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Disco Leisure UK
06-04-2009, 03:25 PM
Hi Guys, Just purchased a cheap pair of Class D CD15 bass bins from a bar getting rid of equipment, I am going to use them on the second setup we have together with JAC12 tops (AC Euro ACP112) and all driven on one amp for the time being until I sort a crossover out, I have been told from the guy at the bar to link from the amp to the JAC12's first then to the CD15 bass bins as this would give the 4ohms needed to get the max from the amp as the CD15s have a 'filtered crossover', I explained that surely you come from your bass bins first then to the tops, he then said you could but you would get 8ohms still instead of 4ohms :confused: .....is this correct???....thanks

Excalibur
06-04-2009, 04:23 PM
Hi Guys, Just purchased a cheap pair of Class D CD15 bass bins from a bar getting rid of equipment, I am going to use them on the second setup we have together with JAC12 tops (AC Euro ACP112) and all driven on one amp for the time being until I sort a crossover out, I have been told from the guy at the bar to link from the amp to the JAC12's first then to the CD15 bass bins as this would give the 4ohms needed to get the max from the amp as the CD15s have a 'filtered crossover', I explained that surely you come from your bass bins first then to the tops, he then said you could but you would get 8ohms still instead of 4ohms :confused: .....is this correct???....thanks

Tops first = 4ohms, bins first=8ohms. If you go through the tops first, they will get a fullrange signal into them, with added bass from the subs. Corabar Steve runs a lot like that, if I understood him correctly. I would be inclined to try it each way, and see which you prefer.

Disco Leisure UK
07-04-2009, 06:43 AM
Tops first = 4ohms, bins first=8ohms. If you go through the tops first, they will get a fullrange signal into them, with added bass from the subs. Corabar Steve runs a lot like that, if I understood him correctly. I would be inclined to try it each way, and see which you prefer.

Cheers pete, I'll try the tops to subs first it seems that this may be the way to go.

Excalibur
07-04-2009, 07:15 AM
Cheers pete, I'll try the tops to subs first it seems that this may be the way to go.

One word of caution. I didn't initially spot that the tops were JAC's. As far as I know, they are not as good run full range as their wooden cousins. The benefits of the extra power you get may be outweighed by the less distinct sound. It's a suck it and see scenario. Let us know what you find/think.

JAMdisco
07-04-2009, 07:27 AM
I have a similar set up (identical in fact) and I run from subs into tops therefore running the amp at 8 ohms. If I take out my mid 158-1's then I run from amp into mids, mids into bins and bins into tops. This equates to 4 ohms but the amp can sometimes get a little warm.

I think Peter is correct in that feeding a full signal to 12" may not get the desired results.

How many Watts is your amp in 8ohms & 4 ohms?

Disco Leisure UK
07-04-2009, 03:58 PM
I have a similar set up (identical in fact) and I run from subs into tops therefore running the amp at 8 ohms. If I take out my mid 158-1's then I run from amp into mids, mids into bins and bins into tops. This equates to 4 ohms but the amp can sometimes get a little warm.

I think Peter is correct in that feeding a full signal to 12" may not get the desired results.

How many Watts is your amp in 8ohms & 4 ohms?


The amp is 400wrms x 2 at 8ohms and 600wrms x 2 at 4ohms

Excalibur
07-04-2009, 04:03 PM
The amp is 400wrms x 2 at 8ohms and 600wrms x 2 at 4ohms

In that case, your ears and nose will be your best indicators.
Ears if it sounds better the "wrong way round", and nose if you drive it so hard that it cooks. ;) :D :D :D
As I said, try it gently, and see which you prefer.

Disco Leisure UK
07-04-2009, 04:21 PM
In that case, your ears and nose will be your best indicators.
Ears if it sounds better the "wrong way round", and nose if you drive it so hard that it cooks. ;) :D :D :D
As I said, try it gently, and see which you prefer.


Ok! I have tried amp to tops to bass (4ohms), getting a good punchy sound, seems a little too much bass though must be getting the full range on the tops then. I then tried amp to bass to tops (8ohms), getting bass from the bins and the top end frequencies in the tops, I like the punchy sound wired from amp to tops to bins although as you say pete I don't want to take this on a gig and end up cooking myself!....:eek: