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Alchemy
12-04-2009, 09:07 PM
I've been booked for a pool party in late June and the client wants me to project videos and graphics onto a screen. I have found this lycra stretch screen that can be used for back projection, does anyone have any experience of this system?
YouTube - DJScreen.com Lycra Spandex Projection Screen
Excalibur
12-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Personally no, but plenty of folk on here have knowledge of alternative solutions.
ppentertainments
12-04-2009, 09:52 PM
Where is Damian when you want him. He had 'contacts' for these. :D :D :D
flatliners
12-04-2009, 11:03 PM
take a look at a post i put up a few days ago YouTube - HOW TO SET UP MOBILE DJ LIGHTING with a twist
JDB Entertainment
13-04-2009, 12:37 AM
im sure this has been covered before not long ago - try using the search facility! :D
Alchemy
13-04-2009, 08:05 AM
im sure this has been covered before not long ago - try using the search facility! :D
Fair point. Don't know why I didn't try that, doh! :o
Do you still sell them Adam?
visualdjmax
13-04-2009, 09:43 AM
They are really cool and really easy to operate. As you attach them by bungees to either stands or surrounding rigging. Give me a shout if you need any more ideas on the videos and graphics. Cheers MAX
jamesh
13-04-2009, 10:09 AM
Personally i think they look cheap and nasty - a bit like you've got a bed sheet and tried to make it look like a fancy screen...
Alchemy
13-04-2009, 10:09 AM
They are really cool and really easy to operate. As you attach them by bungees to either stands or surrounding rigging. Give me a shout if you need any more ideas on the videos and graphics. Cheers MAX
Thanks Max,
Do you have any suggestions on where to buy?
Alchemy
13-04-2009, 10:11 AM
Personally i think they look cheap and nasty - a bit like you've got a bed sheet and tried to make it look like a fancy screen...
I think exactly the opposite :eek: Compared to a normal rectangular screen they look really cool :cool:
visualdjmax
13-04-2009, 10:17 AM
Personally i think they look cheap and nasty - a bit like you've got a bed sheet and tried to make it look like a fancy screen...
It depends on how you rig then. If you rig them between x2 upright pieces of truss and then internally light the truss this looks pretty cool as almost makes it a feature!!!
visualdjmax
13-04-2009, 10:19 AM
Thanks Max,
Do you have any suggestions on where to buy?
I don't know if they are for sale in the UK, they are a US based company I think that they are called www.djscreens.com or something like that.
SC Events
13-04-2009, 10:22 AM
I don't know if they are for sale in the UK, they are a US based company I think that they are called www.djscreens.com or something like that.
www.djscreen.com
Alchemy
13-04-2009, 10:32 AM
www.djscreen.com
AdamF was selling the same screens for £99 (search for Spandex Projection Screen )
Where are you Adam?
Buy 2m of This stuff (http://www.fabric-world.com/Fabrics-Lycra-c1_24/White-Lycra-p313.html) and get your mother/wife to sew some eyelets on, and you will have a screen AND change out of £20 (Spandex & Lycra are the same thing)
Alchemy
13-04-2009, 02:54 PM
Buy 2m of This stuff (http://www.fabric-world.com/Fabrics-Lycra-c1_24/White-Lycra-p313.html) and get your mother/wife to sew some eyelets on, and you will have a screen AND change out of £20 (Spandex & Lycra are the same thing)
Outstanding!!
Have you tried it?
I know it won't be fireproofed but I think lycra melts rather than burns (correct me if I'm wrong)
I haven't use it as a screen, but I have bought 2 x 3m lengths and split them each into 3 triangular shapes giving me six 3m long triangular shapes which I stretched and rigged in the roof space of a venue with fishing line, then lit them with LED par cans set to scroll through the colours. It looked amazing and only cost £30
JDB Entertainment
13-04-2009, 06:47 PM
I haven't use it as a screen, but I have bought 2 x 3m lengths and split them each into 3 triangular shapes giving me six 3m long triangular shapes which I stretched and rigged in the roof space of a venue with fishing line, then lit them with LED par cans set to scroll through the colours. It looked amazing and only cost £30
any pics of this? sounds a nice idea
DeckstarDeluxe
13-04-2009, 10:45 PM
please please do, Ive contacted so many companies since seeing the video a month or so ago and nobody can do this for me!
Personally i think they look cheap and nasty - a bit like you've got a bed sheet and tried to make it look like a fancy screen...
I agree with you James.
I guess it is function dependant, the bed sheet wouldn't be very well received at a conference.
visualdjmax
13-04-2009, 11:09 PM
That's why you have fastfold screens for conferences and these types of screens for parties so that it doesn't look like a conference!
jamesh
14-04-2009, 12:06 AM
I think exactly the opposite :eek: Compared to a normal rectangular screen they look really cool :cool:
It depends on how you rig then. If you rig them between x2 upright pieces of truss and then internally light the truss this looks pretty cool as almost makes it a feature!!!
Yeah it might look ok with some uplighters and maybe some other fabric shapes with LED lighting around it or behind it... but i'm sorry personally i think how that video shot is (well the picture of the youtube video in the first post)it just looks cheap and nasty no matter what the setting or function it's been put in for.
Perhaps it's just how it's rigged on that goal post stand.
Alchemy
14-04-2009, 07:01 AM
These guys use Lycra in a BIG way.
http://www.rdalland.com/
Adam_F
14-04-2009, 10:13 AM
Fair point. Don't know why I didn't try that, doh! :o
Do you still sell them Adam?
AdamF was selling the same screens for £99 (search for Spandex Projection Screen )
Where are you Adam?
I'm here!
They are no longer distributed in the UK, the exchange rate was too poor to warrant bringing in a fair quantity of them.
jamesh
14-04-2009, 10:16 AM
These guys use Lycra in a BIG way.
http://www.rdalland.com/
See now every photo there of it's use looks spot on... very nice indeed - neat professional and looks the part!
any pics of this? sounds a nice idea
Sorry I don't have any photos, I did take some with my mobile phone, but they were rubbish. The next time I get a job where I can use them, I'll take a video and post it.The big problem is finding suitable fixing points to tie the suspending lines to, not every venue has suitable points and they wouldn't take too kindly to screwing eyelets into their walls. The other problem is the height, you need them well out of reach of the guests, and that causes access problems if the venue doesn't have suitable access equipment.
visualdjmax
14-04-2009, 10:36 AM
Sorry I don't have any photos, I did take some with my mobile phone, but they were rubbish. The next time I get a job where I can use them, I'll take a video and post it.The big problem is finding suitable fixing points to tie the suspending lines to, not every venue has suitable points and they wouldn't take too kindly to screwing eyelets into their walls. The other problem is the height, you need them well out of reach of the guests, and that causes access problems if the venue doesn't have suitable access equipment.
Good point. I think this is why you would always need to do your own rigging for them!
Vectis
14-04-2009, 10:41 AM
I've got a bunch of home-made ones of different sizes - I used the stuff linked to earlier in this thread but bought from eBay for about £5 per linear metre and eyelets from a camping shop - about 1" diameter.
I generally use them for rear projection strapped across those cheapie Maplins 3 metre gantries (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=17792) as these can be set to 3m width or 1.5m width and height adjustable up to about 3m as well. These are great for hanging starcloths off too.
Some venues with stages often have curtain rails and suitable anchor points on the floor which work perfectly with bungee cords and on a couple of occasions I've even strung a cloth across the front of my regular Ultimax deckstand and moved the console to a table sideways on.
Extremely versatile, they look great and work very well with rear projection or as others have suggested, just to hide stuff in which case a bit of LED uplighting looks cool too.
Alchemy
15-04-2009, 02:30 PM
I just bought 2 meters of white Spandex to try out. It cost me under 6€ a meter! Is it really the same fabric used on the stretchy screen from DJscreen.com? If it is I may go into manufacturing!!:) The only difference I can see is the flame retardant treatment, but I found this on the bay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fire-%26-Flame-Retardant-Liquid-Spray-500ml-Washable_W0QQitemZ200328860693QQcmdZViewItem
SC Events
15-04-2009, 02:47 PM
If you can get one that will "wash-in" it would be a lot better.
By Wash-in, I mean put the liquid in the washer machine with the lycra stuff. It gets adsorbed better (usually) and makes sure that the whole piece of material is covered.
............well that's how it works with tents and waterproof clothes anyway! :D
I just bought 2 meters of white Spandex to try out. It cost me under 6€ a meter! Is it really the same fabric used on the stretchy screen from DJscreen.com? If it is I may go into manufacturing!!:) The only difference I can see is the flame retardant treatment, but I found this on the bay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fire-%26-Flame-Retardant-Liquid-Spray-500ml-Washable_W0QQitemZ200328860693QQcmdZViewItem
Provided you've bought 4 way stretch as opposed to 2 way stretch material it's the same basic stuff. There are differences in denier, (weight) and in composition ie cotton spandex, polyester spandex, satin spandex, spandex is just the brand name of the stretchable thread knitted into the fabric
Alchemy
15-04-2009, 04:01 PM
Provided you've bought 4 way stretch as opposed to 2 way stretch material it's the same basic stuff. There are differences in denier, (weight) and in composition ie cotton spandex, polyester spandex, satin spandex, spandex is just the brand name of the stretchable thread knitted into the fabric
Yup, I bought the 4 way. :D but which would be best out of the cotton, polyester and satin Spandex?
Yup, I bought the 4 way. :D but which would be best out of the cotton, polyester and satin Spandex?
I don't really know to be honest, if you are planning to use it as a front projection screen I would choose satin myself, if rear projection I would go for something less reflective and a lightweight denier, since the light need to pass through it
visualdjmax
23-04-2009, 01:20 PM
I have just been sent a mail from these guys. It seems that they have a cheaper version of the DJ Screen
www.StretchyScreens.com
Cheers MAX
Alchemy
23-04-2009, 04:10 PM
Not as cheap as 12€ though. The ordinary Spandex works brilliantly as a back projection screen. I'm going to make 2 or 3 in different sizes for projecting and backlighting, imo there is no point in paying 150$ for something you can do yourself. By the way did you notice that the stretchyscreens aren't fireproofed?
visualdjmax
23-04-2009, 04:17 PM
Not as cheap as 12€ though. The ordinary Spandex works brilliantly as a back projection screen. I'm going to make 2 or 3 in different sizes for projecting and backlighting, imo there is no point in paying 150$ for something you can do yourself. By the way did you notice that the stretchyscreens aren't fireproofed?
Argh I didn't. It would be easy enough to spray them with flamebar though! It would be cool if you could get some pics of your screens etc in action (so to speak!) Cheers MAX
Alchemy
23-04-2009, 04:28 PM
The gig I'm going to use them on isn't until June but I'm going to set up a screen at a local bar in a couple of weeks to show a rugby match so I'll take some photo's then.
The ordinary Spandex works brilliantly as a back projection screen. I'm going to make 2 or 3 in different sizes for projecting and backlighting.
A bit of a result then :thumbs_up:
Alchemy
23-04-2009, 04:52 PM
A bit of a result then :thumbs_up:
Yup, thanks Pete, a great suggestion, it not only saves loads of money it gives the massive flexibility of being able to make custom sized screens. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
visualdjmax
23-04-2009, 07:09 PM
The gig I'm going to use them on isn't until June but I'm going to set up a screen at a local bar in a couple of weeks to show a rugby match so I'll take some photo's then.
Cool look forward to it. Cheers MAX
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