TV Last Night (Tue)

[Mayhem 1]

I wonder if anybody saw the program on TV last night (Confessions) it was all about the wedding industry and the things that the wedding people do which the public don’t realise!!! It was very interesting to say the least chaps but……………………..

The one thing that did make me mad on behalf of you chaps who specialise in wedding receptions was the wedding planner on there!!!!

She said that the DJ is the one person who is most likely to ruin a reception because they never listen to the B&G and are a law unto themselves!!!!

I know from reading your gig reports on here fella’s that you put 110% into making sure every detail is correct and is in line with the B+G’s wishes.

This prompts a question guys - Have you ever done a wedding reception and had the wedding planner from hell to deal with?

[ppentertainments]

We have all heard many stories about DJ's not turning up, I done a wedding when the wedding planner did not turn up on the day :eek:

His excuse was that he used up all his 'hours' in the preperation so did not turn up on the day. :confused:

There are 2 local planners who I work with occasionaly and I have to say they are brilliant and involve me fully in preperations and on the day.

[rob1963]

She said that the DJ is the one person who is most likely to ruin a reception because they never listen to the B&G and are a law unto themselves!!!!

The last thing we need is idiots coming out with crap like that on TV shows.

:bang:


This prompts a question guys - Have you ever done a wedding reception and had the wedding planner from hell to deal with?

Not at all.

Even though she lives less than a mile up the road, a local wedding planner found me through my website a year or so back, and ended up booking me for one of her clients.

She was very friendly and helpful, & did a great job at keeping me informed.

As it turned out, the gig was a blinding success, and she later emailed me a glowing report which she'd received from the bride & groom.

On the back of this, she has referred some more clients to me, and I've taken a couple more bookings from her.

The wedding suppliers I've had the most problems with (by a mile) is bands, whether it's setting up without leaving me any room, moving my gear or virtually ignoring me.

[Ryu]

Wedding and Events planners are our mortal enemies as DJs, in my opinion.
If the event goes well - Its all the planners doing
If the event goes badly - Its the DJs fault.

Your on a hiding to nothing as a DJ working with a Planner!

[rob1963]

Wedding and Events planners are our mortal enemies as DJs, in my opinion.
If the event goes well - Its all the planners doing
If the event goes badly - Its the DJs fault.

Your on a hiding to nothing as a DJ working with a Planner!

I couldn't disagree more.

Maybe I've just been lucky.

:shrug:

[Ryu]

I couldn't disagree more.

Maybe I've just been lucky.

:shrug:


I guess you took the right move of getting on side with one or two of them, or having an established business relationship with one or two.

If they are nothing more than a liason between the person you are doing the gig for, then, like I say...its harder for you as a DJ to succeed, because you are not privy to the bookers wishes, you are at the whim of someone who has been employed by the booker to make the night a success, and the planner is likely to be more demanding as he/she has to show that they as planners are worth their fee.

I'd much rather work directly with the booker, given the choice :)

[Javlingames]

I saw parts of it, where the DJ did the gig without any trousers on, sounds a bit far fetched to me! Basically he opened his suit bag to get changed into his dinner jacket but had forgotten his black trousers. Worst case scenario surely you would wear the trousers you set up in?

[Vectis]

The last thing we need is idiots coming out with crap like that on TV shows.


But on the flip side it's likely to make Bs & Gs sit up, take notice, and do more research (and, ideally, raise the budget :o ).

Those of us who DO put customer service at the top of our sales pitch AND have the evidence to prove we do a good job have nothing to fear methinks.

[Mission]

I saw parts of it, where the DJ did the gig without any trousers on, sounds a bit far fetched to me! Basically he opened his suit bag to get changed into his dinner jacket but had forgotten his black trousers. Worst case scenario surely you would wear the trousers you set up in?

I know, If that progam was on this morning I would of thought it was an April Fools Joke. He must of turned up in his pants to set up then, if he didn't have any other trouser/jeans on!

[CRAZY K]

:eek:
I wonder if anybody saw the program on TV last night (Confessions) it was all about the wedding industry and the things that the wedding people do which the public don’t realise!!! It was very interesting to say the least chaps but……………………..

The one thing that did make me mad on behalf of you chaps who specialise in wedding receptions was the wedding planner on there!!!!

She said that the DJ is the one person who is most likely to ruin a reception because they never listen to the B&G and are a law unto themselves!!!!

I know from reading your gig reports on here fella’s that you put 110% into making sure every detail is correct and is in line with the B+G’s wishes.

This prompts a question guys - Have you ever done a wedding reception and had the wedding planner from hell to deal with?

No--but I have had the DJ from hell to deal with.

IT DOESNT HAPPEN TOO OFTEN---BUT IT HAPPENS.

I am not into talking about reactions to my performance BUT this is relevant ;)

Heres an excerpt from my web site--

Here is a testimonial from a client who almost had their Wedding ruined---fortunately they booked Crazy K who saved the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hi
We would like to express our many thanks for the way you got everyone up dancing at our Wedding.

We were disappointed with the disco the club supplied as he had none of the music we had asked for and was supposed to be there at 3 and only turned up just before you did. ( that was 6pm )

If it hadn't have been for you we feel no one would have danced as all he did was play hardcore club music which our sons loved but the majority didn't.

We are still getting lots of good feed back on the barn dancing. We would recommend you to anyone.

Thank you for making our special day even more special.

Daphne and Tony
x
CRAZY K
WEDDING BARN DANCE SPECIALIST :)

[CRAZY K]

The last thing we need is idiots coming out with crap like that on TV shows.

:bang:



Not at all.

Even though she lives less than a mile up the road, a local wedding planner found me through my website a year or so back, and ended up booking me for one of her clients.

She was very friendly and helpful, & did a great job at keeping me informed.

As it turned out, the gig was a blinding success, and she later emailed me a glowing report which she'd received from the bride & groom.

On the back of this, she has referred some more clients to me, and I've taken a couple more bookings from her.

The wedding suppliers I've had the most problems with (by a mile) is bands, whether it's setting up without leaving me any room, moving my gear or virtually ignoring me.

Or them BEING WAY TOO LOUD :D :D :D

CRAZY K

[Mayhem 1]

Says it all mate, well done:beer1:

[DJ INDIE]

Last year, i took a wedding in Wales at 3 weeks notice, booked directly via the groom himself who was panicking.

turned up on the day at 3pm as requested. the venue was shut. got in at 4 and set up. had to ask the venue if we could move all the tables and chairs etc to set up (and had to move them ourselves). had then to point out they would need space for a dancefloor later (and again had to move more chairs ourselves after the meal had finished at 8).

talking to a lady at the bar when getting a drink about 10pm. she said she didnt think the singer was turning up - "what singer?!" I asked (no one had mentioned one!), "the one i thought id booked for tonight" she replied. I asked her if she was a relation of the couple - "no, im the wedding planner!" she said.

I couldnt for the life of me what she had actually planned or done - certainly nothing after 4pm - even the one act that did turn up - us - was booked directly by the groom last minute, and then we had to tell the venue how to organise themselves for the night guests!

I have had good experience with some though.

[Penfold42]

Pre-site visit's, phone calls and good communications should kill all this IMO. :)

[CRAZY K]

Pre-site visit's, phone calls and good communications should kill all this IMO. :)

Excluding a pre site visit I agree;)

Get on the phone---its more cost effective.

CRAZY K

[rob1963]

The last thing we need is idiots coming out with crap like that on TV shows.


But on the flip side it's likely to make Bs & Gs sit up, take notice, and do more research (and, ideally, raise the budget :o ).


Possibly...or maybe some of them will just book a band instead!

[Dynamic Entertainment]

Possibly...or maybe some of them will just book a band instead!

Im waiting for B&G to get back to me at to whether they decide to go with a band or dj..... Which leads on to....

One of the venues i work at genuinly push me with the B&G (not exclusivly but you get the idea) and the owner does a touch of planning herself. She always trys to persuade against a band as they, generally, only play for part of the night, are expensive, and their music selection isnt as vast as a dj.

I once got wind of her at logger heads with a "professional" wedding planner whi was instructing the B&G to get a band as djs were crap, unreliable and generally a waste of space.

I think it all depends on the mentality of the planner. Its just a shame that a idiot got to go on the telly.... :)

[djsteve10]

Yeah I saw this program about the DJ that did a gig with no trousers on, It was abit far fetched for me, I also think the Dj was very arrogant and his words was "Wedding recepetions are so long and boring", If he thinks that then he best give up dj'in and has just given himself a bad name on tv.

[mark@pegasus]

I missed it but it should be on ITV player tomorrow, so I am going to watch it before I go off to to set up for my gig on Saturday

[ppentertainments]

Pre-site visit's, phone calls and good communications should kill all this IMO. :)
Well said, and our job would be so much easier, and more beneficial to our customers if clients and wedding organisers noted this and accepted more communication between us and them.

Of late I have had a lot of bookings taking me up on home visits and on the night it is so much better being familiar with the B&G and know quite a bit about them and their wedding party. I have a meeting tomorrow morning where the B&G, both sets of parents, bridesmaids and best man are all going to be there.

[DazzyD]

I've never had a problem with wedding planners. I've worked with a handful over the years. I find that the good ones have the clients best interests at heart and, after talking to me, realise that I work on the same principles. The less professional ones tend to get stressed easier and can come across as pushy. But the more established ones are better organised and this rubs off on those around them creating a much more relaxed atmosphere.


The wedding suppliers I've had the most problems with (by a mile) is bands, whether it's setting up without leaving me any room, moving my gear or virtually ignoring me.

I think we've all had this with bands and not just at weddings. They tend to have pretty big egos! Mind you, some of the worst people I've worked with are the strip-o-grams (both male and female) that I've encountered over the years. Some are really nice people but a fair few have been right pains-in-the-backsides!


But on the flip side it's likely to make Bs & Gs sit up, take notice, and do more research (and, ideally, raise the budget :o ).

Those of us who DO put customer service at the top of our sales pitch AND have the evidence to prove we do a good job have nothing to fear methinks.

I agree to some extent, Martin. The good service providers will always rise to the top. But this kind of publicity will inevitably put some clients off booking a DJ for their wedding. And this can't be good for our industry.


Pre-site visit's, phone calls and good communications should kill all this IMO. :)

Spot on, Tone! Communication - that's the key to successful relationships with wedding planners and clients in general. In fact it's the key to good relationships with everyone you encounter in this industry and any other.