ME, and roughly 98-99% of them don't even MENTION equipment...let alone want to see photos of it.

I draw my own conclusions from that.
I had an enquiry this week from someone who had several questions. One of the things they wanted to know was whether I could provide some photos of my set up.

I thought this was rather strange, because if I was considering hiring a decorator, for example, I certainly wouldn't ask him to send me photos of his dust sheets!
...as I'm not particularly interested in a client who is more interested in my equipment than what I actually do.


I'll second what rob says. Even though myself i want to expand my rig to a size suitable enough for outdoor events that cater for 500+ i have to say very few people will enquire to me about what sort of equipment i use.
Nobody said anything about customers asking what sort / brand of equipment you use, that's usually just other DJs

Fair point, but all the weddings ive done where ive set up early on, the bride and groom have wanted to make sure that its a neat and tidy setup.

But it's all about reassurance isn't it. If they've seen photos of your rig they can be reassured that after they've put on their £500 dress had their £100 make up put on & had their £150 hair do, been driven around in a Rolls Royce / horse & carriage, arrived at their £300 venue eaten their £60 a head meal & cut their £200 cake, that your disco won't be a huge great zit on the nose of their otherwise immaculate wedding day's face.

[Shakermaker Promotions]

"Nigeltronic" speakers...that's a classic. Anyone remember that make 'Spinytronic' or whatever it was called?

DiscoSteve - Totally agree about the look of the rig. I have had a couple of say to me in the past that they don't want the Disco set up early because they don't want it in their photos in the background when they are having their meals etc. Their choice but I prefer early set ups because it means I can sound and light check everything properly and well in advance instead of getting in a sweaty mess because I am rushing during their room turnaround. It doesn't happen that often to be fair but I do understand their reasoning and at the end of the day, it's their function. It doesn't matter how tidy it is, if it's an eyesore and is going to spoil their photos then I'm cool with it...kind of.

[Corabar Steve]

Exactly.

Although we are now a fair way off of the original topic

[Shakermaker Promotions]

Apologies.

[Corabar Steve]

That wasn't directed at you Gary, I think it had drifted a long time before you added your 2p

[Dynamic Entertainment]

What was the topic?.... :D I dont think we have gone that far. Having a nice tidy rig that you take pride in can be part of the justification, so can the early set ups if its a seperate additional charge. :)

[Corabar Steve]

See thread title

[Dynamic Entertainment]

See thread title

I know, i was joking :D

[Excalibur]

I'm considering borrowing a ruse from my esteemed Idle Rob ( Did I spell idle correctly BTW? )

For an extra fiver, I'll add another eight speakers. :D :D :D

[rob1963]

I'm considering borrowing a ruse from my esteemed Idle Rob ( Did I spell idle correctly BTW? )

Definately NOT! :p