View Full Version : out of intrest :) who uses personal products for business use i.e phones and internet
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 11:48 AM
Hello,
So out of intrest who uses personal mobile phones for their business and who has dedicated business ones.
who uses personal broadband package and who uses a business one
Just wondering out of intrest.
I personaly use:
Dedicated VOIP Lines - For Business
Business Broadband Connection
Business mobile phone tarriff
Just with everybody marketing on proffesional images etc etc, And the like, If i rung a firm and someone answered and said hang on ill get him or a kid picked up id soon end the call
Solitaire Events Ltd
01-05-2009, 12:36 PM
So how many firms just have VOIP lines then and not landlines?
And what difference does having a business mobile and a business broadband connection make?
rob1963
01-05-2009, 12:45 PM
Hello,
So out of intrest who uses personal mobile phones for their business and who has dedicated business ones.
who uses personal broadband package and who uses a business one
Just wondering out of intrest.
I personaly use:
Dedicated VOIP Lines - For Business
Business Broadband Connection
Business mobile phone tarriff
Just with everybody marketing on proffesional images etc etc, And the like, If i rung a firm and someone answered and said hang on ill get him or a kid picked up id soon end the call
I have a home broadband connection which I also use for my business, and one landline and mobile, both of which are used for personal AND business purposes.
I see doubling up with a second mobile & landline for business purposes as completely unnecessary and a total waste of money...especially as virtually all clients email me rather than phone me anyway.
As for wanting to create a professional image, how will clients know if my landline & mobile are only used for business purposes (especially as I live alone, so the phone will always be answered by myself and there will never be any screaming kids in the background)?
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 12:45 PM
So how many firms just have VOIP lines then and not landlines?
And what difference does having a business mobile and a business broadband connection make?
As 99% of consumer packages have a clause in the t&c's saying not to use for business, That is broadband
Mobile better rates and easier call management when you issue them out to staff
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 12:46 PM
I have a home broadband connection which I also use for my business, and one landline and mobile, both of which are used for personal AND business purposes.
I see doubling up with a second mobile & landline for business purposes as completely unnecessary and a total waste of money...especially as virtually all clients email me rather than phone me anyway.
As for wanting to create a professional image, how will clients know if my landline & mobile are only used for business purposes (especially as I live alone, so the phone will always be answered by myself and there will never be any screaming kids in the background)?
In your case rob i see your point, If you live alone and only ever you answering, But are you breaking your broadband t&c's ?
rob1963
01-05-2009, 12:47 PM
But are you breaking your broadband t&c's ?
To be honest, I haven't got a clue, as I have no idea what my broadband terms & conditions are!
:shrug:
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 12:50 PM
To be honest, I haven't got a clue, as I have no idea what my broadband terms & conditions are!
:shrug:
:) Just wondered how many of you guys would know this, But go on about pro dub pat pli and cowboys, See my drift ?
rob1963
01-05-2009, 12:57 PM
I get your drift.
To be honest, I think my broadband location could be described as residential OR business, as it's installed at a residential address...although part of one room is used for business purposes.
:shrug:
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 12:59 PM
I get your drift.
To be honest, I think my broadband location could be described as residential OR business, as it's installed at a residential address...although part of one room is used for business purposes.
:shrug:
2. Using Sky Broadband
(a) Sky Broadband is for private use by you and members of your household only. It must not be used for any commercial or business purpose.
this is an example of skys t&c's
This just out of intrest to see how many people are and the general feel about this,
rob1963
01-05-2009, 01:00 PM
Interesting.
I wonder what the situation is with landline & mobile phones.
:shrug:
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 01:03 PM
Interesting.
I wonder what the situation is with landline & mobile phones.
:shrug:
landlines not so much of t&c's from when i looked into them all back in december for a project,
The main reason for that is kids / missus answering phone etc,
But your pretty sound on that rob
Solitaire Events Ltd
01-05-2009, 01:09 PM
2. Using Sky Broadband
(a) Sky Broadband is for private use by you and members of your household only. It must not be used for any commercial or business purpose.
this is an example of skys t&c's
This just out of intrest to see how many people are and the general feel about this,
I have Sky broadband as a 'backup' and had a massive row with them as they said I couldn't have it as it was going on a business line.
To cut a long story short, they are talking rubbish and it's only people that run internet based businesses they are worried about.
And yes, I have the free Sky BB, but not for main use.
What do you class business use as? Is browsing this forum business use? Is doing your banking business use? Is buying disco gear business use?
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 01:10 PM
I have Sky broadband as a 'backup' and had a massive row with them as they said I couldn't have it as it was going on a business line.
To cut a long story short, they are talking rubbish and it's only people that run internet based businesses they are worried about.
And yes, I have the free Sky BB, but not for main use.
What do you class business use as? Is browsing this forum business use? Is doing your banking business use? Is buying disco gear business use?
Well how do we define it that is the point ?
Solitaire Events Ltd
01-05-2009, 01:11 PM
Mobile better rates and easier call management when you issue them out to staff
Do you have staff then?
PropellerHeadCase
01-05-2009, 01:21 PM
Worth noting, however, that in the case of smal business HMRC, for example, contemplates the use of personal items such as car, phone, etc. used in part for business - implying that if not the norm certainly extremely common and accepted.
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 02:07 PM
Do you have staff then?
Have 5 phones on the tarriff, And equipment is provided to them be it when on call or working yes
Solitaire Events Ltd
01-05-2009, 02:12 PM
I thought you worked for an install company?
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 02:15 PM
I thought you worked for an install company?
We do installs yes, and mobiles
Shakermaker Promotions
01-05-2009, 02:24 PM
I have my broadband with BT and my landline too and I use them for Business and Pleasure. When I am working from home most of the day then the house is more or less my office. I put my broadband and landline bills through the books as do I my mobile too.
And what difference does... a business broadband connection make?
Daz, this is what I recall from when we relocated offices years ago, so may or may not still be how BT work.
The difference is in the "contention ratio". In our case, we have a 1MB/sec broadband service, the bandwidth which may be shared with up to 4 other businesses back to the exchange.
With the domestic broadband service, the contention ratio was a 1:20 share (i.e. 4 times more users)
In reality, I don't know how much this matters, I guess if 4 others were sending files concurrently, it may take a minute or so longer to send or receive a large powerpoint file, which IMHO isn't the end of the world!
Tony
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 02:53 PM
Also an SLA - Service Level Agreeement,
Compensation for loss of business
Priority tech support
Managed routers - With some isps
Solitaire Events Ltd
01-05-2009, 03:19 PM
We do installs yes, and mobiles
Why would you be on call then? Do you have backup DJs?
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 03:24 PM
Why would you be on call then? Do you have backup DJs?
incase someone fails to turn up,
equipment failuire
the odd client enquiry
also point of contact for residencys
Solitaire Events Ltd
01-05-2009, 03:26 PM
And you pay for 5 phones? Wow, you must have a big business.
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 03:30 PM
And you pay for 5 phones? Wow, you must have a big business.
Have a good deal with vodafone as worked for them in the past, so have managed to retain a good deal.
Wouldnt say its a big business darren, I would say your bigger in the disco side of things to be honest
Kernow
01-05-2009, 05:00 PM
And out of interest Darren how come you have contact details and a website that doesn't simply direct to a google search ?;)
Five phones, and no listed numbers for any of them, no email accepted, wow
kj you're the business :(
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 05:02 PM
And out of interest Darren how come you have contact details and a website that doesn't simply direct to a google search ?;)
Five phones, and no listed numbers for any of them, no email accepted, wow
kj you're the business :(
The company details were removed due to abuse originating from this site, What is i would want to speak to you about anyway ?, Your attitude is hardly appealing to me ?
Have to say why is people cant handle things on here, And have to jump on abusing people realy, At the end of the day myself and darren where having a discussion regarding items, I happily was disussing with him, But some of you guys claim your proffesional i realy do wonder at times
What is i would want to speak to you about anyway ?, Your attitude is hardly appealing to me ?
The return of Cliffy's spurious question mark :eek:
Dynamic Entertainment
01-05-2009, 05:07 PM
Whilst were on the subject, wasnt there a Forum Rules update recently where you have to have youyr real name and business name listed? Im guessing that your not called N/A?
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 05:08 PM
Whilst were on the subject, wasnt there a Forum Rules update recently where you have to have youyr real name and business name listed? Im guessing that your not called N/A?
oooo whats gona happen the mdd police gona arrest and charge me ?, I think some of you guys realy need a wake up call, Its a forum to help each other out network share ideas, Not try get one over on each other all the time jesus, If you feel the need to ban and delete me darren / mod'r us then do so
Shakermaker Promotions
01-05-2009, 05:09 PM
Excuse me? Where did that come from?
I hope that you aren't implying that I don't go about my business in an unprofessional manner, blimey..far from it.
You can have as many phones as you like, it's up to you but please check your posts before you click on the 'post reply' button as I found the above post from you quite a mission to read.
Shaun
01-05-2009, 05:10 PM
oooo whats gona happen the mdd police gona arrest and charge me ?
Don't be silly. A ban from the forum is usually enough.
Jake, your posts are very difficult to understand. The Queen's English is the preferred language of this forum, any chance of using it?
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 05:12 PM
Excuse me? Where did that come from?
I hope that you aren't implying that I don't go about my business in an unprofessional manner, blimey..far from it.
You can have as many phones as you like, it's up to you but please check your posts before you click on the 'post reply' button as I found the above post from you quite a mission to read.
I have no issues with yourself
Shakermaker Promotions
01-05-2009, 05:16 PM
That's fair enough but you obviously have a problem with some people on here and as the forum is usually a good humoured place to be, your posts seem to stand out and come across as...well, aggressive. Nothing wrong with aggression if used in the right way at the right time (ie...controlled) but on a forum? I don't think it works and goading the mods aswell isn't a great idea either is it.
kjdiscos
01-05-2009, 05:18 PM
That's fair enough but you obviously have a problem with some people on here and as the forum is usually a good humoured place to be, your posts seem to stand out and come across as...well, aggressive. Nothing wrong with aggression if used in the right way at the right time (ie...controlled) but on a forum? I don't think it works and goading the mods aswell isn't a great idea either is it.
am not agressive sir :), I control my anger, However i find some people on the forum to swagger about as it there the dons of this world, When realy all this is words on a screen
Jake, your posts are very difficult to understand. The Queen's English is the preferred language of this forum, any chance of using it?
I will note that sir :)
one final post fairwell to all the sound people,
shakermaker
a1dl
excalibur
penmare
jaydee drinker
rowleys mobile entertainment
and a few others :)
seya guys :)
Shakermaker Promotions
01-05-2009, 05:22 PM
am not agressive sir :), I control my anger, However i find some people on the forum to swagger about as it there the dons of this world, When realy all this is words on a screen
Not being funny but if they are just words on a screen then isn't it better for the reader to be able to read and understand those words easily?
Also, "words on a screen" they maybe BUT...when all you have is words on a screen and you have never actually met the person writing them...well, it would be very easy to get the wrong idea of the poster...know what I mean? ;)
Dynamic Entertainment
01-05-2009, 05:23 PM
oooo whats gona happen the mdd police gona arrest and charge me ?, I think some of you guys realy need a wake up call, Its a forum to help each other out network share ideas, Not try get one over on each other all the time jesus, If you feel the need to ban and delete me darren / mod'r us then do so
Your the one that took it off the forum, remember!
And just for the record, ive had tons of useful information and help off people i wouldnt know from adam if i met them in the street. Its just a pain in the backside sifting through loads of dribble that occasionally crops up (this post does count as such dribble before you get on about it)!
PS, its a shame your post regarding Shaun has been removed. It just goes to show your nature. Shaun is a top bloke imo, that done me a massive favour!
Shaun
01-05-2009, 05:33 PM
seya guys :)
I tried to offer the olive branch of a second chance a few days ago. I didn't expect the branch to hit me in the face so quick.
I've deleted your earlier comment to me, and placed you in the Sib Bin to monitor your silliness. You're welcome to continue here at the forum, but only if you abide by rules like the rest of us. :)
....Seems to be one of those days, today. :) :)
Bouncy Dancefloor
01-05-2009, 05:34 PM
hes left? no real loss if im honest
it all seems to be willy waving without any real proof
Kernow
01-05-2009, 05:37 PM
hes left? no real loss if im honest
it all seems to be willy waving without any real proof
Deja Vu ???? ;)
Apologies to all that I'm not a 'sound bloke' :o
:D
Dynamic Entertainment
01-05-2009, 05:43 PM
Deja Vu ???? ;)
Apologies to all that I'm not a 'sound bloke' :o
:D
Your a blooming good lighting jock though :D
rob1963
01-05-2009, 05:44 PM
Deja Vu ???? ;)
Apologies to all that I'm not a 'sound bloke' :o
:D
one final post fairwell to all the sound people,
shakermaker
a1dl
excalibur
penmare
jaydee drinker
rowleys mobile entertainment
and a few others :)
Don't worry, Kernow.
I've just checked the list & discovered that I'm not a sound person either.
:cry:
Dynamic Entertainment
01-05-2009, 05:45 PM
Don't worry, Kernow.
I've just checked the list & discovered that I'm not a sound person either.
:cry:
Thats understandable though Rob :D:zip: :D ;)
The heavens are falling...im of the list too.......
Kernow
01-05-2009, 05:51 PM
Thats understandable though Rob :D:zip: :D ;)
The heavens are falling...im of the list too.......
Sure you're not among the 'Others' ?? ;)
Dynamic Entertainment
01-05-2009, 05:52 PM
Sure you're not among the 'Others' ?? ;)
Not from the phone call i recieved off him last week. And he talked about taking things too far.... ;)
PropellerHeadCase
01-05-2009, 06:23 PM
Woo-hoo - I'm an 'other'!
Corabar Steve
01-05-2009, 06:26 PM
I'm guessing I'm not :sj:
:ontopic:
andyw
01-05-2009, 07:19 PM
....Seems to be one of those days, today. :) :)
welcome to the new moderators,not too late to change your mind guys:bang:
makes me laugh why can't people just learn to except other people have different opinions,and learn to agree to disagree instead of throwing toys out of the pram,secound thought if they did there would be no need for moderators then what would they do,so carry on throwing toys out of prams and keep a mod employed:)
DJMaxG
07-05-2009, 10:10 PM
I have Sky broadband as a 'backup' and had a massive row with them as they said I couldn't have it as it was going on a business line.
To cut a long story short, they are talking rubbish and it's only people that run internet based businesses they are worried about.
And yes, I have the free Sky BB, but not for main use.
What do you class business use as? Is browsing this forum business use? Is doing your banking business use? Is buying disco gear business use?
You've taken the words straight out of my mouth there! :D
What is business use?
Is checking your company emails classed as business use, Is buying gear online. The home service providers don't want to be used for making money out of, They want their cut out of it.
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